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Very rarely, bloody noses can result from an autoimmune disease, Wegener’s granulomatosis.  If the usual treatments don’t work, you might consider getting tested for WG.

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Barbara, is the air in your home dry? Try saline nose spray. Does your nose hurt? Belinda

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  I was told to use an antibiotic cream to see if that helped, and   if not, I’d have to have a cauterization.  About the age of 6 in Quincy, MASS, I was hit on the nose with a  frozen snowball.  From then on, I had severe nosebleeds weekly  until I had a cauterization about the age of 13. .. Normal’s only a state of mind. Pity the state my mind is in is insanity.   ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 — | WarpGate:  Fire Chief 52:1000/200 | The WarpGate Network Internet Gateway El Cajon, CA.

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ask if anyone else has trouble with bloody noses?  It’s not *lots* of blood, just when I blow my nose.  Is this arthritis-

Same here.  I have been putting vaseline on quetip in each nostril – just wipe around on inside – it helps, but need to do every day – baby oil helped too, but not as much.  Another person said there was something, I think boric acid ointment you could get from drugist.  When I had sinus infection was given a steroid spray and when I was using that the bloody nose-thing disappeared. Peggy

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Barbara Joy wrote Sorry for the disgusting-sounding subject line, but I wanted to ask if anyone else has trouble with bloody noses?  It’s not *lots* of blood, just when I blow my nose.  Is this arthritis- related?  Medicine-relate?  Something totally different?

I was just reading something today on chronic sinusitis that said a chronic sinus infection could cause this.  Also, remember the study that came out a few months ago from  Mayo Health? It said that in a lot  (around ~90%?) of chronic sinus infections they found fungal infections.  I didn’t save the links but was skimming some of the ones that came up on a search at dogpile for "sinus infections".  Do you have any other signs of chronic sinus trouble, like low fever, stuffiness, etc?     Liz G

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Heres the link: http://www.mayo.edu/comm/mcr/news/news_773.html I get bleeding at certain stages of my ever reoccuring sinus infection but havent had it since the sinus surgery last spring. Johnie… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was just reading something today on chronic sinusitis that said a chronic sinus infection could cause this.  Also, remember the study that came out a few months ago from  Mayo Health?

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It’s not *lots* of blood, just when I blow my nose.  

Quite  probably you just need more humidity in your house. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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I get nose bleeds all the time in my right nostril- the sore never heals even if I use antibiotic cream in it day in and day out- I keep telling the dermie but he always says it can’t be psoriasis- so what the heck is it then? Seems like it’s related, to me. I would like to know what to put up there to heal it, especially if it is psoriasis and I’m pretty certain it is… A – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry for the disgusting-sounding subject line, but I wanted to ask if anyone else has trouble with bloody noses?  It’s not *lots* of blood, just when I blow my nose.  Is this arthritis- related?  Medicine-relate?  Something totally different? tia Barbara Joy The only cure for suffering is to face it head on,  grasp it round the neck, and use it.  Mary Craig * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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this happened to me a couple of years ago, barbara joy. it started with a trip to colorado (high and dry altitude). by the end of that trip my nose was so strange i could hardly breathe through it. and it lasted for months after i returned to virginia, with the bloody blowings (?), etc. definitely a humidity problem. diane

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Yep, the allergy doc put me on two squirts of Ocean [over the counter saline solution] in each nostril followed by petroleum jelly.  I have been using something called Borelieum[sp] for this as I like the smell and it is meant for noses.  I really need it if I am flying. If I let the nose get too dry it leads to drying out the rest of me and then usually follows with a nighttime asthma attack. Those are no fun. Caroline – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry for the disgusting-sounding subject line, but I wanted to ask if anyone else has trouble with bloody noses?  It’s not *lots* of blood, just when I blow my nose.  Is this arthritis- related?  Medicine-relate?  Something totally different? tia Barbara Joy The only cure for suffering is to face it head on,  grasp it round the neck, and use it.  Mary Craig * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I would like to know what to put up there to heal it, especially if it is psoriasis and I’m pretty certain it is… A

Try some cortisone cream.  1% is available over the counter. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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I was told by dermie not to put it up there but maybe it’s because he felt it wasn’t psoriasis… I don’t know. I’m willing to try it at this point tho if it is safe…I do have 1% ointment which may be good to stick up there A – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to know what to put up there to heal it, especially if it is psoriasis and I’m pretty certain it is… A Try some cortisone cream.  1% is available over the counter. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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Barbara Joy- It may be Sjogren’s dryness as a component of RA.  I have a perforated septum and have had nose bleeds for years.  I use Aquaphor in my nose.  Jan in KC

I was told it’s a sign of a blood pressure spike – and – my blood vessels are really close to the surface up there.  I was told to use an antibiotic cream to see if that helped, and if not, I’d have to have a cauterization.  I’ve started using MSM and didn’t know it works as a blood thinner – maybe check your meds and supplements? Carone

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Sorry for the disgusting-sounding subject line, but I wanted to ask if anyone else has trouble with bloody noses?  It’s not *lots* of blood, just when I blow my nose.  Is this arthritis- related?  Medicine-relate?  Something totally different? tia Barbara Joy The only cure for suffering is to face it head on,  grasp it round the neck, and use it.  Mary Craig * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Barbara Joy- It may be Sjogren’s dryness as a component of RA.  I have a perforated septum and have had nose bleeds for years.  I use Aquaphor in my nose.  Jan in KC

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I do. It’s because my nose gets dry. Try saline spray. It’s safe and you can use it as often as you need without fear of addiction. DeeTee Sorry for the disgusting-sounding subject line, but I wanted to ask if anyone else has trouble with bloody noses?  It’s not *lots* of blood, just when I blow my nose.  Is this arthritis- related?  Medicine-relate?  Something totally different? tia Barbara Joy The only cure for suffering is to face it head on,  grasp it round the neck, and use it.  Mary Craig * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Len, I am a 34 year old asthmatic.  Like you, I was absolutely devastated when I was clinically diagnosed.  I knew I had asthma for over a year but the military doctors wouldn’t officially diagnose me for some dumb reason.  Instead they chose to treat me symptomatically.  Jan 96 I almost died of an asthma attack.  The doctor that saw me, diagnosed it as asthma and started treating the problem and not so much the symptoms.  He started me on Prednisone (Bad Shit) and 16 puffs of Azmacort daily which was more than the recommended maximum.  He also TOLD me to start running again.  3+ years later I am down to 2 puffs twice a day (Half the recommended minimum) and I have run many half marathons and two full marathons.  My doctor declared me a success story due in large part to my willingness to take my medicine religiously and continue my running.  I hope some of this can help you.  Don’t get too down, with the right medicine you too can get better.  For the person that won’t take the azmacort or albuterol, you are going to end up hurting yourself with Primatene Mist. Trust me, as I said earlier, I was treated symptomatically with albuterol only for over a year and damn near died from an asthma attack.  I HAVE NOT had to use albuterol in well over a year because of the Azmacort.  Do yourself a favor and go back and get your azmacort and albuterol.  Your lungs will be glad you did. Jon Hurtado – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Me too. Sometimes it gets so bad I have to I have to slow to a gasping walk.  When it got especially bad two years ago, I went to a doctor who gave me the same diagnosis along with two different inhalers, Azmacort and Albuterol. I tend to avoid both doctors and prescription medicine so I never refilled the prescriptions.  Instead I bought Primateen over the counter medicine for infequent use. A few observations based on personal experience.  Morning runs are usually problem free.  I did nine miles this morning with a slight wheeze but on Thursday evening a four mile run drove me to the inhaler.  Nighttime in general is bad and I often have trouble sleeping.  Lying down is worse than sitting or standing. Hot humid weather is my favorite.  The added moisture is easier on the lungs. Some of the worst episodes are when I start my annual running season after an inactive winter or in the early fall when the air is very dry. Often I can "run through it".  The breathing difficulty eases after about twenty minutes.  My amatuer theory is that running produces extra adreniline that causes the lungs to relax.  Thats why I prefer long distinces and haven’t run anything shorter than a 10K in years. And I’m running the NYC marathon this year.

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I lkive in Austin, TX and run with asthma. I carry my Albuterol with me.  I, too, mostly run in the morning or sometimes at noon. Since, I take 1 accolate tab about an hour before running along with two puffs on my Serevent. I tried PM but my heart rate would jump up there so I gave it up. I usually do not have any problems in the morning. I think that is due to the low mold count and pollen counts. I can tell you that I do have some trouble during my lunchtime runs due to those factors. I cannot run at all late in the afternoon.  My favorite is also the cool humid air for running. I do best in the fog. Dave in Texas

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Len, I am a 34 year old asthmatic.  Like you, I was absolutely devastated when I was clinically diagnosed.  I knew I had asthma for over a year but the military doctors wouldn’t officially diagnose me for some dumb reason.  Instead they chose to treat me symptomatically.  Jan 96 I almost died of an asthma attack.  The doctor that saw me, diagnosed it as asthma and started treating the problem and not so much the symptoms.  He started me on Prednisone (Bad Shit) and 16 puffs of Azmacort daily which was more than the recommended maximum.  He also TOLD me to start running again.  3+ years later I am down to 2 puffs twice a day (Half the recommended minimum) and I have run many half marathons and two full marathons.  My doctor declared me a success story due in large part to my willingness to take my medicine religiously and continue my running.  I hope some of this can help you.  Don’t get too down, with the right medicine you too can get better.   Jon Hurtado – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there! Since a few months my doctor told me that I have Asthmatic Bronchitus. My whole world fell apart, because I really like doing sports, and ofcourse running included. I’ve ran a few times, but it is tripple as difficult than normal. Does any runner have the same ‘problem’ … and can anyone give me any tips……. because I want to keep on running. According to a couple of stories, it is, ofcourse, possible to keep on running, but I have to find a way HOW to do it! If someone could help me, I would be VERY greatfull. Helene

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| Since a few months my doctor told me that I have Asthmatic Bronchitus. My | whole world fell apart, because I really like doing sports, and ofcourse | running included. I understand how you feel. I was in high school and training for 800m on track when I got exercise-induced asthma. Since I enjoyed running very much and ran six times a week it was a great adjustment having to quit competitions and hard training. | I’ve ran a few times, but it is tripple as difficult than normal. | Does any runner have the same ‘problem’ … and can anyone give me any | tips……. because I want to keep on running. According to a couple of | stories, it is, ofcourse, possible to keep on running, but I have to find a | way HOW to do it! I don’t know of my experiences with exercise-induced asthma will apply to the bronchitus type as well but you’ll soon find that out… Most people with asthma need a longer warm-up in order to get the respiratory system ready for training. For me the exact running length of the warm-up varies on a daily basis but it is seldom less than two kilometers (1.25 miles) and never more than five kilometers (3.1 miles – ie half of my usual running distance). If you need to minimize your asthma as much as possible to run hard you should also try to provoke your asthma at the beginning of your run. All I need to do is usually to run at the same pace as I would like to run after the warm-up for about one kilometer (0.6 miles) – then I get asthma. Be very careful when you do this – you don’t want a serious asthma fit just some mild to moderate asthma symptoms. After I get asthma I walk for a while until the asthma is gone – an article I read in Runner’s World many years ago estimated a 15 minutes break as ideal. The same article suggested that you take asthma medicine that has immediate effect at this point but I never do. If you so ease yourself into running after the walking break you should now see that the asthma does not come back or at least that the asthma isn’t as crippling as before. However, the most important (and of course the most difficult) thing to do when running is to run at the treshold of asthma. You need to know much about your own asthma symptoms and running ability to be able to predict exactly what running or walking pace will produce asthma on a given day – and then decide to go just a little slower. Hills are often tricky so slow down more than you think is necessary at the beginning of the hill and then increase the pace gradually till you are at the treshold level again. The process of learning to run at the proper speed in order to avoid asthma can be very long and difficult. You will probably need several months to learn the technique well. If you are like me you will have good days and bad days asthma-wise so the appropriate running pace today could be wrong tomorrow. Still, even though it is possible to deal with running and asthma, I’m not sure that you’ll enjoy more competetive running as much as before. Doing intervals on a track is hard in itself so doing intervals with asthma is, well, extremely tough. The same goes for any races you’d want to participate in – at least if you insist on maximal effort. However since your maximal effort in running will be much more agonizing than that of your fellow runners you should probably ease up a bit when the asthma hits you at full force. I hope that you’ll find any of my advice useful and also that you’ll have the patience to find solutions that will work for you. Good luck! — Best regards, Ove Vik-Mo http://www.ove.cx/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Me too. Sometimes it gets so bad I have to I have to slow to a gasping walk.  When it got especially bad two years ago, I went to a doctor who gave me the same diagnosis along with two different inhalers, Azmacort and Albuterol. I tend to avoid both doctors and prescription medicine so I never refilled the prescriptions.  Instead I bought Primateen over the counter medicine for infequent use. A few observations based on personal experience.  Morning runs are usually problem free.  I did nine miles this morning with a slight wheeze but on Thursday evening a four mile run drove me to the inhaler.  Nighttime in general is bad and I often have trouble sleeping.  Lying down is worse than sitting or standing. Hot humid weather is my favorite.  The added moisture is easier on the lungs. Some of the worst episodes are when I start my annual running season after an inactive winter or in the early fall when the air is very dry. Often I can "run through it".  The breathing difficulty eases after about twenty minutes.  My amatuer theory is that running produces extra adreniline that causes the lungs to relax.  Thats why I prefer long distinces and haven’t run anything shorter than a 10K in years. And I’m running the NYC marathon this year.

    Primateen mist has a much greater impact on your body than azmacort or albuterol.     Using PM to help your asthma is like shooting a small target with a shotgun. You need     a medication that focuses on your lungs and PM affects your whole body. Have you noticed     if you have an increase in your heart rate after taking PM?  That is just one of the side effects     from using PM.  You can probably keep using PM and not notice any problems but your body     would be better off if you went back on the medicine your doctor gave you.     The Azmacort is an anti-inflamatory to keep your lungs clear. Albuterol is a broncodialator      which will clear your lungs if they do become inflamed.  PM also clears your lungs but the      albuterol has far less impact on the rest of your body.  Also, the azmacort should reduce      the amount of times you need to use the albuterol. Don House

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Me too. Sometimes it gets so bad I have to I have to slow to a gasping walk.  When it got especially bad two years ago, I went to a doctor who gave me the same diagnosis along with two different inhalers, Azmacort and Albuterol. I tend to avoid both doctors and prescription medicine so I never refilled the prescriptions.  Instead I bought Primateen over the counter medicine for infequent use. A few observations based on personal experience.  Morning runs are usually problem free.  I did nine miles this morning with a slight wheeze but on Thursday evening a four mile run drove me to the inhaler.  Nighttime in general is bad and I often have trouble sleeping.  Lying down is worse than sitting or standing. Hot humid weather is my favorite.  The added moisture is easier on the lungs. Some of the worst episodes are when I start my annual running season after an inactive winter or in the early fall when the air is very dry. Often I can "run through it".  The breathing difficulty eases after about twenty minutes.  My amatuer theory is that running produces extra adreniline that causes the lungs to relax.  Thats why I prefer long distinces and haven’t run anything shorter than a 10K in years. And I’m running the NYC marathon this year.

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Hi there! Since a few months my doctor told me that I have Asthmatic Bronchitus. My whole world fell apart, because I really like doing sports, and ofcourse running included. I’ve ran a few times, but it is tripple as difficult than normal. Does any runner have the same ‘problem’ … and can anyone give me any tips……. because I want to keep on running. According to a couple of stories, it is, ofcourse, possible to keep on running, but I have to find a way HOW to do it! If someone could help me, I would be VERY greatfull. Helene

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Me too. Sometimes it gets so bad I have to I have to slow to a gasping walk.  When it got especially bad two years ago, I went to a doctor who gave me the same diagnosis along with two different inhalers, Azmacort and Albuterol. I tend to avoid both doctors and prescription medicine so I never refilled the prescriptions.  Instead I bought Primateen over the counter medicine for infequent use. A few observations based on personal experience.  Morning runs are usually problem free.  I did nine miles this morning with a slight wheeze but on Thursday evening a four mile run drove me to the inhaler.  Nighttime in general is bad and I often have trouble sleeping.  Lying down is worse than sitting or standing. Hot humid weather is my favorite.  The added moisture is easier on the lungs. Some of the worst episodes are when I start my annual running season after an inactive winter or in the early fall when the air is very dry. Often I can "run through it".  The breathing difficulty eases after about twenty minutes.  My amatuer theory is that running produces extra adreniline that causes the lungs to relax.  Thats why I prefer long distinces and haven’t run anything shorter than a 10K in years. And I’m running the NYC marathon this year.

    Primateen mist has a much greater impact on your body than azmacort or albuterol.     Using PM to help your asthma is like shooting a small target with a shotgun. You need     a medication that focuses on your lungs and PM affects your whole body. Have you noticed     if you have an increase in your heart rate after taking PM?  That is just one of the side effects     from using PM.  You can probably keep using PM and not notice any problems but your body     would be better off if you went back on the medicine your doctor gave you.     The Azmacort is an anti-inflamatory to keep your lungs clear. Albuterol is a broncodialator      which will clear your lungs if they do become inflamed.  PM also clears your lungs but the      albuterol has far less impact on the rest of your body.  Also, the azmacort should reduce      the amount of times you need to use the albuterol. Don House

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I lkive in Austin, TX and run with asthma. I carry my Albuterol with me.  I, too, mostly run in the morning or sometimes at noon. Since, I take 1 accolate tab about an hour before running along with two puffs on my Serevent. I tried PM but my heart rate would jump up there so I gave it up. I usually do not have any problems in the morning. I think that is due to the low mold count and pollen counts. I can tell you that I do have some trouble during my lunchtime runs due to those factors. I cannot run at all late in the afternoon.  My favorite is also the cool humid air for running. I do best in the fog. Dave in Texas

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Len, I am a 34 year old asthmatic.  Like you, I was absolutely devastated when I was clinically diagnosed.  I knew I had asthma for over a year but the military doctors wouldn’t officially diagnose me for some dumb reason.  Instead they chose to treat me symptomatically.  Jan 96 I almost died of an asthma attack.  The doctor that saw me, diagnosed it as asthma and started treating the problem and not so much the symptoms.  He started me on Prednisone (Bad Shit) and 16 puffs of Azmacort daily which was more than the recommended maximum.  He also TOLD me to start running again.  3+ years later I am down to 2 puffs twice a day (Half the recommended minimum) and I have run many half marathons and two full marathons.  My doctor declared me a success story due in large part to my willingness to take my medicine religiously and continue my running.  I hope some of this can help you.  Don’t get too down, with the right medicine you too can get better.   Jon Hurtado – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi there! Since a few months my doctor told me that I have Asthmatic Bronchitus. My whole world fell apart, because I really like doing sports, and ofcourse running included. I’ve ran a few times, but it is tripple as difficult than normal. Does any runner have the same ‘problem’ … and can anyone give me any tips……. because I want to keep on running. According to a couple of stories, it is, ofcourse, possible to keep on running, but I have to find a way HOW to do it! If someone could help me, I would be VERY greatfull. Helene

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Len, I am a 34 year old asthmatic.  Like you, I was absolutely devastated when I was clinically diagnosed.  I knew I had asthma for over a year but the military doctors wouldn’t officially diagnose me for some dumb reason.  Instead they chose to treat me symptomatically.  Jan 96 I almost died of an asthma attack.  The doctor that saw me, diagnosed it as asthma and started treating the problem and not so much the symptoms.  He started me on Prednisone (Bad Shit) and 16 puffs of Azmacort daily which was more than the recommended maximum.  He also TOLD me to start running again.  3+ years later I am down to 2 puffs twice a day (Half the recommended minimum) and I have run many half marathons and two full marathons.  My doctor declared me a success story due in large part to my willingness to take my medicine religiously and continue my running.  I hope some of this can help you.  Don’t get too down, with the right medicine you too can get better.  For the person that won’t take the azmacort or albuterol, you are going to end up hurting yourself with Primatene Mist. Trust me, as I said earlier, I was treated symptomatically with albuterol only for over a year and damn near died from an asthma attack.  I HAVE NOT had to use albuterol in well over a year because of the Azmacort.  Do yourself a favor and go back and get your azmacort and albuterol.  Your lungs will be glad you did. Jon Hurtado – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Me too. Sometimes it gets so bad I have to I have to slow to a gasping walk.  When it got especially bad two years ago, I went to a doctor who gave me the same diagnosis along with two different inhalers, Azmacort and Albuterol. I tend to avoid both doctors and prescription medicine so I never refilled the prescriptions.  Instead I bought Primateen over the counter medicine for infequent use. A few observations based on personal experience.  Morning runs are usually problem free.  I did nine miles this morning with a slight wheeze but on Thursday evening a four mile run drove me to the inhaler.  Nighttime in general is bad and I often have trouble sleeping.  Lying down is worse than sitting or standing. Hot humid weather is my favorite.  The added moisture is easier on the lungs. Some of the worst episodes are when I start my annual running season after an inactive winter or in the early fall when the air is very dry. Often I can "run through it".  The breathing difficulty eases after about twenty minutes.  My amatuer theory is that running produces extra adreniline that causes the lungs to relax.  Thats why I prefer long distinces and haven’t run anything shorter than a 10K in years. And I’m running the NYC marathon this year.

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Hi there! Since a few months my doctor told me that I have Asthmatic Bronchitus. My whole world fell apart, because I really like doing sports, and ofcourse running included. I’ve ran a few times, but it is tripple as difficult than normal. Does any runner have the same ‘problem’ … and can anyone give me any tips……. because I want to keep on running. According to a couple of stories, it is, ofcourse, possible to keep on running, but I have to find a way HOW to do it! If someone could help me, I would be VERY greatfull. Helene

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Me too. Sometimes it gets so bad I have to I have to slow to a gasping walk.  When it got especially bad two years ago, I went to a doctor who gave me the same diagnosis along with two different inhalers, Azmacort and Albuterol. I tend to avoid both doctors and prescription medicine so I never refilled the prescriptions.  Instead I bought Primateen over the counter medicine for infequent use. A few observations based on personal experience.  Morning runs are usually problem free.  I did nine miles this morning with a slight wheeze but on Thursday evening a four mile run drove me to the inhaler.  Nighttime in general is bad and I often have trouble sleeping.  Lying down is worse than sitting or standing. Hot humid weather is my favorite.  The added moisture is easier on the lungs. Some of the worst episodes are when I start my annual running season after an inactive winter or in the early fall when the air is very dry. Often I can "run through it".  The breathing difficulty eases after about twenty minutes.  My amatuer theory is that running produces extra adreniline that causes the lungs to relax.  Thats why I prefer long distinces and haven’t run anything shorter than a 10K in years. And I’m running the NYC marathon this year.

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| Since a few months my doctor told me that I have Asthmatic Bronchitus. My | whole world fell apart, because I really like doing sports, and ofcourse | running included. I understand how you feel. I was in high school and training for 800m on track when I got exercise-induced asthma. Since I enjoyed running very much and ran six times a week it was a great adjustment having to quit competitions and hard training. | I’ve ran a few times, but it is tripple as difficult than normal. | Does any runner have the same ‘problem’ … and can anyone give me any | tips……. because I want to keep on running. According to a couple of | stories, it is, ofcourse, possible to keep on running, but I have to find a | way HOW to do it! I don’t know of my experiences with exercise-induced asthma will apply to the bronchitus type as well but you’ll soon find that out… Most people with asthma need a longer warm-up in order to get the respiratory system ready for training. For me the exact running length of the warm-up varies on a daily basis but it is seldom less than two kilometers (1.25 miles) and never more than five kilometers (3.1 miles – ie half of my usual running distance). If you need to minimize your asthma as much as possible to run hard you should also try to provoke your asthma at the beginning of your run. All I need to do is usually to run at the same pace as I would like to run after the warm-up for about one kilometer (0.6 miles) – then I get asthma. Be very careful when you do this – you don’t want a serious asthma fit just some mild to moderate asthma symptoms. After I get asthma I walk for a while until the asthma is gone – an article I read in Runner’s World many years ago estimated a 15 minutes break as ideal. The same article suggested that you take asthma medicine that has immediate effect at this point but I never do. If you so ease yourself into running after the walking break you should now see that the asthma does not come back or at least that the asthma isn’t as crippling as before. However, the most important (and of course the most difficult) thing to do when running is to run at the treshold of asthma. You need to know much about your own asthma symptoms and running ability to be able to predict exactly what running or walking pace will produce asthma on a given day – and then decide to go just a little slower. Hills are often tricky so slow down more than you think is necessary at the beginning of the hill and then increase the pace gradually till you are at the treshold level again. The process of learning to run at the proper speed in order to avoid asthma can be very long and difficult. You will probably need several months to learn the technique well. If you are like me you will have good days and bad days asthma-wise so the appropriate running pace today could be wrong tomorrow. Still, even though it is possible to deal with running and asthma, I’m not sure that you’ll enjoy more competetive running as much as before. Doing intervals on a track is hard in itself so doing intervals with asthma is, well, extremely tough. The same goes for any races you’d want to participate in – at least if you insist on maximal effort. However since your maximal effort in running will be much more agonizing than that of your fellow runners you should probably ease up a bit when the asthma hits you at full force. I hope that you’ll find any of my advice useful and also that you’ll have the patience to find solutions that will work for you. Good luck! — Best regards, Ove Vik-Mo http://www.ove.cx/

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I watched a news broadcast some months ago and I found a webpage the news station has about a possible cure for asthma, I live with this horrible disease thats changed my life about 7 years ago, tho, I have meds that keep in under control part of the time .. Thanks to the miracle of medical science.  Anyway I think there might be good news for us who suffer in the near future, as I seen on my local news station, I hope it’s a relism we can all have some day .. go to tthis page and read about it http://www.wdiv.com/asthmavax.html .. let me know if anyone has heard of this possible cure or not and knows more about the resaerch being done in New Zealand  asthma  :) Have a great day everyone.

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I watched a news broadcast some months ago and I found a webpage the news station has about a possible cure for asthma, I live with this horrible disease thats changed my life about 7 years ago, tho, I have meds that keep in under control part of the time .. Thanks to the miracle of medical science.  Anyway I think there might be good news for us who suffer in the near future, as I seen on my local news station, I hope it’s a relism we can all have some day .. go to tthis page and read about it http://www.wdiv.com/asthmavax.html .. let me know if anyone has heard of this possible cure or not and knows more about the resaerch being done in New Zealand  asthma  :)

I would not have a whole lot of confidence in this.  Too many red flags: 1) presented to the popular media rather than to the scientistic community.  2) The claim of 100% effectiveness. 3) The claim of "instant" effectiveness. 4) The sob story about the kid with the nighttime asthma attack.  

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I watched a news broadcast some months ago and I found a webpage the news station has about a possible cure for asthma, I live with this horrible disease thats changed my life about 7 years ago, tho, I have meds that keep in under control part of the time .. Thanks to the miracle of medical science.  Anyway I think there might be good news for us who suffer in the near future, as I seen on my local news station, I hope it’s a relism we can all have some day .. go to tthis page and read about it http://www.wdiv.com/asthmavax.html .. let me know if anyone has heard of this possible cure or not and knows more about the resaerch being done in New Zealand  asthma  :) I would not have a whole lot of confidence in this.  Too many red flags: 1) presented to the popular media rather than to the scientistic community.  2) The claim of 100% effectiveness. 3) The claim of "instant" effectiveness. 4) The sob story about the kid with the nighttime asthma attack.

I don’t know Colin, you should add the way it was administered to the asthmatic mice ("We just put it on the end of his nose, and he sniffed it quite gently’) Martin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I spent my Sunday morning in the ER again.  I did that on May 13, also. But this time was different.  I was having nighttime trouble breathing, and woke up with the same thing.  Coughing, short of breath, shaky, somewhat panicky. I decided maybe I should go to the Doc.  So I went to the ER.  And the Doc said I definitely have asthma.  Called it bronchial asthma.

I’m really glad you went to the hospital.  I hope they told you to never ignore these kind of symptoms again.  Ignoring them can put you in the hospital for a while. My PFM was at about 200.  They put me on an IV cortisone treatment right then,  and gave me a nebulizer (sp?) treatment.  They waited a while, then another  nebulizer treatment.  After 2.5 hours, they sent me home, with a stop at the pharmacy.  I now have Promethazine with codiene cough syrup if I get going and can’t stop. (Laughing is a big no-no, I have been learning)  I also am on Predisone  - 60 mg. today, 55 mg. mg. tomorrow, 50 mg. Tuesday, etc. until done.  Amoxycillin – 500 mg 3x day.  And Azmacort inhaler – 6 puffs 2x

<day (although today I am supposed to do 2 puffs every two hours).  And my rescue inhaler – Ventolin – if needed (I forgot to get a refill today – will call tomorrow).

 Rule # 1 – Never ever run out of your rescue inhaler.  Always have it with you. Did they give you a peak flow meter?  It’s important to know your green, yellow and red zone numbers to help control your asthma. I am very tired.  Shaky from the drugs.  Generally fatigued.  I don’t know if it’s from the drugs or the attack(s).  I asked if I could take today off work, and the doctor wrote out a work slip – he wants me off until Thursday. We have a BIG special event at work on the weekend so I guess I’ll be doing some delegating from home.  It’ll be a real challenge to go back on Thursday and NOT  try to jump in with both feet.

Just take it easy and get as much rest as you can.  Once you start feeling better, there is no reason to not jump back in with both feet.  You can still do everything you did before you found out you had asthma.  Only now you need to make sure you keep an inhaler on you at all times, and that you track you PFM numbers so that you can head off a serious episode before it gets into full swing.  Remember: Asthma does not control you, you control it. One challenge I am  facing is that I have never had asthma before two weeks ago.  It is humbling, and frightening.  And the questions are endless, it seems.  I am sitting here near tears right now.  Does the question "WHY ME?" ever cross anyone else’s lips? I know I have to get proactive with this, and I will.  I still feel kind of in  shock.  As for seeing an allergist (some may recall, they made my appointment  for JULY 7!), I will call in the morning to get in right away, or find another one that WILL get me right in.  I will also inquire about asthma support groups  through my HMO – management tips, etc.

Please visit this site and download the guide, it’s free.  It’s 60 pages, so make sure you have enough ink in the printer.  This guide will bring you up to date on everything you want or need to know about asthma.  It is the most informative guide I have ever ran across.  It will explain how to control, medicate, and live with asthma.   http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/nhlbi/lung/asthma/prof/practgde.htm I am scared.  And numb.  And tired tired tired.  And my tummy hurts from the drugs.  Thanks for letting me vent (no pun intended). -Joopie

  These are all normal feeling when you have just been through such a frightening episode.  The meds bother my son’s tummy too.  I hope you are feeling better real soon.  Good Luck and remember the golden rule: YOU CONTROL ASTHMA, IT DOESN’T CONTROL YOU. Karen

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I know how you feel…I have been through that. Please do get your Ventolin inhaler as soon as possible. That’s one inhaler you do not want to be without! I have one at home, one in the glove compartment of the car and one that I always carry with me. I also had one at the office (before I retired). Yves Dussault

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(although today I am supposed to do 2 puffs every two hours).  And my rescue inhaler – Ventolin – if needed (I forgot to get a refill today – will call tomorrow).

My recomendation is to get two.  I always have an unopened inhaler available ‘just in case’.  Another trick I have done is registered a prescription with the Sav-On pharmicies.  They keep prescriptions on a national database so no matter where I am, I can get a refill. I am very tired.  Shaky from the drugs.  Generally fatigued.  I don’t know if it’s from the drugs or the attack(s).

Probably both.  An asthma attack is hard work.  Also you are losing sleep which dosen”t help any. One challenge I am  facing is that I have never had asthma before two weeks ago.  It is humbling, and frightening.  And the questions are endless, it seems.  I am sitting here near tears right now.  Does the question "WHY ME?" ever cross anyone else’s lips?

At one time or another it has crossed every on of our lips.  Discovering that you have a chronic illness is not a plesant event.  We all find ways of dealing with it – my way was to learn everything I possible could about the disease.  Asthma scares me and the more I learn the more I feel like I am in control. As for the answer to the question: "Why me?" There is a saying in the military that provides the best answer we are likley to get: "Life is not fair." I know I have to get proactive with this, and I will.  I still feel kind of in shock.  As for seeing an allergist (some may recall, they made my appointment for JULY 7!), I will call in the morning to get in right away, or find another one that WILL get me right in.  I will also inquire about asthma support groups through my HMO – management tips, etc.

Call them and insist on seeing a doctor within the next two days.  Tell them that you have had to go to the emergency room twice and the ER docs say that you need to see an asthma doctor _right now_. If your HOM has any sense they will get you to a doctor asap – every ER visit of yours cost them about a thousand bucks.  Keeping you healthy is _much_ cheaper. I am scared.  And numb.  And tired tired tired.  And my tummy hurts from the drugs.  Thanks for letting me vent (no pun intended).

We have all been there.  And will probably be there again.  Maybe someday you will be reassuring one of us. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –Joopie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I spent my Sunday morning in the ER again.  I did that on May 13, also.  But this time was different.  I was havinf nighttime trouble breathing, and woke up with the same thing.  Coughing, short of breath, shaky, somewhat panicky.  I decided maybe I should go to the Doc.  So I went to the ER.  And the Doc said I definately have asthma.  Called it bronchial asthma. My PFM was at about 200.  They put me on an IV cortisone treatment right then, and gave me a nebulizer (sp?) treatment.  They waited a while, then another nebulizer treatment.  After 2.5 hours, they sent me home, with a stop at the pharmacy.  I now have Promethazine with codiene cough syrup if I get going and can’t stop. (Laughing is a big no-no, I have been learning)  I also am on Predisone  - 60 mg. today, 55 mg. mg. tomorrow, 50 mg. Tuesday, etc. until done.  Amoxycillin – 500 mg 3x day.  And Azmacort inhaler – 6 puffs 2x day (although today I am supposed to do 2 puffs every two hours).  And my rescue inhaler – Ventolin – if needed (I forgot to get a refill today – will call tomorrow). I am very tired.  Shaky from the drugs.  Generally fatigued.  I don’t know if it’s from the drugs or the attack(s).  I asked if I could take today off work, and the doctor wrote out a work slip – he wants me off until Thursday.  We have a BIG special event at work on the weekend so I guess I’ll be doing some delegating from home.  It’ll be a real challenge to go back on Thursday and NOT try to jump in with both feet. One challenge I am  facing is that I have never had asthma before two weeks ago.  It is humbling, and frightening.  And the questions are endless, it seems.  I am sitting here near tears right now.  Does the question "WHY ME?" ever cross anyone else’s lips?

Definitely.  I had a somewhat similar experience last December.  After jogging my first known asthma attack.  Went to ER too.   Went through an incredible hassle getting regular doc to get me on meds and take it seriously. Of course once I improved I quit all of the meds, which was a mistake. I didn’t talk to anyone about it.  It was a mistake cause some of the meds take a while to reach their full effectiveness and I could be in a better place now if I hadn’t stopped. I just didn’t want to accept I was asthmatic, you know?  It was just a flukey time in my life..blah blah blah. Unfortuntely wishing it doesn’t make it so.  Now I’m struggling with it again. I used my nebulizer 3 times today. I think I learned my lesson this time. But yea, I am so pissed at having this stupid thing. I absolutely hate it. I use visualization tapes custom made for me.  I’m hoping to overcome the asthma in this way and using the mind/body thing.  I did manage to get rid of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome that way. Anyhow, I remember how scary and draining the whole mess was right at the beginning.  I felt so unsafe for what seemed forever.  Until I got used to the not breathing well feeling.  And started to feel confident that wasn’t going to die before I could get medical treatment. I went on my first hike recently since the asthma came along.  It did have an effect on it, but at least I was able to go. And yes, I find asthma attacks very tiring. I found it comforting to find out that a lot, a lot of world class athletes are asthmatic. I know I have to get proactive with this, and I will.  I still feel kind of in shock.  As for seeing an allergist (some may recall, they made my appointment for JULY 7!), I will call in the morning to get in right away, or find another one that WILL get me right in.  I will also inquire about asthma support groups through my HMO – management tips, etc. I am scared.  And numb.  And tired tired tired.  And my tummy hurts from the drugs.  Thanks for letting me vent (no pun intended). -Joopie

Take care and hang in.  It does reach its own form of "normalcy" after a while. owl — ****** In order to reply via email, it is necessary to remove the ugh from the return address.  The ugh is not visible in the from field, but will appear if you attempt to answer using "reply". ******

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I spent my Sunday morning in the ER again.  I did that on May 13, also.  But this time was different.  I was havinf nighttime trouble breathing, and woke up with the same thing.  Coughing, short of breath, shaky, somewhat panicky.  I decided maybe I should go to the Doc.  So I went to the ER.  And the Doc said I definately have asthma.  Called it bronchial asthma. My PFM was at about 200.  They put me on an IV cortisone treatment right then, and gave me a nebulizer (sp?) treatment.  They waited a while, then another nebulizer treatment.  After 2.5 hours, they sent me home, with a stop at the pharmacy.  I now have Promethazine with codiene cough syrup if I get going and can’t stop. (Laughing is a big no-no, I have been learning)  I also am on Predisone  - 60 mg. today, 55 mg. mg. tomorrow, 50 mg. Tuesday, etc. until done.  Amoxycillin – 500 mg 3x day.  And Azmacort inhaler – 6 puffs 2x day (although today I am supposed to do 2 puffs every two hours).  And my rescue inhaler – Ventolin – if needed (I forgot to get a refill today – will call tomorrow). I am very tired.  Shaky from the drugs.  Generally fatigued.  I don’t know if it’s from the drugs or the attack(s).  I asked if I could take today off work, and the doctor wrote out a work slip – he wants me off until Thursday.  We have a BIG special event at work on the weekend so I guess I’ll be doing some delegating from home.  It’ll be a real challenge to go back on Thursday and NOT try to jump in with both feet. One challenge I am  facing is that I have never had asthma before two weeks ago.  It is humbling, and frightening.  And the questions are endless, it seems.  I am sitting here near tears right now.  Does the question "WHY ME?" ever cross anyone else’s lips? I know I have to get proactive with this, and I will.  I still feel kind of in shock.  As for seeing an allergist (some may recall, they made my appointment for JULY 7!), I will call in the morning to get in right away, or find another one that WILL get me right in.  I will also inquire about asthma support groups through my HMO – management tips, etc.   I am scared.  And numb.  And tired tired tired.  And my tummy hurts from the drugs.  Thanks for letting me vent (no pun intended). -Joopie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I spent my Sunday morning in the ER again.  I did that on May 13, also.  But this time was different.  I was havinf nighttime trouble breathing, and woke up with the same thing.  Coughing, short of breath, shaky, somewhat panicky.  I decided maybe I should go to the Doc.  So I went to the ER.  And the Doc said I definately have asthma.  Called it bronchial asthma. My PFM was at about 200.  They put me on an IV cortisone treatment right then, and gave me a nebulizer (sp?) treatment.  They waited a while, then another nebulizer treatment.  After 2.5 hours, they sent me home, with a stop at the pharmacy.  I now have Promethazine with codiene cough syrup if I get going and can’t stop. (Laughing is a big no-no, I have been learning)  I also am on Predisone  - 60 mg. today, 55 mg. mg. tomorrow, 50 mg. Tuesday, etc. until done.  Amoxycillin – 500 mg 3x day.  And Azmacort inhaler – 6 puffs 2x day (although today I am supposed to do 2 puffs every two hours).  And my rescue inhaler – Ventolin – if needed (I forgot to get a refill today – will call tomorrow). I am very tired.  Shaky from the drugs.  Generally fatigued.  I don’t know if it’s from the drugs or the attack(s).  I asked if I could take today off work, and the doctor wrote out a work slip – he wants me off until Thursday.  We have a BIG special event at work on the weekend so I guess I’ll be doing some delegating from home.  It’ll be a real challenge to go back on Thursday and NOT try to jump in with both feet. One challenge I am  facing is that I have never had asthma before two weeks ago.  It is humbling, and frightening.  And the questions are endless, it seems.  I am sitting here near tears right now.  Does the question "WHY ME?" ever cross anyone else’s lips? I know I have to get proactive with this, and I will.  I still feel kind of in shock.  As for seeing an allergist (some may recall, they made my appointment for JULY 7!), I will call in the morning to get in right away, or find another one that WILL get me right in.  I will also inquire about asthma support groups through my HMO – management tips, etc. I am scared.  And numb.  And tired tired tired.  And my tummy hurts from the drugs.  Thanks for letting me vent (no pun intended). -Joopie

Hi,It is a big shocker when you get hit with asthma without any warning but,believe me that too will pass.Mine started out of the blue due to pneumonia,then I had bronchial spasms, then they decided it left me with asthma.Yes,I asked, why me? I was down and out sick for 4 months thought I would never rebound took a good year to not feel tired,tired,tired all the time.It is little over 2 yrs now I am what is called maintained asthma.I take 2 puffs Atrovent in morn,and 2 puffs of Atrovent and 2 puffs Beclavent at night.I do very well and I just want to tell you it all takes time and patience.Yes,the shaky feeling is probably from the drugs,it will soon stop. You need to relax and try not to be upset cause this makes your condition worse. I truely know how you feel but, believe me you will get back to normal but,have asthma too.You will get to know what triggers your coughing,and attacks and how to stop or control them.I have been done in(thats what I call it)by pollen and up my inhalers to 4x a day.The Dr. told me try that first.It has worked for me.If it did not then go into the Dr.I wish you much luck and know you are not alone with this.Try to stay informed on the asthma and try your best to relax cause sometime we get what is called panic attacks from being so upset.Good luck.Leona

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