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I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Check out the post entitled UK – ECA FAQ in uk.rec.bodybuilding. Stephen Mulholland – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

  Try "Mormon Tea"

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UK ECA – FAQ  (Version 2 – David Turner 1999) Overview This FAQ is aimed at providing bodybuilders in the UK with additional information needed to obtain and successfully use the ECA stack.  This FAQ is not intended to give in depth information, but act as a UK biased extension to all the other ECA info that is in circulation.  The technical detail in this FAQ has intensionally been kept to a minimum to make the content accessable to all. What does ECA stand for? ECA stands for Ephedrine Hydrochloride (ephedrine), Caffeine and Aspirin.  They are the three ingredients that make up the stack. What the stack can do? Stacking the above ingredients and taking them in doses throughout the day has been shown to help increase fat loss by stimulating your body’s metabolism.  (Assuming that you are following a sensible calorie controlled diet.)  Additionally, the ECA stack is thought to have anti-catabolic properties, so you lose less muscle while dieting. Who shouldn’t take the stack? The ECA stack acts as a powerful stimulant that can raise your blood pressure and slightly alter the ratio of good / bad cholesteral in the blood.  Therefore anyone with high blood pressure or heart problems should not take the stack. Where can I get the stack? In the UK ephedrine is a prescription drug.  Therefore it is very difficult to obtain it by itself.  Luckily, a product called Do-Do Chesteze contains Ephedrine and is freely available from most chemists in the UK.  Chesteze comes in packets of 12 and 36 tablets. Caffeine can also be obtained from most chemists in a product called Pro-Plus.  This is available in packets of 24, 48 and 96 tablets. Aspirin is easiest of all to obtain as it is freely available in it’s generic form from all chemists. What if the chemist asks me funny questions? The chemist may ask you questions such as: – Have you taken this before? – Are you on any other medications? – What are your reasons for buying this? The best things to say in reply are: – yes – no – to help my breathing as my chest is a bit tight If you still have problems then you could try going to a small independent chemist who is more likely to serve you without question. It is also an idea to spread your purchases over a few shopping visits to reduce any suspicion. What dosages should I take? The ideal ratio for the ECA stack is 10:1 caffeine to ephedrine.  Many sources suggest that the ideal dosage is 25mg ephedrine, 250mg caffeine and 80-300mg aspirin. More specifically, you could take 1 Chesteze, 3-4 Pro-plus and half a full dose aspirin.  This gives you 18.3 mg ephedrine,  180mg caffeine, 150mg aspirin.  Some people take double the dosage of Chesteze and Pro-plus, but this is an individual thing so I would start at this lower dosage and see how it effects you. How often? The above dosage should be taken 3 times a day with at least 3 hours in between.  It is also recommended that your last dose should be before 6:00 pm, or you may have problems getting to sleep. Some people recommend only taking the stack 5 days a week with 2 days off to allow your body a small break from the effects.  Others stay on it 7 days a week.  Again this is a personal thing so you may want to experiment. Along the same lines, some people will use the stack for weeks without stopping.  Other’s will cycle the doses i.e. 2 weeks on then a week off etc.  It is recommended that 4 weeks would be about the maximum that you should stay on the stack without a break of at least a week.  The basic rational is that your body will become used to the ECA stack stimulation and the effects will wear off.  By taking a break, it is possible for your body to reap better rewards when you go back on the stack. The wired up feeling is likely to diminish within 1-2 weeks of starting the stack.  Evidence shows that the fat burning properties of the stack still continue well after that time, so do not assume that an immediate break is needed. What is this Theophylline ingredient in Chesteze? Theophylline is a kind of sister drug to caffeine. (i.e. it is a member of the same family of drugs.)  They are both stimulants and work in very similar ways.  Theophylline does stimulate the heart muscle tissue to a greater extent than caffeine, but is safe in doses of under 1000 mg a day. Some say that since theophylline is very like caffeine, you can reduce the dosage of caffeine in the stack by 100mg.  Again experiment. Conclusion The ECA has been used by thousands of people to help them lose weight. It has been shown to be safe and effective and not have any noticable side-effects.  Before trying the stack I strongly recommend that you read the excellent article by Sandeep De on his web site.  See below for the address. Additional Resources: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4039/eca.htm – Sandeep De British Medical Encyclopedia Disclaimer: Note: This information is for educational purposes only. I am not responsible for any effects that you may or may not incur while utilizing the ephedrine / caffeine / aspirin stack. Use at your own risk. As with all things, consult your doctor before utilizing these supplements.

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 Try "Mormon Tea"

That is a tea that as far as I know is only found in Germany. It contains MaHuang which is the herbal equivalent of ephedrine. As the poster is from the UK I believe that he will not be able to get that tea In Strength and Health Allan

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US. Amanda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Also schrieb William Rowan: Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

LOL LOL LOL LOL I guess you’d better tell the makers of bronk-aid. And all those truck stops selling Mini Thins. Good Lord, I’m a criminal! Oh, my.  Thanks for the laugh.  That oughta be good for some aerobic exercise. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Amanda Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you

– The differential of hi over ho is ho di hi minus hi d ho ho over ho ho.    

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications. It is also illegal to import it into the US.

It most certainly is not "illegal".  Bulk ephedrine and bulk pseudo- ephedrine are "watched" compounds (sale of which alerts the DEA), but they’re components of a variety of OTC nostrums which are perfectly legal to sell and purchase in most US states. The FDA has been trying to put limits on the amount of ephedrine per dose in OTC preparations.  I don’t know where that stands. However, this doesn’t criminalize the use of the drug (unless you’re trying to synthesize methamphetamine). — Steve Dyer

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You are an idiot. K in Cali

:Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of :the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I :would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it :into the US. : :Amanda :

: : Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s : illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? : If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to : jail for you? : : Just a few questions. :

: : I am going to be straight and just ask outright : : ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? : or a decent ECA product that works? : : i am willing to pay whatever the cost : : i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it : : please will someone help me : : please e mail directly back to me : : Thank you : : — : My ICQ-34124615 : :

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

A few states in the US have prohibited ephedrine without prescription. In most states of the US it is freely available over the counter in asthma remedies like Primatene and Bronk-Aid.  It is merely not sold over the counter as ephedrine alone, but combined with guaifenesin. Allegedly the guaifenesin renders it useless for making speed. Texas had a debate last summer regarding banning ephedrine.  The proposal was shot down, but they intended to grandfather the brand-name asthma remedies, and only outlaw the diet preparations and Mini-Thins. Banning the Mini-Thins (which are now called Two-Way tablets) while allowing the Primatene was a really dumb idea, as they contain the exact same active ingredients per dose, and have almost identical text on the label as an asthma treatment as the Primatene label.  They merely have a reputation for being used by truckers to stay awake. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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Right! Like METH is illegal. You sure are dub!

:Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of :the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I :would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it :into the US. : :Amanda — don’t read alt.foot.fat-free

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I believe it’s only illegal in certain states. I know Florida, where I live, passed a law a year or two ago which prohibits its sale within the state. At the time our local newspaper had a list of several other states where it’s forbidden. I can’t imagine why several states would have laws against it if it were against the law to sell it in the entire country. Nadine – Atkid since 11/30/98 197/177/140 You’re invited to visit Our Little Corner of the Internet http://www.ourlittlecorner.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

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Stop by your local 7-11 and ask Mohammed for the Mini thins or something like that.  The makers of the ephedrine tabs have included Guafenisen  (sp?) in them and sell them as a decongestant like over the counter med.  Guaf. is almost impossible to separate from the Ephed. to the normal crank head.  It takes a more powerful solvent to separate and may interfere with the reduction process of making meth.  Remember the only difference between Ephed. and Meth is the Oxygen atom on the Carbon ring extension is replaced by a hydrogen in a very simple Fedal-Crafts reaction with stuff you can by at Home Depot if you have 24 hours to kill and if you are caught 10 years. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW

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What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

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Also schrieb Kelley: What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

Maybe in your Wal-Mart, but in mine they’ve restricted the sales of ephedrine-containing cold nostrums. All you can get today is pseudoephedrine, which does fsck all as a component of an ECA stack. — Vs lbh pna ernq guvf lbh ernyyl bhtug gb trg bhg zber            

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Maybe in your Wal-Mart, but in mine they’ve restricted the sales of ephedrine-containing cold nostrums.

The local Costco pharmacy department limits the sale of pseudoephedrine preparations to two per customer.  I haven’t noticed restrictions elsewhere. All you can get today is pseudoephedrine, which does fsck all as a component of an ECA stack.

However, it’s a perfectly good precursor to kitchen-lab methamphetamine. :-) l-ephedrine and d-pseudoephedrine both have the desired chirality to be reduced to d-methamphetamine. — Steve Dyer

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IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW

  Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

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What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

  Ephedrine was discovered in 1887 by the Oriental biochemist Nagi. Given the fact that your body’s hormones and protein utilization is high, many athletes find it important to insure themselves peak workouts. Ephedrine s one of the few proven metabolic optimizes that help that occur. It first received attention in America in 1924 when medical scientists Carl Schmidt and K.K. Chen found it to have very powerful stimulating effects on patients. With respect to it’s origin, the best source of L-Ephedrine is the Ephedra Equisetina (better known as Ma Huang) plant that grows in China and India. The less effective forms of ephedrine generally comes from less expensive plant sources such as Ephedra Nevadensis which grows in the western states.  Ephedrine is the strongest safe stimulant known today. It will allow athletes to train longer and harder, thereby assisting them in making greater gains.

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 Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

ROFLMAO

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Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under. Be very careful if you do find some – this stuff has caused deaths via heart problems. Krista – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US. Amanda Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under. Be very careful if you do find some – this stuff has caused deaths via heart problems.

Granted, these figures are from memory, and not official, but I looked this up a few months ago.  To the best of my memory, there are less than 30 total deaths attributable to ephedrine, and all but 2 of them were attributed to overdosing or taking it with one of the health conditions where its use is contraindicated. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW  Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

ROFLMAO I love this shit hahahaha John

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Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

This was so funny that it even  made reading through all the warm and fuzzy "You’re an idiot" postings worthwhile! Wendy

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Wasn’t  Primatene what killed Nikki Taylor’s younger sister? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under. Be very careful if you do find some – this stuff has caused deaths via heart problems. Granted, these figures are from memory, and not official, but I looked this up a few months ago.  To the best of my memory, there are less than 30 total deaths attributable to ephedrine, and all but 2 of them were attributed to overdosing or taking it with one of the health conditions where its use is contraindicated. —  "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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can anyone get this for me?

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US. Amanda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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 Try "Mormon Tea"

That is a tea that as far as I know is only found in Germany. It contains MaHuang which is the herbal equivalent of ephedrine. As the poster is from the UK I believe that he will not be able to get that tea In Strength and Health Allan

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Also schrieb William Rowan: Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

LOL LOL LOL LOL I guess you’d better tell the makers of bronk-aid. And all those truck stops selling Mini Thins. Good Lord, I’m a criminal! Oh, my.  Thanks for the laugh.  That oughta be good for some aerobic exercise. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Amanda Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you

– The differential of hi over ho is ho di hi minus hi d ho ho over ho ho.    

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications. It is also illegal to import it into the US.

It most certainly is not "illegal".  Bulk ephedrine and bulk pseudo- ephedrine are "watched" compounds (sale of which alerts the DEA), but they’re components of a variety of OTC nostrums which are perfectly legal to sell and purchase in most US states. The FDA has been trying to put limits on the amount of ephedrine per dose in OTC preparations.  I don’t know where that stands. However, this doesn’t criminalize the use of the drug (unless you’re trying to synthesize methamphetamine). — Steve Dyer

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You are an idiot. K in Cali

:Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of :the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I :would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it :into the US. : :Amanda :

: : Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s : illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? : If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to : jail for you? : : Just a few questions. :

: : I am going to be straight and just ask outright : : ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? : or a decent ECA product that works? : : i am willing to pay whatever the cost : : i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it : : please will someone help me : : please e mail directly back to me : : Thank you : : — : My ICQ-34124615 : :

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UK ECA – FAQ  (Version 2 – David Turner 1999) Overview This FAQ is aimed at providing bodybuilders in the UK with additional information needed to obtain and successfully use the ECA stack.  This FAQ is not intended to give in depth information, but act as a UK biased extension to all the other ECA info that is in circulation.  The technical detail in this FAQ has intensionally been kept to a minimum to make the content accessable to all. What does ECA stand for? ECA stands for Ephedrine Hydrochloride (ephedrine), Caffeine and Aspirin.  They are the three ingredients that make up the stack. What the stack can do? Stacking the above ingredients and taking them in doses throughout the day has been shown to help increase fat loss by stimulating your body’s metabolism.  (Assuming that you are following a sensible calorie controlled diet.)  Additionally, the ECA stack is thought to have anti-catabolic properties, so you lose less muscle while dieting. Who shouldn’t take the stack? The ECA stack acts as a powerful stimulant that can raise your blood pressure and slightly alter the ratio of good / bad cholesteral in the blood.  Therefore anyone with high blood pressure or heart problems should not take the stack. Where can I get the stack? In the UK ephedrine is a prescription drug.  Therefore it is very difficult to obtain it by itself.  Luckily, a product called Do-Do Chesteze contains Ephedrine and is freely available from most chemists in the UK.  Chesteze comes in packets of 12 and 36 tablets. Caffeine can also be obtained from most chemists in a product called Pro-Plus.  This is available in packets of 24, 48 and 96 tablets. Aspirin is easiest of all to obtain as it is freely available in it’s generic form from all chemists. What if the chemist asks me funny questions? The chemist may ask you questions such as: – Have you taken this before? – Are you on any other medications? – What are your reasons for buying this? The best things to say in reply are: – yes – no – to help my breathing as my chest is a bit tight If you still have problems then you could try going to a small independent chemist who is more likely to serve you without question. It is also an idea to spread your purchases over a few shopping visits to reduce any suspicion. What dosages should I take? The ideal ratio for the ECA stack is 10:1 caffeine to ephedrine.  Many sources suggest that the ideal dosage is 25mg ephedrine, 250mg caffeine and 80-300mg aspirin. More specifically, you could take 1 Chesteze, 3-4 Pro-plus and half a full dose aspirin.  This gives you 18.3 mg ephedrine,  180mg caffeine, 150mg aspirin.  Some people take double the dosage of Chesteze and Pro-plus, but this is an individual thing so I would start at this lower dosage and see how it effects you. How often? The above dosage should be taken 3 times a day with at least 3 hours in between.  It is also recommended that your last dose should be before 6:00 pm, or you may have problems getting to sleep. Some people recommend only taking the stack 5 days a week with 2 days off to allow your body a small break from the effects.  Others stay on it 7 days a week.  Again this is a personal thing so you may want to experiment. Along the same lines, some people will use the stack for weeks without stopping.  Other’s will cycle the doses i.e. 2 weeks on then a week off etc.  It is recommended that 4 weeks would be about the maximum that you should stay on the stack without a break of at least a week.  The basic rational is that your body will become used to the ECA stack stimulation and the effects will wear off.  By taking a break, it is possible for your body to reap better rewards when you go back on the stack. The wired up feeling is likely to diminish within 1-2 weeks of starting the stack.  Evidence shows that the fat burning properties of the stack still continue well after that time, so do not assume that an immediate break is needed. What is this Theophylline ingredient in Chesteze? Theophylline is a kind of sister drug to caffeine. (i.e. it is a member of the same family of drugs.)  They are both stimulants and work in very similar ways.  Theophylline does stimulate the heart muscle tissue to a greater extent than caffeine, but is safe in doses of under 1000 mg a day. Some say that since theophylline is very like caffeine, you can reduce the dosage of caffeine in the stack by 100mg.  Again experiment. Conclusion The ECA has been used by thousands of people to help them lose weight. It has been shown to be safe and effective and not have any noticable side-effects.  Before trying the stack I strongly recommend that you read the excellent article by Sandeep De on his web site.  See below for the address. Additional Resources: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4039/eca.htm – Sandeep De British Medical Encyclopedia Disclaimer: Note: This information is for educational purposes only. I am not responsible for any effects that you may or may not incur while utilizing the ephedrine / caffeine / aspirin stack. Use at your own risk. As with all things, consult your doctor before utilizing these supplements.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

  Try "Mormon Tea"

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Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Check out the post entitled UK – ECA FAQ in uk.rec.bodybuilding. Stephen Mulholland – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Also schrieb Kelley: What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

Maybe in your Wal-Mart, but in mine they’ve restricted the sales of ephedrine-containing cold nostrums. All you can get today is pseudoephedrine, which does fsck all as a component of an ECA stack. — Vs lbh pna ernq guvf lbh ernyyl bhtug gb trg bhg zber            

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Maybe in your Wal-Mart, but in mine they’ve restricted the sales of ephedrine-containing cold nostrums.

The local Costco pharmacy department limits the sale of pseudoephedrine preparations to two per customer.  I haven’t noticed restrictions elsewhere. All you can get today is pseudoephedrine, which does fsck all as a component of an ECA stack.

However, it’s a perfectly good precursor to kitchen-lab methamphetamine. :-) l-ephedrine and d-pseudoephedrine both have the desired chirality to be reduced to d-methamphetamine. — Steve Dyer

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IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW

  Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

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What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

  Ephedrine was discovered in 1887 by the Oriental biochemist Nagi. Given the fact that your body’s hormones and protein utilization is high, many athletes find it important to insure themselves peak workouts. Ephedrine s one of the few proven metabolic optimizes that help that occur. It first received attention in America in 1924 when medical scientists Carl Schmidt and K.K. Chen found it to have very powerful stimulating effects on patients. With respect to it’s origin, the best source of L-Ephedrine is the Ephedra Equisetina (better known as Ma Huang) plant that grows in China and India. The less effective forms of ephedrine generally comes from less expensive plant sources such as Ephedra Nevadensis which grows in the western states.  Ephedrine is the strongest safe stimulant known today. It will allow athletes to train longer and harder, thereby assisting them in making greater gains.

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 Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

ROFLMAO

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Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under. Be very careful if you do find some – this stuff has caused deaths via heart problems. Krista – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US. Amanda Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

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Stop by your local 7-11 and ask Mohammed for the Mini thins or something like that.  The makers of the ephedrine tabs have included Guafenisen  (sp?) in them and sell them as a decongestant like over the counter med.  Guaf. is almost impossible to separate from the Ephed. to the normal crank head.  It takes a more powerful solvent to separate and may interfere with the reduction process of making meth.  Remember the only difference between Ephed. and Meth is the Oxygen atom on the Carbon ring extension is replaced by a hydrogen in a very simple Fedal-Crafts reaction with stuff you can by at Home Depot if you have 24 hours to kill and if you are caught 10 years. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW

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I believe it’s only illegal in certain states. I know Florida, where I live, passed a law a year or two ago which prohibits its sale within the state. At the time our local newspaper had a list of several other states where it’s forbidden. I can’t imagine why several states would have laws against it if it were against the law to sell it in the entire country. Nadine – Atkid since 11/30/98 197/177/140 You’re invited to visit Our Little Corner of the Internet http://www.ourlittlecorner.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

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Right! Like METH is illegal. You sure are dub!

:Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of :the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I :would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it :into the US. : :Amanda — don’t read alt.foot.fat-free

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW  Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

ROFLMAO I love this shit hahahaha John

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Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under. Be very careful if you do find some – this stuff has caused deaths via heart problems.

Granted, these figures are from memory, and not official, but I looked this up a few months ago.  To the best of my memory, there are less than 30 total deaths attributable to ephedrine, and all but 2 of them were attributed to overdosing or taking it with one of the health conditions where its use is contraindicated. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under.

Overuse and abuse can cause fatal arrythmias, but if you follow the label directions and don’t take more than you’re supposed to it is safe. I wouldn’t say that it is "extremely" dangerous, although the potential is there if it is overused. Case in point, the 15 year old fashion model, Kristy Taylor, younger sister of supermodel Nikki Taylor, died of a fatal heart arrythmia due to overuse of a Primatene inhaler.  The news reports say that she had not been diagnosed with asthma, and I don’t know if she was using the inhaler as a stimulant or appetite suppressant, or if she genuinely was having shortness of breath, but at any rate, she did overuse it, and died.  So the moral of this story is "Follow the directions". Karen 216/172/118 Healthy and successful  low carb Atkins’ since 10-14-98

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

A few states in the US have prohibited ephedrine without prescription. In most states of the US it is freely available over the counter in asthma remedies like Primatene and Bronk-Aid.  It is merely not sold over the counter as ephedrine alone, but combined with guaifenesin. Allegedly the guaifenesin renders it useless for making speed. Texas had a debate last summer regarding banning ephedrine.  The proposal was shot down, but they intended to grandfather the brand-name asthma remedies, and only outlaw the diet preparations and Mini-Thins. Banning the Mini-Thins (which are now called Two-Way tablets) while allowing the Primatene was a really dumb idea, as they contain the exact same active ingredients per dose, and have almost identical text on the label as an asthma treatment as the Primatene label.  They merely have a reputation for being used by truckers to stay awake. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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I believe it’s only illegal in certain states. I know Florida, where I live, passed a law a year or two ago which prohibits its sale within the state. At the time our local newspaper had a list of several other states where it’s forbidden. I can’t imagine why several states would have laws against it if it were against the law to sell it in the entire country. Nadine – Atkid since 11/30/98 197/177/140

I live in Florida, and I bought Primatene easily at Eckerd’s, which is pharm ephedrine with guaifenesin.  I also ordered it online.  I had been told by an Herbalife rep that thier product "Original Green" which contains Ma Juang (did I spell that right?) was illegal to sell in Florida and they had an alternative "Green" to sell here, but I’ve seen the ingredient in other products sold right here in Florida.  Metabolife has a booth right in our local mall, and it contains it, and GNC has products that contain it too.  So though you may technically be right about the legalities, (I don’t really know), I have found it several places. Karen 216/172/118 Healthy and successful  low carb Atkins’ since 10-14-98

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can anyone get this for me?

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Also schrieb William Rowan: Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

LOL LOL LOL LOL I guess you’d better tell the makers of bronk-aid. And all those truck stops selling Mini Thins. Good Lord, I’m a criminal! Oh, my.  Thanks for the laugh.  That oughta be good for some aerobic exercise. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Amanda Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you

– The differential of hi over ho is ho di hi minus hi d ho ho over ho ho.    

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US. Amanda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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 Try "Mormon Tea"

That is a tea that as far as I know is only found in Germany. It contains MaHuang which is the herbal equivalent of ephedrine. As the poster is from the UK I believe that he will not be able to get that tea In Strength and Health Allan

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UK ECA – FAQ  (Version 2 – David Turner 1999) Overview This FAQ is aimed at providing bodybuilders in the UK with additional information needed to obtain and successfully use the ECA stack.  This FAQ is not intended to give in depth information, but act as a UK biased extension to all the other ECA info that is in circulation.  The technical detail in this FAQ has intensionally been kept to a minimum to make the content accessable to all. What does ECA stand for? ECA stands for Ephedrine Hydrochloride (ephedrine), Caffeine and Aspirin.  They are the three ingredients that make up the stack. What the stack can do? Stacking the above ingredients and taking them in doses throughout the day has been shown to help increase fat loss by stimulating your body’s metabolism.  (Assuming that you are following a sensible calorie controlled diet.)  Additionally, the ECA stack is thought to have anti-catabolic properties, so you lose less muscle while dieting. Who shouldn’t take the stack? The ECA stack acts as a powerful stimulant that can raise your blood pressure and slightly alter the ratio of good / bad cholesteral in the blood.  Therefore anyone with high blood pressure or heart problems should not take the stack. Where can I get the stack? In the UK ephedrine is a prescription drug.  Therefore it is very difficult to obtain it by itself.  Luckily, a product called Do-Do Chesteze contains Ephedrine and is freely available from most chemists in the UK.  Chesteze comes in packets of 12 and 36 tablets. Caffeine can also be obtained from most chemists in a product called Pro-Plus.  This is available in packets of 24, 48 and 96 tablets. Aspirin is easiest of all to obtain as it is freely available in it’s generic form from all chemists. What if the chemist asks me funny questions? The chemist may ask you questions such as: – Have you taken this before? – Are you on any other medications? – What are your reasons for buying this? The best things to say in reply are: – yes – no – to help my breathing as my chest is a bit tight If you still have problems then you could try going to a small independent chemist who is more likely to serve you without question. It is also an idea to spread your purchases over a few shopping visits to reduce any suspicion. What dosages should I take? The ideal ratio for the ECA stack is 10:1 caffeine to ephedrine.  Many sources suggest that the ideal dosage is 25mg ephedrine, 250mg caffeine and 80-300mg aspirin. More specifically, you could take 1 Chesteze, 3-4 Pro-plus and half a full dose aspirin.  This gives you 18.3 mg ephedrine,  180mg caffeine, 150mg aspirin.  Some people take double the dosage of Chesteze and Pro-plus, but this is an individual thing so I would start at this lower dosage and see how it effects you. How often? The above dosage should be taken 3 times a day with at least 3 hours in between.  It is also recommended that your last dose should be before 6:00 pm, or you may have problems getting to sleep. Some people recommend only taking the stack 5 days a week with 2 days off to allow your body a small break from the effects.  Others stay on it 7 days a week.  Again this is a personal thing so you may want to experiment. Along the same lines, some people will use the stack for weeks without stopping.  Other’s will cycle the doses i.e. 2 weeks on then a week off etc.  It is recommended that 4 weeks would be about the maximum that you should stay on the stack without a break of at least a week.  The basic rational is that your body will become used to the ECA stack stimulation and the effects will wear off.  By taking a break, it is possible for your body to reap better rewards when you go back on the stack. The wired up feeling is likely to diminish within 1-2 weeks of starting the stack.  Evidence shows that the fat burning properties of the stack still continue well after that time, so do not assume that an immediate break is needed. What is this Theophylline ingredient in Chesteze? Theophylline is a kind of sister drug to caffeine. (i.e. it is a member of the same family of drugs.)  They are both stimulants and work in very similar ways.  Theophylline does stimulate the heart muscle tissue to a greater extent than caffeine, but is safe in doses of under 1000 mg a day. Some say that since theophylline is very like caffeine, you can reduce the dosage of caffeine in the stack by 100mg.  Again experiment. Conclusion The ECA has been used by thousands of people to help them lose weight. It has been shown to be safe and effective and not have any noticable side-effects.  Before trying the stack I strongly recommend that you read the excellent article by Sandeep De on his web site.  See below for the address. Additional Resources: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4039/eca.htm – Sandeep De British Medical Encyclopedia Disclaimer: Note: This information is for educational purposes only. I am not responsible for any effects that you may or may not incur while utilizing the ephedrine / caffeine / aspirin stack. Use at your own risk. As with all things, consult your doctor before utilizing these supplements.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

  Try "Mormon Tea"

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Check out the post entitled UK – ECA FAQ in uk.rec.bodybuilding. Stephen Mulholland – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.

No it frigging isn’t.  It’s illegal in SOME states of the US. Stephen Mulholland It’s illegal because it is one of – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US. Amanda Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW  Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

You haven’t got this quite right. It’s only called Hellman’s mayonnaise east of the Rockies. On the west coast, it’s called Best Foods Mayonnaise. That’s because when the company was founded in the 1940s, Lillian Hellman was trying to establish herself as a serious author and playwright. Since she felt being closely associated with a condiment company would hurt her career with the Hollywood studios, she came up with the Best Foods name for California. It is true that Ms. Hellman’s leftist politics did cause the company to suffer during the McCarthy era in the 1950’s. During this period, millions of schoolkids were forced to eat tuna and margarine sandwiches, Miracle Whip was outlawed in 23 states, tartar sauce was known as "pickle relish" and aioli was unavailable at any cost. Truly a dark period in American cuisine. Only through eternal vigilence can we prevent this from happening again. George Read with caution – sig under reconstruction

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Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under. Be very careful if you do find some – this stuff has caused deaths via heart problems.

Granted, these figures are from memory, and not official, but I looked this up a few months ago.  To the best of my memory, there are less than 30 total deaths attributable to ephedrine, and all but 2 of them were attributed to overdosing or taking it with one of the health conditions where its use is contraindicated. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW  Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

ROFLMAO I love this shit hahahaha John

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 Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

ROFLMAO

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Also,  Ephedrine is extremely dangerous – there have been more than a small number of deaths from this herb.  Ma-huang is another name this herb is sold under. Be very careful if you do find some – this stuff has caused deaths via heart problems. Krista – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US. Amanda Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to jail for you? Just a few questions. I am going to be straight and just ask outright ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? or a decent ECA product that works? i am willing to pay whatever the cost i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it please will someone help me please e mail directly back to me Thank you — My ICQ-34124615

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IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW

  Hellman’s was practically outlawed during the Hollywood "Red Scare," and you couldn’t get a decent sandwich, unless it was pastrami with horseradish.  Some all-night writers tried a mixture of salad oil, egg white, champagne vinegar, and benzedrine on the 24-hour carry out coffee shop laminated food objects. "Diet Mayo" made a comeback and rallied consumption of stimulant sandwich spreads in the late 60’s with the appearance of brown crystal crank which was popularly called "peanut butter."  Peanut butter, mayo, and banana sandwiches became a staple of the Muscle Beach crowd, although the sandwiches later became less of a staple and more of a paper clip.

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What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

  Ephedrine was discovered in 1887 by the Oriental biochemist Nagi. Given the fact that your body’s hormones and protein utilization is high, many athletes find it important to insure themselves peak workouts. Ephedrine s one of the few proven metabolic optimizes that help that occur. It first received attention in America in 1924 when medical scientists Carl Schmidt and K.K. Chen found it to have very powerful stimulating effects on patients. With respect to it’s origin, the best source of L-Ephedrine is the Ephedra Equisetina (better known as Ma Huang) plant that grows in China and India. The less effective forms of ephedrine generally comes from less expensive plant sources such as Ephedra Nevadensis which grows in the western states.  Ephedrine is the strongest safe stimulant known today. It will allow athletes to train longer and harder, thereby assisting them in making greater gains.

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What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

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Also schrieb Kelley: What the hell are you talking about ?  Ephedrine is a broncodialator.  I can

Maybe in your Wal-Mart, but in mine they’ve restricted the sales of ephedrine-containing cold nostrums. All you can get today is pseudoephedrine, which does fsck all as a component of an ECA stack. — Vs lbh pna ernq guvf lbh ernyyl bhtug gb trg bhg zber            

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Maybe in your Wal-Mart, but in mine they’ve restricted the sales of ephedrine-containing cold nostrums.

The local Costco pharmacy department limits the sale of pseudoephedrine preparations to two per customer.  I haven’t noticed restrictions elsewhere. All you can get today is pseudoephedrine, which does fsck all as a component of an ECA stack.

However, it’s a perfectly good precursor to kitchen-lab methamphetamine. :-) l-ephedrine and d-pseudoephedrine both have the desired chirality to be reduced to d-methamphetamine. — Steve Dyer

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Stop by your local 7-11 and ask Mohammed for the Mini thins or something like that.  The makers of the ephedrine tabs have included Guafenisen  (sp?) in them and sell them as a decongestant like over the counter med.  Guaf. is almost impossible to separate from the Ephed. to the normal crank head.  It takes a more powerful solvent to separate and may interfere with the reduction process of making meth.  Remember the only difference between Ephed. and Meth is the Oxygen atom on the Carbon ring extension is replaced by a hydrogen in a very simple Fedal-Crafts reaction with stuff you can by at Home Depot if you have 24 hours to kill and if you are caught 10 years. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – IS THERE ANY METH IN MYONNAISE DOES ANYBODY KNOW??!?? Meth *is NOT* mayonnaise!!!! Boy are you dumb!!!! BW

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Right! Like METH is illegal. You sure are dub!

:Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of :the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I :would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it :into the US. : :Amanda — don’t read alt.foot.fat-free

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I believe it’s only illegal in certain states. I know Florida, where I live, passed a law a year or two ago which prohibits its sale within the state. At the time our local newspaper had a list of several other states where it’s forbidden. I can’t imagine why several states would have laws against it if it were against the law to sell it in the entire country. Nadine – Atkid since 11/30/98 197/177/140 You’re invited to visit Our Little Corner of the Internet http://www.ourlittlecorner.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it into the US.

A few states in the US have prohibited ephedrine without prescription. In most states of the US it is freely available over the counter in asthma remedies like Primatene and Bronk-Aid.  It is merely not sold over the counter as ephedrine alone, but combined with guaifenesin. Allegedly the guaifenesin renders it useless for making speed. Texas had a debate last summer regarding banning ephedrine.  The proposal was shot down, but they intended to grandfather the brand-name asthma remedies, and only outlaw the diet preparations and Mini-Thins. Banning the Mini-Thins (which are now called Two-Way tablets) while allowing the Primatene was a really dumb idea, as they contain the exact same active ingredients per dose, and have almost identical text on the label as an asthma treatment as the Primatene label.  They merely have a reputation for being used by truckers to stay awake. —                 "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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You are an idiot. K in Cali

:Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of :the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I :would be concerned with the legal ramifications.  It is also illegal to import it :into the US. : :Amanda :

: : Has it occurred to you that maybe that’s because it’s : illegal?  Have you checked to see whether it’s illegal? : If it’s illegal, are you asking us to possibly go to : jail for you? : : Just a few questions. :

: : I am going to be straight and just ask outright : : ]can anyone anywhere-preferably in the UK-get hold of some ephedrine for me? : or a decent ECA product that works? : : i am willing to pay whatever the cost : : i have tried to order it off web sites but they won’t send it : : please will someone help me : : please e mail directly back to me : : Thank you : : — : My ICQ-34124615 : :

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Just a note, Ephedrine is illegal in the US.  It’s illegal because it is one of the main ingredients in meth.  So, although some people use it for weight loss, I would be concerned with the legal ramifications. It is also illegal to import it into the US.

It most certainly is not "illegal".  Bulk ephedrine and bulk pseudo- ephedrine are "watched" compounds (sale of which alerts the DEA), but they’re components of a variety of OTC nostrums which are perfectly legal to sell and purchase in most US states. The FDA has been trying to put limits on the amount of ephedrine per dose in OTC preparations.  I don’t know where that stands. However, this doesn’t criminalize the use of the drug (unless you’re trying to synthesize methamphetamine). — Steve Dyer

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