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Yes you may certainly have a strained muscle or a cracked rib. Quite by coincidence I just took my mom to the doctors today. She has been having a really bad time as of late with her asthma. She is also on many of the meds you are taking including prednisone which she has been on regularly for many years now. I don’t know if your doctor has made you aware that the regular use of steriods can cause osteoperosis. With osteo the chances for hairline fractures and cracked or broken bones are quite high. One of the reasons for her visit today was pain in her chest and back. The doctor told her she had a fractured rib. I think it would be a good idea to make a visit to your Doctor to find out for sure what the cause of your pain is. It could be a break or fracture or it could just be a strain but it’s always best to find out for sure.
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Is it possible to crack a rib during an asthma attack as a result of coughing so much and straining to breathe?
Yes it is possible because i did exactly that a few years back.
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I get the same thing but the Dr called it intercostal neuralgia, something about the coughing irritates the nerves in the lungs so bad that the slightest move or pressure can cause excruciating pain. All he did was give me pain killers and said it would take a few months to go away. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t seem to have the original message to reply to, so I am piggybacking on LST Bird’s reply. Yes you may certainly have a strained muscle or a cracked rib. <snipped for brevity only. Hope your mother is feeling better tonight Broken ribs are no fun at all. .. I think it would be a good idea to make a visit to your Doctor to find out for sure what the cause of your pain is. It could be a break or fracture or it could just be a strain but it’s always best to find out for sure. In extreme exacerbations that involve a lot of coughing (and especially if prednisone is also involved), I have sometimes had excruciating cramps in the rib muscles. (intercostals?) Out of nowhere, one set or another of these muscles will seize up in a severe spasm that almost takes my breath away. Nothing helps, not even stretching. After a couple of minutes (seems like hours) that muscle will gradually relax and then when it’s least expected another one will act up. AARGH! Emily
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Yes it is not only possible but common. — Good Luck, CBI, M.D.
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I don’t seem to have the original message to reply to, so I am piggybacking on LST Bird’s reply. Yes you may certainly have a strained muscle or a cracked rib.
<snipped for brevity only. Hope your mother is feeling better tonight Broken ribs are no fun at all. .. I think it would be a good idea to make a visit to your Doctor to find out for sure what the cause of your pain is. It could be a break or fracture or it could just be a strain but it’s always best to find out for sure.
In extreme exacerbations that involve a lot of coughing (and especially if prednisone is also involved), I have sometimes had excruciating cramps in the rib muscles. (intercostals?) Out of nowhere, one set or another of these muscles will seize up in a severe spasm that almost takes my breath away. Nothing helps, not even stretching. After a couple of minutes (seems like hours) that muscle will gradually relax and then when it’s least expected another one will act up. AARGH! Emily
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after a neb treatment. I was also having excruciating pain in my side, but ignored it because I couldn’t breathe. It still hurts quite a bit. I can’t laugh, cough, turn, breathe, etc without horrible pain. Is it possible to crack a rib during an asthma attack as a result of coughing so much and straining to breathe? TIA!
Yup! It has happened to me. Have your doctor check it out (but expect him to give you painkillers and advice to take it easy). Apparently doctors don’t worry too much about cracked ribs because they get better on thier own and the patient gets lots of feedback (pain) when they overdo things.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a question that may sound a bit far-fetched but I’m going to ask anyways! I’ve had asthma for about 12 years. I’ve been steroid (prednisone) dependant for the past 4 years (in addition to inhaled steroids…Flovent….Singulair, Serevent, Ventolin and nebulized albuterol…oh, and Zantac for acid reflux). My question….I was in the ER this past Sunday because I had a bad attack. I had been coughing all day but was hoping that the neb treatments would help and I could wait until Monday morning to see the allergist. I decided to go in after I watched my peak flow go down by 100 l/m in about 20 minutes after a neb treatment. I was also having excruciating pain in my side, but ignored it because I couldn’t breathe. It still hurts quite a bit. I can’t laugh, cough, turn, breathe, etc without horrible pain. Is it possible to crack a rib during an asthma attack as a result of coughing so much and straining to breathe? TIA! Missie Yeah, coughing can break a rib. The only treatment is pain killers. They gave me a bunch of Motrin (600 mg x3) when I fell off a ladder and cracked ribs. Turns out this could be dangerous since ibuprofen can cause asthma in some asthmatics. Initially I was given Tylenol with codeine. I learned how to hold my chest when I coughed, so it wouldn’t blow the cracked ribs apart. You could have your ribs x-rayed to verify it; I recommend it. They used to tape broken ribs–its not usually done now since it can cause the ribs to heal in a compressed position.
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Hi everyone, ..snipped……. Is it possible to crack a rib during an asthma attack as a result of coughing so much and straining to breathe? TIA!
…snipped… Missie
Hi Missie, You may have just strained your muscles and made them sore from the coughing. Sore chest muscles can be very painful. However, anything is possible so you should have it checked by your physician. Angela
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I decided to go in – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – after I watched my peak flow go down by 100 l/m in about 20 minutes after a neb treatment. I was also having excruciating pain in my side, but ignored it because I couldn’t breathe. It still hurts quite a bit. I can’t laugh, cough, turn, breathe, etc without horrible pain. Is it possible to crack a rib during an asthma attack as a result of coughing so much and straining to breathe? TIA! Missie Yeah, coughing can break a rib. The only treatment is pain killers. They gave me a bunch of Motrin (600 mg x3) when I fell off a ladder and cracked ribs. Turns out this could be dangerous since ibuprofen can cause asthma in some asthmatics. Initially I was given Tylenol with codeine. I learned how to hold my chest when I coughed, so it wouldn’t blow the cracked ribs apart. You could have your ribs x-rayed to verify it; I recommend it. They used to tape broken ribs–its not usually done now since it can cause the ribs to heal in a compressed position. But in some cases you can wear an elastic chest band, check with your doctor. Have you had a bone density test; oral steroids can cause osteoporosis; and breaking bones can be the first indication you have it.
I forgot to mention, a cracked rib can cause lung and breathing problems. When I fell off the ladder cracking 3 ribs, I ended up on ground with severe breathing problems. Fortunately had my Ventolin in my pocket and was able to use. Eventually I was able to drive to Urgent Care and get an x-ray and scrip for pain pills. The x-ray showed one lung was smaller under the cracked ribs (partially collapsed???) So get an x-ray. Note, a broken rib could puncture the lung but not very likely. Ellis
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I have a question that may sound a bit far-fetched but I’m going to ask anyways! I’ve had asthma for about 12 years. I’ve been steroid (prednisone) dependant for the past 4 years (in addition to inhaled steroids…Flovent….Singulair, Serevent, Ventolin and nebulized albuterol…oh, and Zantac for acid reflux). My question….I was in the ER this past Sunday because I had a bad attack. I had been coughing all day but was hoping that the neb treatments would help and I could wait until Monday morning to see the allergist. I decided to go in after I watched my peak flow go down by 100 l/m in about 20 minutes after a neb treatment. I was also having excruciating pain in my side, but ignored it because I couldn’t breathe. It still hurts quite a bit. I can’t laugh, cough, turn, breathe, etc without horrible pain. Is it possible to crack a rib during an asthma attack as a result of coughing so much and straining to breathe? TIA! Missie
Yeah, coughing can break a rib. The only treatment is pain killers. They gave me a bunch of Motrin (600 mg x3) when I fell off a ladder and cracked ribs. Turns out this could be dangerous since ibuprofen can cause asthma in some asthmatics. Initially I was given Tylenol with codeine. I learned how to hold my chest when I coughed, so it wouldn’t blow the cracked ribs apart. You could have your ribs x-rayed to verify it; I recommend it. They used to tape broken ribs–its not usually done now since it can cause the ribs to heal in a compressed position. But in some cases you can wear an elastic chest band, check with your doctor. Have you had a bone density test; oral steroids can cause osteoporosis; and breaking bones can be the first indication you have it. One of the main treatments for GERD is to elevate the head of the bead 6 in. with wood blocks. Have you been evaluated for Sinusitis. Often for steroid dependent cases like yours, its worth getting a 2nd opinion from National Jewish Center in Denver, on your asthma treatment. 800-222-LUNG www.njc.org Ellis
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Hi everyone, I have a question that may sound a bit far-fetched but I’m going to ask anyways! I’ve had asthma for about 12 years. I’ve been steroid (prednisone) dependant for the past 4 years (in addition to inhaled steroids…Flovent….Singulair, Serevent, Ventolin and nebulized albuterol…oh, and Zantac for acid reflux). My question….I was in the ER this past Sunday because I had a bad attack. I had been coughing all day but was hoping that the neb treatments would help and I could wait until Monday morning to see the allergist. I decided to go in after I watched my peak flow go down by 100 l/m in about 20 minutes after a neb treatment. I was also having excruciating pain in my side, but ignored it because I couldn’t breathe. It still hurts quite a bit. I can’t laugh, cough, turn, breathe, etc without horrible pain. Is it possible to crack a rib during an asthma attack as a result of coughing so much and straining to breathe? TIA! Missie
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you play this: —5— —-3– If you can’t tell what it is, the two notes are supposed to be played together. I’ve tried touching the two strings between them and strumming, but you hear more of the noise from hitting the muted strings than the actual notes. Anyone have any hints on how this should be played? First of all, you don’t have to strum it. You could play the lower note with the pick and simultaneously pick the upper note with your ring finger. Remember, when using a pick you still have three free right-hand fingers to work with. Seeing as how this is John Frusciante, I’m willing to bet that it is fingerpicked.
Well then it wouldn’t even be an issue. Nonetheless, it’s good to know how to do stuff like that with a pick too, because you can. So, to answer the original question: Yes. It’s possible with a pick or without. Josh
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Yes! The singing bit is hard since it doesn’t really follow the tune! I’m glad I’m not the only one. I thought it was just me!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – class song!! It is finger picked if you listen to the song (which i strongly recommend doing if you havent already) its a really hard rhythm (i find) to get goin with. And then singin on top of it….thats gonna take song practice!!!!! —5— —-3– If you can’t tell what it is, the two notes are supposed to be played together. I’ve tried touching the two strings between them and strumming, but you hear more of the noise from hitting the muted strings than the actual notes. Anyone have any hints on how this should be played? In case it’s important it’s from Scar Tissue by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Thanks in advance, Matt
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class song!! It is finger picked if you listen to the song (which i strongly recommend doing if you havent already) its a really hard rhythm (i find) to get goin with. And then singin on top of it….thats gonna take song practice!!!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – —5— —-3– If you can’t tell what it is, the two notes are supposed to be played together. I’ve tried touching the two strings between them and strumming, but you hear more of the noise from hitting the muted strings than the actual notes. Anyone have any hints on how this should be played? In case it’s important it’s from Scar Tissue by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Thanks in advance, Matt
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The only way to play this song is to fingerpick. It’s easy fingerpicking though, play the bass with your thum amd the treble with your ring finger. Since the treble is mostly on the secong string (b) practice alternating you fingers between ring, middle, and index.. Also it’s easier to play at the 8th fret.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you play this: —5— —-3– If you can’t tell what it is, the two notes are supposed to be played together. I’ve tried touching the two strings between them and strumming, but you hear more of the noise from hitting the muted strings than the actual notes. Anyone have any hints on how this should be played? In case it’s important it’s from Scar Tissue by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Thanks in advance, Matt
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How do you play this: —5— —-3– If you can’t tell what it is, the two notes are supposed to be played together. I’ve tried touching the two strings between them and strumming, but you hear more of the noise from hitting the muted strings than the actual notes. Anyone have any hints on how this should be played?
There’s a number of ways. First of all, you don’t have to "strum" it. You could play the lower note with the pick and simultaneously pick the upper note with your ring finger. Or, if strumming is an absolute necessity, you could deaden the middle strings in a number of ways. I think the best way would be to fret the lower note with your index finger and use that finger to hang down over the middle strings and deaden them. Fret the upper note with your ring finger. I tried it this way and it works. If you can’t get it to work use the first method. Remember, you still have three free fingers on your right hand, in addition to the pick. Josh Before you buy.
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How do you play this: —5— —-3– If you can’t tell what it is, the two notes are supposed to be played together. I’ve tried touching the two strings between them and strumming, but you hear more of the noise from hitting the muted strings than the actual notes. Anyone have any hints on how this should be played?
Since you didn’t say which string is the low E and which is the high e, I’m assuming that the "3" is the low C on the A string, and the "5" is the E on the B string. There’s a number of ways. First of all, you don’t have to strum it. You could play the lower note with the pick and simultaneously pick the upper note with your ring finger. Remember, when using a pick you still have three free right-hand fingers to work with. Or, if strumming is an absolute necessity, you could deaden the middle strings in a number of ways. I think the best way would be to fret the lower note with your index finger and use that finger to hang down over the middle strings and deaden them. Fret the upper note with your ring finger. I tried it this way and it works. If you can’t get it to work use the first method. Josh Before you buy.
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How do you play this: —5— —-3– If you can’t tell what it is, the two notes are supposed to be played together. I’ve tried touching the two strings between them and strumming, but you hear more of the noise from hitting the muted strings than the actual notes. Anyone have any hints on how this should be played? In case it’s important it’s from Scar Tissue by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Thanks in advance, Matt
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Julie Bove scribbled these tid bits Are you off your rocker? We’ve chased that idiot fake Dr. off this NG more times than I care to remember. And now you invite him back?
On the nose… — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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Hey, Chung, add one more to your list of libellous posters. Hope her attorney is better than ole Ben-soon-to-be-out-$10,000. Are you off your rocker? We’ve chased that idiot fake Dr. off this NG more times than I care to remember. And now you invite him back?
"Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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Post this to sci.med.cardiology where Dr. Chung can give you an educated, medical answer. Better yet since USENET is not secure ask your own doctor.
Anything would be better than taking the advice of a bunch of fanatics like you and your Ruffie who have self-proclaimed themselves superior to the entire medical and research community when it comes to diabetes. "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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///MU scribbled these tid bits Anything would be better than taking the advice of a bunch of fanatics like you and your Ruffie who have self-proclaimed themselves superior to the entire medical and research community when it comes to diabetes.
Please post proof that "I" have said anything of the kind. To quote you, "put up or shut up" — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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///MU scribbled these tid bits Anything would be better than taking the advice of a bunch of fanatics like you and your Ruffie who have self-proclaimed themselves superior to the entire medical and research community when it comes to diabetes. Please post proof that "I" have said anything of the kind. To quote you, "put up or shut up"
Post proof. Here, have at it world. www.google.com Google Ronnie Ruff and read all you want about how he believes he knows more about diabetes than the med and research community. Hey Ruff, you know more about diabetes than Dr. Chung, right? Want me to Google it where you said so? Have you seen this one? "Chung boy, you are one stupid mother fucker. But then, my daddy Your a fuckin idiot doing nothing more than lying and ripping off decent people. But then again, if all these people are really buying That one got your butt kicked off your ISP. "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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Hey, Chung, add one more to your list of libellous posters. Hope her attorney is better than ole Ben-soon-to-be-out-$10,000.
*string of curse words muttered* How many times must I kill file you? — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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*string of curse words muttered* How many times must I kill file you?
You asking me like I care? "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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///MU scribbled these tid bits That one got your butt kicked off your ISP.
Prove it. I have had the same ISP since I have been on line. BTW, W/O headers your proof means nothing. Anyone can write a jumble of words and call it proof. What will you be next week troll !!!MU or ###MU or ^^^MU ? No I don’t bother to KF you because you amuse me. — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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Julie Bove scribbled these tid bits *string of curse words muttered* How many times must I kill file you?
You can’t Julie.. He like most trolls changes his name by only a special charactor or two so that he can be assured all see his words. It is his only way to get attention. If you respond to a post of his then ignore him it drives him crazy and he will then post ever increasingly vulgar and obnoxious things hoping to get you to reply again. — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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That one got your butt kicked off your ISP. Prove it. I have had the same ISP since I have been on line.
Sure have. The same one who kicked you off was happy to have you repay the upfront fee and take your money all over again. "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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///MU scribbled these tid bits Prove it. I have had the same ISP since I have been on line. Sure have. The same one who kicked you off was happy to have you repay the upfront fee and take your money all over again.
Again, proove it. I have had the account since I worked for them years ago. Started out as Erols Internet, now RCN-Starpower. BTW why not clue Julie in on your next name change in advance so her KF continues to work? — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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Sure have. The same one who kicked you off was happy to have you repay the upfront fee and take your money all over again. Again, proove it. I have had the account since I worked for them years ago. Started out as Erols Internet, now RCN-Starpower.
Yep, that’s them. The ones who shitcanned you when I complained about your Usenet trolling (posting as the real Dr. chung is what did you in…..naughty, naughty…and then the threatening emails you sent to me almost got your ass prosecuted. "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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Hey, Chung, add one more to your list of libellous posters. Hope her attorney is better than ole Ben-soon-to-be-out-$10,000. Are you off your rocker? We’ve chased that idiot fake Dr. off this NG more times than I care to remember. And now you invite him back? "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
Anybody know how to get rid of this lowlife SOB? Evertime I put him in my killfile he adds something new to his name so I still have to see his f*&cking posts.
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///MU scribbled these tid bits Yep, that’s them. The ones who shitcanned you when I complained about your Usenet trolling (posting as the real Dr. chung is what did you in…..naughty, naughty…and then the threatening emails you sent to me almost got your ass prosecuted.
LOL!! You need to get into writing for a living. Fantasy books sell well now. Oh well I have given you the pleasure of a few responses and I don’t wish to get you to overly worked up so bye for now. Maybe we can talk again in a few months. Until then stay happy ///MU — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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Mrs. or Mr. Perry scribbled these tid bits Anybody know how to get rid of this lowlife SOB? Evertime I put him in my killfile he adds something new to his name so I still have to see his f*&cking posts.
Awww.. just ignore him if he gets too overboard. I should not have replied today. We all screw up sometimes 
I don’t KF him though, it is a waste of time.. At least the MU part of his name is constant, for now at least. — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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Anybody know how to get rid of this lowlife SOB?
Ruff? Shoot him in the head. Evertime I put him in my killfile he adds something new to his name so I still have to see his f*&cking posts.
Is it Mr. or Mrs. Perry that is too stupid to spell fucking? "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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/MU scribbled these tid bits Is this possible? What is going on? Why would bypass surgery improve blood glucose levels? Post this to sci.med.cardiology where Dr. Chung can give you an educated, medical answer.
Better yet since USENET is not secure ask your own doctor. — http://www.livejournal.com/users/ronnie_in_dc (IPs recorded on messageboard posters) RR~ There is no place like ~/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My friends husband was diagnosed with diabetes. He was put on insulin. About 3 months later he had a heart attack. Then another and then 3 weeks ago he had a 5X bypass surgery. After getting out of the hospital she said they took him off his insulin and his bgs have been normal ever since, well, except when he eats a really high carb meal. She said he can eat donuts and his bg still is under 120. Is this possible? What is going on? Why would bypass surgery improve blood glucose levels? Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
I have no idea why, but if he starts eating donuts again he can look forward to hear problems again. They are loaded with trans-fat. May as well eat straight Criso, flour, and sugar. It’s the same thing. Maybe the improved circulation lowered his insulin resistance. Personally, I think he’s playing with fire eating like that. He’s using up his chances of repair pretty quickly. c
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Since this is a question about diabetes, why doesn’t Chung come here to answer the question?
Are you off your rocker? We’ve chased that idiot fake Dr. off this NG more times than I care to remember. And now you invite him back? — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
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Post this to sci.med.cardiology where Dr. Chung can give you an educated, medical answer. Since this is a question about diabetes, why doesn’t Chung come here to answer the question?
Why don’t you go over and invite him to? Or email him. "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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My friends husband was diagnosed with diabetes. He was put on insulin. About 3 months later he had a heart attack. Then another and then 3 weeks ago he had a 5X bypass surgery. After getting out of the hospital she said they took him off his insulin and his bgs have been normal ever since, well, except when he eats a really high carb meal. She said he can eat donuts and his bg still is under 120. Is this possible? What is going on? Why would bypass surgery improve blood glucose levels? Post this to sci.med.cardiology where Dr. Chung can give you an educated, medical answer.
only if you want a known usenet troll dispensing medical advice. chung a troll. Mu is a chung sock puppet. Mack Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
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Yes, this is possible. My step-mom had 5 bypass and went off insulin. ( she passed away 10 yrs ago from a blood clot) The reason for the possibilty is that the blood is flowing much better and the internal organs are working. Ira T2
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My friends husband was diagnosed with diabetes. He was put on insulin. About 3 months later he had a heart attack. Then another and then 3 weeks ago he had a 5X bypass surgery. After getting out of the hospital she said they took him off his insulin and his bgs have been normal ever since, well, except when he eats a really high carb meal. She said he can eat donuts and his bg still is under 120. Is this possible? What is going on? Why would bypass surgery improve blood glucose levels? Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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Is this possible? What is going on? Why would bypass surgery improve blood glucose levels? Post this to sci.med.cardiology where Dr. Chung can give you an educated, medical answer.
Since this is a question about diabetes, why doesn’t Chung come here to answer the question? E
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My friends husband was diagnosed with diabetes. He was put on insulin. About 3 months later he had a heart attack. Then another and then 3 weeks ago he had a 5X bypass surgery. After getting out of the hospital she said they took him off his insulin and his bgs have been normal ever since, well, except when he eats a really high carb meal. She said he can eat donuts and his bg still is under 120. Is this possible? What is going on? Why would bypass surgery improve blood glucose levels?
Post this to sci.med.cardiology where Dr. Chung can give you an educated, medical answer. "Live To Eat? Nyet. Eat To Live!" http://www.protraineronline.com/
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My friends husband was diagnosed with diabetes. He was put on insulin. About 3 months later he had a heart attack. Then another and then 3 weeks ago he had a 5X bypass surgery. After getting out of the hospital she said they took him off his insulin and his bgs have been normal ever since, well, except when he eats a really high carb meal. She said he can eat donuts and his bg still is under 120. Is this possible? What is going on? Why would bypass surgery improve blood glucose levels? Dana "Live as though there is no tomorrow, Love as though you have never been hurt, Dance as if no one is looking…" Satchel Paige
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