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On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:53:04 -0700, the world was enlightented by Carl Propst, unto whom the words are attributed: > Yes, after I submitted my last post, I realized I forgot to answer > Chloe’s question about Farscape. It was a TV series on the SCI FI > Channel in the United States. Commander John Creighton gets shot

Well, glad I know more of how it starts – I missed the first couple of episodes.  So it’s a US series, not Brit or Aussie as I thought, then? Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster (r…@localhost.localdomain) writes: > On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:23:11 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore > Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: >> Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, >> but I think I never heard of it:? > British space opera (though now I think about it, could be Aussie) – guy > get’s washed up in a living space ship with a bunch of alien refugees > after falling through a wormhole while piloting an experimental craft – > they all go wizzing off all over space running from super-bad guys, gets > chip implanted in brain by super-bad guys, who use it to follow them > everywhere, meet lots of different alien characters, add some to crew > ship.  Watched it avidly for many episodes, missed a few and then last I > saw was only about 30 seconds of an episode where guy had top of his skull > cut off and a plastic dome there, super bad-guy in chief gloating very > gloatingly. Don’t know any after that. Anyone want to fill me in?  It was > pretty good, though.

Odd I never ehard of it. Must have been in the decade I coudl not even follow anything, the rbain flyign in all directions… C  > > Mosnter > — > I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy > All the girls love me > And I will never grow Ooollldd > I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! > http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster <r…@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message <news:7c191653391c3c9920c2aa49deab3cad@news.teranews.com>… > On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:23:11 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore > Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: > > Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, > > but I think I never heard of it:? > British space opera (though now I think about it, could be Aussie) – guy > get’s washed up in a living space ship with a bunch of alien refugees > after falling through a wormhole while piloting an experimental craft – > they all go wizzing off all over space running from super-bad guys, gets > chip implanted in brain by super-bad guys, who use it to follow them > everywhere, meet lots of different alien characters, add some to crew > ship.  Watched it avidly for many episodes, missed a few and then last I > saw was only about 30 seconds of an episode where guy had top of his skull > cut off and a plastic dome there, super bad-guy in chief gloating very > gloatingly. Don’t know any after that. Anyone want to fill me in?  It was > pretty good, though. > Mosnter

Yes, after I submitted my last post, I realized I forgot to answer Chloe’s question about Farscape. It was a TV series on the SCI FI Channel in the United States. Commander John Creighton gets shot through a wormhole while conducting experiments about wormholes. His craft is named Farscape. His ship accidentally strikes an alien ship and destroys it. The ship is commanded by the brother of Creis who seeks revenge for the death of his brother. Creighton is pulled into the living ship "Moya" which carries escaped prisoners aboard. That’s how the series began. The plot continues where Creighton is looking for a way home. Others learn of his wormhole technology and literally gets into his head for information. This is done by "Scorpius". There are numerous other characters that end up on "Moya" and come and go. I haven’t watched all the episodes myself. I’m just now starting to become interested in Farscape. There is a fan club following that wants to bring back the series on the SCI FI Channel here in the states. Carl

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On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:23:11 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: > Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, > but I think I never heard of it:?

British space opera (though now I think about it, could be Aussie) – guy get’s washed up in a living space ship with a bunch of alien refugees after falling through a wormhole while piloting an experimental craft – they all go wizzing off all over space running from super-bad guys, gets chip implanted in brain by super-bad guys, who use it to follow them everywhere, meet lots of different alien characters, add some to crew ship.  Watched it avidly for many episodes, missed a few and then last I saw was only about 30 seconds of an episode where guy had top of his skull cut off and a plastic dome there, super bad-guy in chief gloating very gloatingly. Don’t know any after that. Anyone want to fill me in?  It was pretty good, though. Mosnter — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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Hi Carl! I am falling asleep by the second tonight…..Ad I donlt want to asnwer you with my sleepy brain on again, nah! So will try and do later, after I get some shut eye….’K? Later, Chloe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: > bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in message <news:c8crmv$5hp$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>… >> Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: >> > I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try >> > to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did >> > wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things >> > together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a >> > few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be >> > done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, >> > hurt, and other painful emotions. >> Yeah…Complicated stuff. >> I smetimes think the other wants to give it a year break as he does >> sporadically with friends. However, I’m an odd one. Things unresolved of >> *that* nature leave me with …things unresolved of that nature. >> There was a year break in the past for soemthign other but yet similar. >> And while I thought he ahd resolved that one episode during four of the >> five eyars, the fifth made me see more and more things tagged on me that >> stemmed from the first tag of years ago. >> From seing me a certain way in his mind, he built more and more around it, >> until it was less and less me anymore he exchange with. >> I shoudl have listened to ntuition and just make myself more rare at the >> time where obviously he lived things outside the friendship that affected >> his judgement by affecting his emotions….An iffy relating with a female >> friend of his, namely, creating ups and downs and tensions in him that >> woudl end up splattered on me. And through that again, he went on building >> and building and building, like a brain washed one. >> Try as one may, the word that try will be read through the filter and >> moods related to the outside stuff affecting the other, and well, yeah, it >> gets to be useless… >> > At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having >> > bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just >> > gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love >> > very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced >> > me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of >> > this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 >> > disaster which severely affected any work with computers. >> Hm. all those events that coincided makes one wonder if you were wrongly >> diagnosed? I mean, with all that happeneing to me at once, I;d be >> diagnozed much worse stuff I am sure!! That is a LOT to face all at once… >> > I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I >> > believe I am around your age. >> Did the asthma start about that time or was it there before? >>  I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. >> When in September? I am the nineth. >>  My >> > hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI >> > FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits >> > from the 1960’s. >> I used to watch the outer limits as a kid, but then…forgot all of it. I >> sometimes now catch a remake episode or one of the old ones, as I switch >> tv channels to find something…. >> Can’t say I know it well though. >> Stargate even less, if I saw the movie of course. >> Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, >> but I think I never heard of it:? >>  I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her >> > movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" >> > in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never >> > able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. >> > She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance >> > drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There >> > were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. >> > However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was >> > more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could >> > not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive >> > as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to >> > Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I >> > believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting >> > being a mother now. >> I tjink I never saw dirty dancing, or caught a part of it only, maybe, as >> rings a very faint bell, if the name of it of course stayed. >> But I coudl not remember a thing of it for the life of me. Sorry, bad >> memory with stories of movies and books….:( on top of the title. All >> that remains is the feelign I lived as I watched or read them…which can >> have nothign to do with the movie or book itself. >> Eg: Dirty dancing. I thik it was raining that day…I was bored and >> switching statiosn to find somethign to watch and fell on soemthign I >> watched caught in the middle. At the end I caught it had been dirty >> dancing. But what was in it? Not one clue… >> Must be nice to have some actress/actor one is fond of and follows this way… >> I never really had a favorite actor, if I for a whiel thougyht I woudl in >> Harrisson Ford. But he lost his aura when he started his midlife crisis a >> la so childish, leavign his wife and tryign desperately to look and sound >> 20ish…The sort of innocence image he ahd took a dive…The "mystic" was >> broken. The lil carpenter he managed to be remembered he had been suddenly >> was a holliwood star like so mnay others… >> Posh life, fast lane and gosip papers front page with a young babe… >> Some men really make fools of themself when image was all they lived by >> until they started losing the looks. >> To hear him talk about another Indiana Jones with him in it in interviews >> feels odd….Almost feels sad. >> But what do I know. Maybe he endured a witchy wife for decades. >> Just the same…What can I say, he lost his interest, and feel right in >> with many others of the Holliwood kind… >> Eeek! 7:21!! Must hit the shower soon, 20 mins ago!! >> Have a great day, Carl, and catch ya later, >> Chloe >> > Carl >> Hi Chloe, My birthday is September 24th. So we were born pretty > close together. I don’t know about the age part though. About the > bipolar disorder, previously I was diagnosed with just depression. I > was treated for that and then I would then swing to being mania. I > have heard that it takes many years to come up with the proper > diagnosis. Once you treat depression, then the mania may surface. > Which of course, happened to me. Just something that I live with. I am > being treated for it and I’m much better than I was almost 3 years > ago. > I know what you mean about actors and actresses wanting to stay in the > limelight. Take Jennifer Grey for example. The reason she got the nose > job was because she has a Jewish nose. She wanted to change her plain > appearance (in her eyes) and become more Hollywood. Unfortunately, > that plan failed. I do have pictures of her before and after her > operation and she is still very attractive I believe. > Carl

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I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, hurt, and other painful emotions. At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 disaster which severely affected any work with computers. I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I believe I am around your age. I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. My hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits from the 1960’s. I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting being a mother now. Carl

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In article <aed42ec1.0405172233.38bf5…@posting.google.com>, carlp…@sbcglobal.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try >to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did >wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things >together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a >few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be >done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, >hurt, and other painful emotions. >At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having >bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just >gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love >very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced >me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of >this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 >disaster which severely affected any work with computers. >I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I >believe I am around your age. I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. My >hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI >FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits >from the 1960’s. I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her >movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" >in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never >able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. >She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance >drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There >were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. >However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was >more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could >not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive >as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to >Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I >believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting >being a mother now. >Carl

For asthma – try Oralmat, which is a herbal asthma treatment, from ryegrass? Some people have had great results with it. It was in the news – via Australia, maybe it’s available in your drugstore? Harvey

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in message <news:c8crmv$5hp$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>… > Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: > > I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try > > to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did > > wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things > > together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a > > few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be > > done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, > > hurt, and other painful emotions. > Yeah…Complicated stuff. > I smetimes think the other wants to give it a year break as he does > sporadically with friends. However, I’m an odd one. Things unresolved of > *that* nature leave me with …things unresolved of that nature. > There was a year break in the past for soemthign other but yet similar. > And while I thought he ahd resolved that one episode during four of the > five eyars, the fifth made me see more and more things tagged on me that > stemmed from the first tag of years ago. > From seing me a certain way in his mind, he built more and more around it, > until it was less and less me anymore he exchange with. > I shoudl have listened to ntuition and just make myself more rare at the > time where obviously he lived things outside the friendship that affected > his judgement by affecting his emotions….An iffy relating with a female > friend of his, namely, creating ups and downs and tensions in him that > woudl end up splattered on me. And through that again, he went on building > and building and building, like a brain washed one. > Try as one may, the word that try will be read through the filter and > moods related to the outside stuff affecting the other, and well, yeah, it > gets to be useless… > > At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having > > bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just > > gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love > > very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced > > me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of > > this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 > > disaster which severely affected any work with computers. > Hm. all those events that coincided makes one wonder if you were wrongly > diagnosed? I mean, with all that happeneing to me at once, I;d be > diagnozed much worse stuff I am sure!! That is a LOT to face all at once… > > I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I > > believe I am around your age. > Did the asthma start about that time or was it there before? >  I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. > When in September? I am the nineth. >  My > > hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI > > FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits > > from the 1960’s. > I used to watch the outer limits as a kid, but then…forgot all of it. I > sometimes now catch a remake episode or one of the old ones, as I switch > tv channels to find something…. > Can’t say I know it well though. > Stargate even less, if I saw the movie of course. > Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, > but I think I never heard of it:? >  I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her > > movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" > > in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never > > able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. > > She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance > > drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There > > were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. > > However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was > > more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could > > not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive > > as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to > > Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I > > believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting > > being a mother now. > I tjink I never saw dirty dancing, or caught a part of it only, maybe, as > rings a very faint bell, if the name of it of course stayed. > But I coudl not remember a thing of it for the life of me. Sorry, bad > memory with stories of movies and books….:( on top of the title. All > that remains is the feelign I lived as I watched or read them…which can > have nothign to do with the movie or book itself. > Eg: Dirty dancing. I thik it was raining that day…I was bored and > switching statiosn to find somethign to watch and fell on soemthign I > watched caught in the middle. At the end I caught it had been dirty > dancing. But what was in it? Not one clue… > Must be nice to have some actress/actor one is fond of and follows this way… > I never really had a favorite actor, if I for a whiel thougyht I woudl in > Harrisson Ford. But he lost his aura when he started his midlife crisis a > la so childish, leavign his wife and tryign desperately to look and sound > 20ish…The sort of innocence image he ahd took a dive…The "mystic" was > broken. The lil carpenter he managed to be remembered he had been suddenly > was a holliwood star like so mnay others… > Posh life, fast lane and gosip papers front page with a young babe… > Some men really make fools of themself when image was all they lived by > until they started losing the looks. > To hear him talk about another Indiana Jones with him in it in interviews > feels odd….Almost feels sad. > But what do I know. Maybe he endured a witchy wife for decades. > Just the same…What can I say, he lost his interest, and feel right in > with many others of the Holliwood kind… > Eeek! 7:21!! Must hit the shower soon, 20 mins ago!! > Have a great day, Carl, and catch ya later, > Chloe > > Carl > Hi Chloe, My birthday is September 24th. So we were born pretty

close together. I don’t know about the age part though. About the bipolar disorder, previously I was diagnosed with just depression. I was treated for that and then I would then swing to being mania. I have heard that it takes many years to come up with the proper diagnosis. Once you treat depression, then the mania may surface. Which of course, happened to me. Just something that I live with. I am being treated for it and I’m much better than I was almost 3 years ago. I know what you mean about actors and actresses wanting to stay in the limelight. Take Jennifer Grey for example. The reason she got the nose job was because she has a Jewish nose. She wanted to change her plain appearance (in her eyes) and become more Hollywood. Unfortunately, that plan failed. I do have pictures of her before and after her operation and she is still very attractive I believe. Carl

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Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: > I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try > to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did > wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things > together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a > few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be > done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, > hurt, and other painful emotions.

Yeah…Complicated stuff. I smetimes think the other wants to give it a year break as he does sporadically with friends. However, I’m an odd one. Things unresolved of *that* nature leave me with …things unresolved of that nature. There was a year break in the past for soemthign other but yet similar. And while I thought he ahd resolved that one episode during four of the five eyars, the fifth made me see more and more things tagged on me that stemmed from the first tag of years ago. From seing me a certain way in his mind, he built more and more around it, until it was less and less me anymore he exchange with. I shoudl have listened to ntuition and just make myself more rare at the time where obviously he lived things outside the friendship that affected his judgement by affecting his emotions….An iffy relating with a female friend of his, namely, creating ups and downs and tensions in him that woudl end up splattered on me. And through that again, he went on building and building and building, like a brain washed one. Try as one may, the word that try will be read through the filter and moods related to the outside stuff affecting the other, and well, yeah, it gets to be useless…  > > At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having > bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just > gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love > very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced > me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of > this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 > disaster which severely affected any work with computers.

Hm. all those events that coincided makes one wonder if you were wrongly diagnosed? I mean, with all that happeneing to me at once, I;d be diagnozed much worse stuff I am sure!! That is a LOT to face all at once…  > > I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I > believe I am around your age.

Did the asthma start about that time or was it there before?  I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. When in September? I am the nineth.  My > hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI > FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits > from the 1960’s.

I used to watch the outer limits as a kid, but then…forgot all of it. I sometimes now catch a remake episode or one of the old ones, as I switch tv channels to find something…. Can’t say I know it well though. Stargate even less, if I saw the movie of course. Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, but I think I never heard of it:?  I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her > movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" > in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never > able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. > She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance > drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There > were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. > However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was > more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could > not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive > as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to > Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I > believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting > being a mother now.

I tjink I never saw dirty dancing, or caught a part of it only, maybe, as rings a very faint bell, if the name of it of course stayed. But I coudl not remember a thing of it for the life of me. Sorry, bad memory with stories of movies and books….:( on top of the title. All that remains is the feelign I lived as I watched or read them…which can have nothign to do with the movie or book itself. Eg: Dirty dancing. I thik it was raining that day…I was bored and switching statiosn to find somethign to watch and fell on soemthign I watched caught in the middle. At the end I caught it had been dirty dancing. But what was in it? Not one clue… Must be nice to have some actress/actor one is fond of and follows this way… I never really had a favorite actor, if I for a whiel thougyht I woudl in Harrisson Ford. But he lost his aura when he started his midlife crisis a la so childish, leavign his wife and tryign desperately to look and sound 20ish…The sort of innocence image he ahd took a dive…The "mystic" was broken. The lil carpenter he managed to be remembered he had been suddenly was a holliwood star like so mnay others… Posh life, fast lane and gosip papers front page with a young babe… Some men really make fools of themself when image was all they lived by until they started losing the looks. To hear him talk about another Indiana Jones with him in it in interviews feels odd….Almost feels sad. But what do I know. Maybe he endured a witchy wife for decades. Just the same…What can I say, he lost his interest, and feel right in with many others of the Holliwood kind… Eeek! 7:21!! Must hit the shower soon, 20 mins ago!! Have a great day, Carl, and catch ya later, Chloe  > > Carl

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    Have never used Flovent.  Getting no bruises from Pulmicort but have only been using this for a few months.  You folks might  switch, see what happens.  Both of these drugs seem to be on the "cutting edge" in asthma treatment.

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    Have never used Flovent.  Getting no bruises from Pulmicort but have only been using this for a few months.  You folks might  switch, see what happens.  Both of these drugs seem to be on the "cutting edge" in asthma treatment.

I was on Flovent for 6 months then went onto Pulmicort (800 mg daily) and I do have the bruising problem.  I have also used Prednisone but not within the past year.  I could easily flick my finger against my arm and a buise would appear.  My legs and arms are always riddled with bruises.  I’ve also noticed that my skin breaks easier than it used to but I can breath.  One concern given a couple of severe bruises lately, is I heard of two deaths recently where blood clots from bruises had broken and travelled to lungs and/or brain causing death.

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That’s interesting. I also am on 800MG/day Pulmicort. I have not had any problems with bruising, though, except when I was also using oral pred. The bruises were quite legitimate too, involving contact between my hands and some hard steel surfaces. The bruises were more copious than I would have expected, however, were a reddish, rather than purple color, and have just begun to fade away after a bit over a month. I do not have bruises elsewhere. My skin does seem more fragile. I had rather considered the thinning skin as a factor of aging (I am 58). Boyd — "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity." (Ellen Parr- author)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     Have never used Flovent.  Getting no bruises from Pulmicort but have only been using this for a few months.  You folks might  switch, see what happens.  Both of these drugs seem to be on the "cutting edge" in asthma treatment. I was on Flovent for 6 months then went onto Pulmicort (800 mg daily) and I do have the bruising problem.  I have also used Prednisone but not within the past year.  I could easily flick my finger against my arm and a buise would appear.  My legs and arms are always riddled with bruises.  I’ve also noticed that my skin breaks easier than it used to but I can breath.  One concern given a couple of severe bruises lately, is I heard of two deaths recently where blood clots from bruises had broken and travelled to lungs and/or brain causing death.

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Not only that, but over time the skin becomes more thin and fragile and easily torn. The slightest bump against a corner, for instance, will often produce a small tear of the skin rather than a bruise. I think this is not entirely reversible; at least for me it hasn’t improved much during those periods when I’m not taking prednisone.

It probed reversible for me.  I’m off Flovent and haven’t had prednisone in over 2 years. It took a long time, but the skin is back to normal and a doctor recently told my it’s rather thick (he was removing a tick from it at the time). Loki

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James I’ve posted this before but here goes again. Go to a health store or some naturalorganic foods store and look for a tube of ARNICA. (gel or cream, I really prefer the gel) It will help to fade the bruises fairly fast  and it works. I get them all the time — thinner skin and just light bumps and bingo, another darn bruise on my arm.

But let me make a suggestion. As it would be extremely unusual for an inhaled steroid to have such a profound effect on bruisability, I think this should be considered a possibly bleeding problem on its own, and you should contact your doctor to ask him/her about the condition. I do not say it could not be related, but a potentially serious condition should not be treated casually simply because of the outside possibility that it _might_ be related to the Flovent.     Larry

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<snip  Steroids will make bruising worse. Denise Indianapolis

Not only that, but over time the skin becomes more thin and fragile and easily torn. The slightest bump against a corner, for instance, will often produce a small tear of the skin rather than a bruise. I think this is not entirely reversible; at least for me it hasn’t improved much during those periods when I’m not taking prednisone. Emily

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Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James

I’ve posted this before but here goes again. Go to a health store or some naturalorganic foods store and look for a tube of ARNICA. (gel or cream, I really prefer the gel) It will help to fade the bruises fairly fast  and it works. I get them all the time — thinner skin and just light bumps and bingo, another darn bruise on my arm.

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Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James The package insert that comes with Flovent (which you can download from www.flovent.com) identifies "contusions" (bruises) as an uncommon, but known, side effect of Flovent.

Oops, I got the website wrong. It’s http://www.glaxowellcome.com/prod_list.html — Steven D. Litvintchouk                   "I guess I could have paid a little closer attention when I was in English class, but it all worked out OK.  I’m gainfully employed."      – President George W. Bush

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Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James Hi!

   I’ve had Flovent/Flixotide (fluticasone) for fourteen    months and there is bruising.  When I garden, I must    be careful of twigs, etc., poking into my forearms.    Often,  when I come in from gardening, my forearms    are covered in little purple-red blotches.  I now wear    protective shields around them.  There are no bruises    anywhere else.  I’ve reduced my intake of  Flovent    from 1000 microgm per day down to 500 per day    in the hope that things will improve.  I didn’t notice    anything like this when I had Becotide,  even up to    1200 microgm per day. The bruises heal in about a     week.     regards,     Duncan.

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Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James

The package insert that comes with Flovent (which you can download from www.flovent.com) identifies "contusions" (bruises) as an uncommon, but known, side effect of Flovent. Inhaled steroids are less likely to cause systemic side effects than oral steroids. But they still can occur, something that physicians don’t like to dwell on with their patients. When I was on Aerobid at one time, I started catching colds at the rate of one every six weeks.  (Where prior to that, I had only caught about two colds per year.)  So for me, Aerobid was apparently decreasing my resistance to upper respiratory infections.  (This is another one of the uncommon, but known, side effects of inhaled steroids.) — Steven D. Litvintchouk                   "I guess I could have paid a little closer attention when I was in English class, but it all worked out OK.  I’m gainfully employed."      – President George W. Bush

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Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James

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I have that problem when I am on Prednisone. Steroids will make bruising worse. Denise Indianapolis

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James

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I have the bruising when I am on prednisone, but have not noticed it when I am using a steroid inhaler only. Boyd — "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity." (Ellen Parr- author) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have that problem when I am on Prednisone. Steroids will make bruising worse. Denise Indianapolis Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James

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Has anyone else noticed that after a few years of Flovent use, you bruise easily, I am a healthy 30 year old male, but any knock or bump now brings bruises, where before they just didnt happen, anyone else experience much more bruising from bumps, etc. since taking Flovent or other Steroids? THANKS James

Hi James, Yes and yes and yes.  I have bruises all the time for no reason at all.  I wake up with little bruises.  And those I do get from bumps are much larger and "deeper" than they would be prior to starting Flovent in 1998.  That and weight gain, muscle weakness..yuck.  Wish they would come up with a new med that has less side effects. But, I would rather have all of the above than not being able to breathe!! Patrice

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are the shots for?  Have you been exposed to this trigger since taking the shots?  Was your reaction lessened?  If so, the shots are working.  They may take as much as a year to show an effect. 1.  The shots are for my allergies to cats, dogs, and fall and spring allergies to trees. 2. Yes, I am a non-compliant patient at times, I have 2 dogs and 2 cats. Lots of exposure. 3.  I have noticed no improvement or change in my moderate asthma, for good or bad Thanks, Polly

I had shots for 5 years for grass, tree, and weed pollens, and dust mites and dust (Dust is not used much anymore). It took 6 months of weekly shots to get to the maximum dose; then the frequency tapered off to monthly. The shots helped some, not a dramatic improvement. Regarding cats and dogs, be sure to keep them out of the bedroom, where you spend 1/3 of your time. Also bathe them frequently, see www.allerpet.com for more info. Cat allergen especially can be a potent trigger. An air cleaner may help. Link: http://www.aaaai.org/public/publicedmat/tips/tip25.html   Tip 25: Immunotherapy Excerpt: "Immunotherapy is usually preferred when:  symptoms are moderate to severe;  occur more than two to three months each year;  have not responded well to medications that can be tolerated by  the patient;  and are due to an allergen not easily avoided." http://www.njc.org/MFhtml/IMT_MF.html Immunotherapy (Allergy Shots) Excerpt: "Six months to a year of immunotherapy may be required before you experience any improvement in symptoms. If your symptoms do not improve after this time, your allergist should review your overall treatment program. If the treatment is effective, the shots usually continue three to five years, until the individual is symptom-free or until symptoms can be controlled with mild medications for one year. In general, allergy shots should be stopped if they are not effective within two to three years." Ellis

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Dear Liam, Thank you for your imput.  To answer your question about the animals.  My allergist has pleaded with me to get rid or place my animals.  I have no children, and they are my family.  I would rather suffer my health than grieve their loss.  But, I will be asking my allergist those questions and you have given me idea of every two weeks instead of weekly. THANKYOU – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Polly

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Hi, first time I got through this allergy shots was 1964… and I’ve made it 2 more times since that (64-65, then 68-69, and 74-75) ! It’s a long time work, so don’t discourage. The shots are first once every few days, then once a week, 4 times a month, 3 times, twice a month, a.s.o. For me, it was going over 2 years (but could be different for others, depending on allergies and other factors). Did it work ? No because asthma is still triggered by the allergenes, but Yes because the concentration level of allergenes have to be much higher than before. This means the usual drugs I have to breath in every day will handle it without taking more steroids. But it’s worth doing it. BTW, over the time, allergies could change for each person… why ? I can’t tell you ! Re. your dogs and cats, I’ll tell you that little story (already posted on the NG) : I am member of the board of an asthmatic association in France (Strasbourg). Within all members tested positive for dogs, nearly all gave their dogs away… some felt better. Within all members tested positive for cats, nearly all made the choice to live with their cat (in this case, I don’t remember who lives with who !!!) In most cases it didn’t make a real big difference, even the one’s who gave their cat away had a lot of psychological stress that made asthma to increase. May be it’s like a choice everybody has to make, balancing between life quality and illness ! Not easy ! I love cats too, and curiously I have been tested (at an asthma specialized clinic in Davos / Switzerland) positive for cats, but without any trigger action ! Funny ! Best regards Roland Polly and Kathleen a

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Well I had a very interesting afternoon. Took my granddaughter and her 2 babies for checkups. Got back and we were taking everything into her house. Somehow the 2 year old locked herself in with us on the out side. Naturally the keys are on the kitchen table. So we start trying to jimmy doors. Naturally we are burgular proof. Then I start ripping off storm windows. But every window in the place is locked tight. Then I remember a small window very high in the hallway. A very very small window. I run for the step ladder. And you know what ? I can fit in an 16 in wide  by 20 in tall space!!! Tore half my leg  off in the process and had to fall to the floor on the inside. Granddaughter was talking to baby through window while she screamed her lungs out.Never dawned on me to let GD go through the window. Lol And to think ,yest I had tried to pull foot up across knee to scrub it and couldnt do it. Now if I could figure out how to bottle adrenaline rush we would truly have a cure. AND a pot of coffee later I feel none the worse for wear other than scrape on leg. The strangest thing tho—— I am much wider than 16 inches????? Barbo Dear Barbo isn’t the human body marvellous when put under stress by Kiddies, when my son locked me out of our appartment  when i had been to take out the trash (and thought he was asleep) I cajoled ,threatened and totally panicked, he just smiled through the letter flap and said "Mommy I love you but you can’t come in I’m not supposed to open the door unless daddy tells me too and he’s at work" grrrrrrrh, sohere I am 8 months pregnant trying to squeeze through a little toilet window 18×18 wow, needless to say the trash always got left for hubbie to do after that. Cathy From England xxx

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Sorry to laugh, but….ROFL!! Aren’t children wonderful? DeeTee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I had a very interesting afternoon. Took my granddaughter and her 2 babies for checkups. Got back and we were taking everything into her house. Somehow the 2 year old locked herself in with us on the out side. Naturally the keys are on the kitchen table. So we start trying to jimmy doors. Naturally we are burgular proof. Then I start ripping off storm windows. But every window in the place is locked tight. Then I remember a small window very high in the hallway. A very very small window. I run for the step ladder. And you know what ? I can fit in an 16 in wide  by 20 in tall space!!! Tore half my leg  off in the process and had to fall to the floor on the inside. Granddaughter was talking to baby through window while she screamed her lungs out.Never dawned on me to let GD go through the window. Lol And to think ,yest I had tried to pull foot up across knee to scrub it and couldnt do it. Now if I could figure out how to bottle adrenaline rush we would truly have a cure. AND a pot of coffee later I feel none the worse for wear other than scrape on leg. The strangest thing tho—— I am much wider than 16 inches????? Barbo

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Lololol Cathy , That is tooooo funny1 But our "Baby" is only 2 And couldnt get the door open. Barbo

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I think it could be worth giving our experiences with "adrenalin rushes".  Mary

Hi Mary, My experience with this is based on an unfortunate tendency to severe prolonged anxiety attacks.  I can be really pumping out the stress chemicalls for days.  My RA totally disappears- no pain, no swelling, although I’m almost too freaked out to notice!  Then once it’s all over and the juices drop back, the RA comes on strong. Regards,  Cynthia

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Have to agree.  All of my joint and muscle pain flares have followed a spell of asthma that had to be treated with massive doses of steroids.  They stimulate the adrenal glands.  Also asthma treatment often requires adrenelyn shots.  You have to breathe first but I always know that at least for me the use of steriods is borrowing against the future for the present.  My body always demands payback. — Jo Firey

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think it could be worth giving our experiences with "adrenalin rushes".  Mary Hi Mary, My experience with this is based on an unfortunate tendency to severe prolonged anxiety attacks.  I can be really pumping out the stress chemicalls for days.  My RA totally disappears- no pain, no swelling, although I’m almost too freaked out to notice!  Then once it’s all over and the juices drop back, the RA comes on strong. Regards,  Cynthia

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Good for you, Barbo!  Maybe we can start an ASA gymnastics team!

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Barbo, that is the _best_ story !  There may be a lot more to it than humor though.  Please forgive me if you’ve discussed the "adrenalin factor" before: I’m quite new here so could have missed the thread.   I used to have asthma attacks when I was young so know what adrenalin feels like and can do.   That’s why I saw a pattern in how good/bad I felt in unusual situations.  If I feel like a lump of cement and something (news or a visitor or being scared into action, as you were) kicks in the adrenalin, I feel "pumped’ and so much livelier for quite some time. I think it could be worth giving our experiences with "adrenalin rushes".  Mary

Hi Mary,  It brings to mind a scene in the movie-Blade runner where the head of a corporation is talking to his genetic creation who has broken into his living quarters for information.  The problem was that the creation had a very short life span but was a superman in his abilities. The head of the company says to him–Ahhh but your candle burns ever so brightly.     That is how adrenaline is for me.  It is the old fight or flight deal and my RA goes into high gear.  Noooo thanks. Harv

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The strangest thing tho—— I am much wider than 16 inches????? Barbo

LOL — are you wider than 25.6 inches? (figured i’d expose my math dweeb trait)  glad you made it through relatively unscaled.  and next time, send the granddaughter.  but i gotta say, pretty impressive for a great-grandma <g (have you considered a spare key?) Shelley "and praise will come to those whose kindness/leaves you without debt" — Neil Finn

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Barbo, that is the _best_ story !  There may be a lot more to it than humor though.  Please forgive me if you’ve discussed the "adrenalin factor" before: I’m quite new here so could have missed the thread.   I used to have asthma attacks when I was young so know what adrenalin feels like and can do.   That’s why I saw a pattern in how good/bad I felt in unusual situations.  If I feel like a lump of cement and something (news or a visitor or being scared into action, as you were) kicks in the adrenalin, I feel "pumped’ and so much livelier for quite some time. I think it could be worth giving our experiences with "adrenalin rushes".  Mary

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Well I had a very interesting afternoon. Took my granddaughter and her 2 babies for checkups. Got back and we were taking everything into her house. Somehow the 2 year old locked herself in with us on the out side. Naturally the keys are on the kitchen table. So we start trying to jimmy doors. Naturally we are burgular proof. Then I start ripping off storm windows. But every window in the place is locked tight. Then I remember a small window very high in the hallway. A very very small window. I run for the step ladder. And you know what ? I can fit in an 16 in wide  by 20 in tall space!!! Tore half my leg  off in the process and had to fall to the floor on the inside. Granddaughter was talking to baby through window while she screamed her lungs out.Never dawned on me to let GD go through the window. Lol And to think ,yest I had tried to pull foot up across knee to scrub it and couldnt do it. Now if I could figure out how to bottle adrenaline rush we would truly have a cure. AND a pot of coffee later I feel none the worse for wear other than scrape on leg. The strangest thing tho—— I am much wider than 16 inches????? Barbo

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I began Accolate in February or March of this year. For the past six weeks I have felt as though I had the flu – I even had a mononucleosis test done thinking that was it.  My symptoms are terrible, debilitating joint pain in both shoulders, both knees, both ankles and the toes of the right foot. I have no energy and generally don’t feel well, although this might be from the severe pain.  My physician stopped the Accolate one week ago – I didn’t tell him about it until then because it didn’t occur to me it might be related. I had told my internist but she could find nothing wrong. I will keep the group posted.  Let’s please stay together on this because it’s taking the medical community a long time to figure it out.

Hello — I took Accolate on a trial basis for 2-3 weeks. I was not being weaned from any other medication, and did not experience any pain or flu- like symptoms. However, I did experience light-headedness and dizzyness. After stopping the medication the symptoms gradually diminished, but have not yet totally disappeared (after about 20 days). This lightheadedness was quite disconcerting — I was afraid to do my jogging, for example. I thought a few times that I might pass out. I believe the symptoms were intensified after sipping a glass of wine, too. I had a medical exam with blood tests to rule out vertigo, hypogycemia, stroke, etc., and they were all negative. My best guess is that the symptoms were due to the drug, but I can’t say for sure. Has anyone else experienced such symptoms, or know if the drug has a long "half-life" when discontinued? Good luck with your search, Kaysaan. -JSF

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I began Accolate in February or March of this year. For the past six weeks I have felt as though I had the flu – I even had a mononucleosis test done thinking that was it.  My symptoms are terrible, debilitating joint pain in both shoulders, both knees, both ankles and the toes of the right foot. I have no energy and generally don’t feel well, although this might be from the severe pain.  My physician stopped the Accolate one week ago – I didn’t tell him about it until then because it didn’t occur to me it might be related. I had told my internist but she could find nothing wrong. I will keep the group posted.  Let’s please stay together on this because it’s taking the medical community a long time to figure it out.

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I began Accolate in February or March of this year. For the past six weeks I have felt as though I had the flu – I even had a mononucleosis test done thinking that was it.  My symptoms are terrible, debilitating joint pain in both shoulders, both knees, both ankles and the toes of the right foot. I have no energy and generally don’t feel well, although this might be from the severe pain.  My physician stopped the Accolate one week ago – I didn’t tell him about it until then because it didn’t occur to me it might be related. I had told my internist but she could find nothing wrong. I will keep the group posted.  Let’s please stay together on this because it’s taking the medical community a long time to figure it out.

A Dear Doctor letter was sent out by the manufacturer the last part of July warning of new side effects. The FDA Medwatch web site has posted a Talk Paper at http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00810.html Excerpt: FDA TALK PAPER July 23, 1997 Food and Drug Administration "HEALTH ADVISORY FOR NEW ASTHMA DRUG      Zafirlukast (Accolate), a popular asthma treatment, has recently been associated with a rare and sometimes fatal condition known as Churg-Strauss Syndrome.  The drug’s manufacturer, Zeneca Pharmaceuticals, is now notifying health care providers of this possible drug side effect after FDA learned of six asthma patients who developed Churg-Strauss Syndrome while taking zafirlukast.  These data, however, do not definitively demonstrate that the drug caused the condition."      Churg-Strauss Syndrome occurs in adult asthma patients and may appear as generalized, flu-like symptoms such as fever, muscle aches and pains, and weight loss.  Patients also experience inflammation of blood vessels, primarily in the lungs. If left untreated, Churg-Strauss Syndrome can result in major  Thus far, all reported cases have occurred in patients whose steroidal asthma medications were being gradually lowered or discontinued while receiving zafirlukast.  New labeling for zafirlukast will warn health care providers of this possible problem and urge them to monitor their patients carefully when corticosteroids are being tapered or discontinued."

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i stated taking it in about the end of nov i think, anyway i have been having such bone pain and taking 2 alive every 8 hours. the other night i wake up to have jaw bone pain and i cant lay on some of my head bones they hurt to, my leg bones hurt so bad that it hard to walk on the right leg sometimes, i call my doc i ask him if it could be the accolate ,he dont know but for now i am not taking it. how long will it take before i will know if the bone pain is from the accolate or something else, thank you for your time god bless you all, from darla

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Does anybody know the annual costs for the asthma treatment? Thanks, Kedron

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Does anybody know the annual costs for the asthma treatment? Thanks, Kedron

The annual cost may vary from something like $20.00 per year to $3000.00 or more. It all depends on the severity of your asthma and the treatment you require. Add to that the cost of any ER treatment or stays in hospitals…. Yves Dussault Montreal

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It depends on how severe the asthma is and how well it is controlled. Inhalers are expensive….starting at about $20 and going up from there depending on the kind of medication.  Some people use more than one kind at a time. Also ER visits and hospital stays are costly, depending on what kind of care is needed.  I don’t think I’ve been in the ER for under $300 (for just an hour).  Last summer when I was hospitalized for three days, it cost over $6000.  Fortunately I have insurace that covered 100%.  Otherwise I almost couldn’t afford to breathe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anybody know the annual costs for the asthma treatment? Thanks, Kedron

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Hello-   Azamacort never worked forme. I have tried for a few years, on and off. NEVER. I went on flovent, and after a week cut my albuterol usage in half and could start exercising again. People have different reactions to different steroids- and one big factor is that for me, azamacort was 4×4 puffs a day (16!! which alone can exacerbate athsma!!) but flovent is only 2×2 a day. It is fantastic for me. btw, I also use flonase nasal spray (same steroid, btw) and it has worked much better for me than vancenase. I guess my body is more responsive to flonase/flovent drugs. -j – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am using Serevent and Azmacort as the combination prescribed by my doctor. During the past 3 months I have had to turn to Prednesone two times for help because I could not function in my work on so little oxygen.  I have never  tried Flovent and only learned of it through this news group.  Could someone with experience with Azmacort give me some thoughts on the difference in the help one may obtain from Flovent in combination with Serevent.    Wade Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina

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I’ve never used Asthmacort.  My drug of choice has been Beclovent for the last several years, until I was prescribe Flovent.  It’s a wonder drug. I’ve cut down on the number of puffs by 1/2 and I am able to handle a cold that settles into my chest better. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flovent works much better than Asthmacort for me.  I was taking 2 puffs 4 to 6x/day of the asthmacort along with serevent and ventolin (2 to 3x/day).  Now I take Flovent 2 puffs, 2x/day without any problem.  (If I keep on this track, I’m am going to drop to 1 puff 2/day).  I still use Serevent 2x/day, but I have not had to use Ventolin in over 3 weeks! I am using Serevent and Azmacort as the combination prescribed by my doctor. During the past 3 months I have had to turn to Prednesone two times for help because I could not function in my work on so little oxygen.  I have never  tried Flovent and only learned of it through this news group.  Could someone with experience with Azmacort give me some thoughts on the difference in the help one may obtain from Flovent in combination with Serevent.    Wade Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina

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I am using Serevent and Azmacort as the combination prescribed by my doctor. During the past 3 months I have had to turn to Prednesone two times for help because I could not function in my work on so little oxygen.  I have never  tried Flovent and only learned of it through this news group.  Could someone with experience with Azmacort give me some thoughts on the difference in the help one may obtain from Flovent in combination with Serevent.    Wade Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina Flovent is available in 3 strengths in MDI form in the US; 44, 110, &

220 ug. Per the Expert Panel Report II, Fig 3-5b, a Low Dose is 4-10 puffs of triamcinolone (Azmacort) or 2-6 puffs of fluticasone 44ug (Flovent 44). A Moderate Dose is 10-20 puffs Azmacort or 2-6 puffs Flovent 110. And a High Dose is 20 puffs Azmacort or 3 puffs Flovent 220. So one advantage of Flovent is it is a stronger medication requiring fewer puffs. It is now recommended per the same report, that moderate and severe asthmatics monitor their lung function with a Peak Flow Meter, which acts as an early warning signal of trouble. When Peak Flow drops into the yellow zone (50-80% personal best) asthma meds, especially inhaled steroids can be increased per doctor approved Action Plan (see report). A typical action plan is to double the inhaled steroids and use Ventolin as needed. This can enable some asthmatics to avoid going on oral prednisone or a trip to ER. Azmacort comes with a small spacer, Flovent should be used with an external spacer like an Aerochamber to minimize systemic effects. There is evidence Flovent has a lower systemic effect than Azmacort on an equivalent dose basis. I was on 24 puffs/day of Azmacort at one point, I was starting to get a round face after 3 months. I’m now on 6-8 puffs of Vanceril, no problem (along with Serevent, Intal, & Ventolin as needed). I’ve tried all the inhaled steroids except Flovent. (I want to try it next, but Vanceril works) When I get an asthma exacerbation I sometimes go to 20 puffs/day of Vanceril, a stronger puffer would be more convenient. Flovent 44 would let me halve the number of puffs. Ellis

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I am using Serevent and Azmacort as the combination prescribed by my doctor. During the past 3 months I have had to turn to Prednesone two times for help because I could not function in my work on so little oxygen.  I have never  tried Flovent and only learned of it through this news group.  Could someone with experience with Azmacort give me some thoughts on the difference in the help one may obtain from Flovent in combination with Serevent.    Wade Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina

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I am using Serevent and Azmacort as the combination prescribed by my doctor. During the past 3 months I have had to turn to Prednesone two times for help because I could not function in my work on so little oxygen.  I have never  tried Flovent and only learned of it through this news group.  Could someone with experience with Azmacort give me some thoughts on the difference in the help one may obtain from Flovent in combination with Serevent.   Wade Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina

I use azmacort 2 puffs, 2X/day and it works fine.  Azmacort is a relatively ‘low dosage’ medication and may not work for more severe cases. Are you seeing an asthma specalist or a GP?  If your doctor isn’t actively attempting to control your asthma maybe you should find one who is a little more aggressive. The goal of asthma treatment is to prevent asthma attacks before they start.  You and your doctor should not be satisfied until you are virtually symptom-free 95% of the time. ‘Reply to’ address changed to foil email spammers.

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I am taking inhalers, specifically flovent, serevent, and atrovent daily.  I am also experiencing swollen fingers as well as other swollen joints accompanied by severe muscle pain.  Is this a normal reaction or do I have additional problems creeping up.  I never had this problem before my October hospital stay when they treated my asthma.  If I take "water pills" I get relief, but I hate to be on those for extended periods of time.  Has anyone else had this problem?  If so, how was it dealt with? Kae Rairdin

One of the side effects of high dosage steroid inhalers is fluid retention. Flovent comes in 3 strengths, 44ug, 110 ug, & 220ug. Each puff of Flovent 220 = 10 puffs of Beclovent/Vanceril. If you are using Flovent 220 this may be what’s happening. You should be using a Peak Flow Meter to monitor your lung function and an Action Plan approved by your doctor to adjust drug useage. Attempts should be made to reduce the use of steroids whenever possible while maintaining peak flow 80%, in accordance with the 1997 Expert Panel Report II-Guidelines/Asthma Treatment. A good reference book which explains this is ‘The Asthma Sourcebook’ by Francis Adams, MD, c96, Lowell House. Also recommended that you consult your doctor.

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I am taking inhalers, specifically flovent, serevent, and atrovent daily.  I am also experiencing swollen fingers as well as other swollen joints accompanied by severe muscle pain.  Is this a normal reaction or do I have additional problems creeping up.  I never had this problem before my October hospital stay when they treated my asthma.  If I take "water pills" I get relief, but I hate to be on those for extended periods of time.  Has anyone else had this problem?  If so, how was it dealt with? Kae Rairdin

I am also on Serevent (2 puffs every 12 hours), Flovent  250 (2 puffs every 12 hours) and Atrovent (2 puffs 4 times per day). I have been on these for a bit more than two years. I do not experience the swelling you are talking about. I would suggest you talk to your doctor or pulmonologist about your problem. Yves Dussault

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I am taking inhalers, specifically flovent, serevent, and atrovent daily.  I am also experiencing swollen fingers as well as other swollen joints accompanied by severe muscle pain.  Is this a normal reaction or do I have additional problems creeping up.  I never had this problem before my October hospital stay when they treated my asthma.  If I take "water pills" I get relief, but I hate to be on those for extended periods of time.  Has anyone else had this problem?  If so, how was it dealt with? Kae Rairdin

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I don’t know about pred but what it sounds like is acute edema which I have. Wait and see what the folks here say about the pred but if you are so swollen you need to get it checked.  Edema is nothing to play with.  It can be a sign of heart problems, kidney problem and that sort.  I have it for a while now and I am on water pills but I still have some swelling and my blood and urine tests showed kidney being sluggish.  I hope this helps.  UM OM susan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a question… Whats with this new swelling in my legs, hips, face.??? I’ve been on pred for about 3 months now and I know it makes you have the pred face. But what I don’t understand is can it make your legs swell to twice or three times the normal size?? I normally have what I referr to as birdlegs, but for the last 3 wks I’ve got elephant legs. Honestly they look like elephants legs. They swell to the point of pain is so intense that I can hardly walk. What can I do to reduce this? is there a home remedy? or is this soemthing else that I have to deal with along with the UC?? Tina (elephant legs)

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I don’t take pred myself, but one thing I know about it is that you should not eat any salt when you’re on it. Maybe you already know about this. Take Care Noella – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a question… Whats with this new swelling in my legs, hips, face.??? I’ve been on pred for about 3 months now and I know it makes you have the pred face. But what I don’t understand is can it make your legs swell to twice or three times the normal size?? I normally have what I referr to as birdlegs, but for the last 3 wks I’ve got elephant legs. Honestly they look like elephants legs. They swell to the point of pain is so intense that I can hardly walk. What can I do to reduce this? is there a home remedy? or is this soemthing else that I have to deal with along with the UC?? Tina (elephant legs)

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I have a question… Whats with this new swelling in my legs, hips, face.??? I’ve been on pred for about 3 months now and I know it makes you have the pred face. But what I don’t understand is can it make your legs swell to twice or three times the normal size?? I normally have what I referr to as birdlegs, but for the last 3 wks I’ve got elephant legs. Honestly they look like elephants legs. They swell to the point of pain is so intense that I can hardly walk. What can I do to reduce this? is there a home remedy? or is this soemthing else that I have to deal with along with the UC?? Tina (elephant legs)

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I was diagnosed in November of 1989 with cd.  For the past two years I have had swelling in my hands, feet, neck and throat (twice almost swelled shut)  Doctor says it could be an allergic reaction but is not sure.  Does anyone else experience this?  If so what was the cause.   Also have been pred-free for  the past two and a half years. Thanks.

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I was diagnosed in November of 1989 with cd.  For the past two years I have had swelling in my hands, feet, neck and throat (twice almost swelled shut)  Doctor says it could be an allergic reaction but is not sure.  Does anyone else experience this?  If so what was the cause. Also have been pred-free for  the past two and a half years. Thanks.

Tom, When I was first diagnosed with Crohn’s, I had severe edema (which I think may be swelling due to retention of water, but it’s swelling nonetheless *grin*) in my hands, arms, feet, and legs.  My feet were so big I couldn’t wear anything but flip-flops, and it was November *brrr*  At it’s worse, the edema caused my skin to turn a bruised color.  I also had erythema nodosum (fist-sized knots) in my legs and arms. I was told by all my doctors that this was caused by my Crohn’s – it was just another sign that my immune system was "a little" too active. BTW, after 1 week on prednisone, it was all gone. If you’re not having any gastro symptoms, the doctor may be right about an alergy, and you should consider allergy testing, especially since your throat is swelling also! Take care, Kerry —       / |  ’              Kerry Keel       _/-, ,—-’          http://www.hsv.tis.net/~kerryk/Pouchclip/          ====           //  http://www.hsv.tis.net/~kerryk/UOA/         /  -’~;    /~~~(O)        /  __/~|   /       |

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writes: Has anyone either experienced or heard of adult onset asthma disappearing over time?

If there’s anything I believe about asthma, it’s that almost anything is possible – they just don’t seem to be able to predict. I had my first bout of "asthmatic bronchitis" at age 32 – my first breathing/lung problem ever.  I never got a diagnosis of just asthma – but had classic asthma symptoms occuring with respiratory infections.  At age 35, it’s been well over a year since I had any problems… but I haven’t forgotten the misery of it and am always on the lookout for recurrances (obviously I’m here reading this newsgroup, trying to stay informed, despite being asymptomatic for some time).  I remember posting this same question some time ago and there were responses from adult-onset patients who had improved greatly with time.  I hope that will be the case for you, and everyone else here for that matter. Good luck, Cheryl

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Has anyone either experienced or heard of adult onset asthma disappearing over time? I keep hoping that the steroids/antibiotic merry-go-round will end someday – hopefully before I have to leave my Rx insurance coverage and pay out of pocket! As a rule-adult onset asthma is here for good and usually gets worse over

time.This is a great motivator to get treatment and follow your regime faithfully,before there is much lung damage.Asthma left untreated will cause lung scaring and fibrosis. Colleen-Respiratory Therapist.

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Asthma hit me at age 56!  Colds had always lingered on longer than they should and several times pneumonia and/or bronchitis resulted.  The cough from a simple cold would last about 6 weeks.  Diagnosis was made when one cold lead to non-stop coughing despite 2 rounds of antibiotics and codeine cough-syrup.  I thought my G.P. was nuts when he suggested asthma.  It seems the underlying condition in my case was sinus infections mimicing colds and triggering asthma.   Only a complete workup with a pulmonologist or asthma specialist will tell.  I’m sure you’ll get lots of response telling you that you shouldn’t ignore symptoms and that asthma under control is much better that asthma

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You know, I read just last year about how asthma shows up typically between ages 4 to 10 and again around 40.  I can’t remember where I read that, unfortunately. — Kathie Sindt

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – … I’m a 41-year-old woman and have never been diagnosed as having asthma.  But even now, more than 24 hours after the onset, I’m not breathing as easily as I normally do. I’ve not written on a bulletin board before and am not quite sure how it works. If someone has sound advice for me or  has had a similar experience, I’d appreciate email. Thanks much. I hope I’m mistaken about this "attack.” My address is dustywater. Hi and welcome;         You have been posting to the newgroup for asthma.  The best advice I can give you is to read the postings.  Once you have read them a few times you will have gotten quite a few answers to any questions you may have.  Don’t be afraid to reply to or ask questions to someone, either by email or by the newsgroup, so far I have been answered every time, and people are glad to help.  Please don’t give up on the newsgroup because you may see some persons who are posting to the wrong groups, or arguing back and forth, you will recognize the names and addresses to avoid befor too long.  Try looking for the FAQ’s (frequently asked questions) which are posted periodicaly, last time I got 3 FAQ’s which covered what is asthma, medications used, and other treatments.  You can also request the FAQ’s to be posted in a letter to the newsgroup.  If you have any questions feel free to leave a note for me, I try to read the newsgroup every day if possible. DeborahTo Dustywater:  I did not have any asthma symptoms until I was 38.  You need

to see a reputable pulmonary physician and follow his recommendations.  My asthma was not very bad at first and my doctor told me up front that it could get worse before it got better.  That’s eactly what happened.  At first, I did not believe that it could be that bad (denial) and I learned very quickly that I had to follow the doctor’s orders and take my medications faithfully.  Now I have my asthma under control most of the time and feel so much better.  Asthma

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Has anyone either experienced or heard of adult onset asthma disappearing over time? I keep hoping that the steroids/antibiotic merry-go-round will end someday – hopefully before I have to leave my Rx insurance coverage and pay out of pocket!

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Only a physician would be qualified to determine if you have asthma. You should see your general physician first and then if necessary see a pulmonologist (this is a person who specializes in diseases of the lungs). … jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I know this sounds weird, but here it is. Last night Iafter working out on the treadmill, I experienced what I can only guess was similar to an asthma attack. This is the weird part … I’m a 41-year-old woman and have never been diagnosed as having asthma. I’m active and have been in excellent health. After the "attack” I seemed to remember a couple of other times within the past year-and-a-half I’ve had some of the same symptons. Is it possible, or rather likely, that I could have suddenly developed asthma? It was a frightening experience. The wheezing and coughing lasted the better part of an hour, I suppose, but it seemed like an eternity. The worst of it was probably no more than 20 minutes or so. But even now, more than 24 hours after the onset, I’m not breathing as easily as I normally do. I’ve not written on a bulletin board before and am not quite sure how it works. If someone has sound advice for me or  has had a similar experience, I’d appreciate email. Thanks much. I hope I’m mistaken about this "attack.” My address is dustywater.

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… I’m a 41-year-old woman and have never been diagnosed as having asthma.  But even now, more than 24 hours after the onset, I’m not breathing as easily as I normally do. I’ve not written on a bulletin board before and am not quite sure how it works. If someone has sound advice for me or  has had a similar experience, I’d appreciate email. Thanks much. I hope I’m mistaken about this "attack.” My address is dustywater.

Hi and welcome;         You have been posting to the newgroup for asthma.  The best advice I can give you is to read the postings.  Once you have read them a few times you will have gotten quite a few answers to any questions you may have.  Don’t be afraid to reply to or ask questions to someone, either by email or by the newsgroup, so far I have been answered every time, and people are glad to help.  Please don’t give up on the newsgroup because you may see some persons who are posting to the wrong groups, or arguing back and forth, you will recognize the names and addresses to avoid befor too long.  Try looking for the FAQ’s (frequently asked questions) which are posted periodicaly, last time I got 3 FAQ’s which covered what is asthma, medications used, and other treatments.  You can also request the FAQ’s to be posted in a letter to the newsgroup.  If you have any questions feel free to leave a note for me, I try to read the newsgroup every day if possible. Deborah

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I was wondering if there are any of you who had a diagnosis of asthma later in life??  My wife was 22 when the doctors told us she was asthmatic.  I thought this to be rather strange.  

Not at all; "adult-onset" asthma strikes during adult life.  Following a nasty long attack of acute sinusitis, I started getting asthmatic symptoms (coughing spasms) at age 39.  I was finally diagnosed with asthma at age 41. Her symptoms have gotten worse also.  She started out with only one inhaler and now she has  proventil,  intal,  azmacort,  and she has to take seldane, theo-dur,  and prednisone.  Every time she goes to see about her wheezing they put her on something else.  Doesn’t it make sence to get her off all these things and see if some of her problem is too many medicines???

I do hope that her physician is working with her to try to establish as many potential triggers of her asthma as possible.  Presumably she was allergy tested, and found to be positive, and that’s why she was prescribed seldane, yes? — Steven D. Litvintchouk                  "There seems to be no mainframe Disclaimer:  As far as I am aware,       in which we’re living." the opinions expressed herein                 — President Bill Clinton are not those of my employer.

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I know this sounds weird, but here it is. Last night Iafter working out on the treadmill, I experienced what I can only guess was similar to an asthma attack. This is the weird part … I’m a 41-year-old woman and have never been diagnosed as having asthma. I’m active and have been in excellent health. After the "attack” I seemed to remember a couple of other times within the past year-and-a-half I’ve had some of the same symptons. Is it possible, or rather likely, that I could have suddenly developed asthma? It was a frightening experience. The wheezing and coughing lasted the better part of an hour, I suppose, but it seemed like an eternity. The worst of it was probably no more than 20 minutes or so. But even now, more than 24 hours after the onset, I’m not breathing as easily as I normally do. I’ve not written on a bulletin board before and am not quite sure how it works. If someone has sound advice for me or  has had a similar experience, I’d appreciate email. Thanks much. I hope I’m mistaken about this "attack.” My address is dustywater.

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Actually, this seems to be fairly common in my rather polluted part of the world (seacoast New Hampshire). I have talked to several elderly folk who developed asthma late in life. I was in my 50s, with the problem becoming really bothersome when I as 60. I am however the son of an asthmatic so it was not a complete surprise. – Dan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I read somewhere that 10% of asthmatics develop their first symptoms after age 40 (47, in my case).  I think my source was the Merck Manual of General Medicine, but I’m not sure. I was wondering if there are any of you who had a diagnosis of asthma later in life??  My wife was 22 when the doctors told us she was asthmatic.  I thought this to be rather strange.  Her symptoms have gotten worse also.  She started out with only one inhaler and now she has  proventil,  intal,  azmacort,  and she has to take seldane, theo-dur,  and prednisone.  Every time she goes to see about her wheezing they put her on something else.  Doesn’t it make sence to get her off all these things and see if some of her problem is too many medicines???

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About the age your asthma starts,  I was 35 when it started and the amount of medication has increased to keep it under control. I also had alergy shots with no success. I’ve had nasal polyps removed twice. The only thing you can do and get it under control and learn what triggers your asthma and try to avoid them. About medications. The pulmonary doctor I see now kept changing my meds every month until I found a combination that works for me. Chet

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I’d just turned 37 last year when I was overcome by severe asthma. It’s taken me 9 months to find a treatment that will keep my asthma under control instead of having it control me. It is not unusual to develop the condition later in life. I was either on prednisone with proventil and antihistamines or was so sick I was doing 16 puffs of Dexacort, 12 of Proventil, 400mg of Theophylline and 2 claritin a day. At times I had to use the Nebulizer  and I’d sit and suffer with 3 hour attacks. I recently had my doctor prescribe me an inhaler called Becloforte. It’s a steroid inhaler and is available in Canada and Great Britain. I has changed my life. I am now in control of my asthma and without oral steroids. I now only need 4 puffs of Becloforte, 4-8 puffs of Proventil and 1 antihistamine a day. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I read somewhere that 10% of asthmatics develop their first symptoms after age 40 (47, in my case).  I think my source was the Merck Manual of General Medicine, but I’m not sure. I was wondering if there are any of you who had a diagnosis of asthma later in life??  My wife was 22 when the doctors told us she was asthmatic.  I thought this to be rather strange.  Her symptoms have gotten worse also.  She started out with only one inhaler and now she has  proventil,  intal,  azmacort,  and she has to take seldane, theo-dur,  and prednisone.  Every time she goes to see about her wheezing they put her on something else.  Doesn’t it make sence to get her off all these things and see if some of her problem is too many medicines???

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I developed asthma at the age of 30 –  a year after moving from the south of England to the north, in 1975. My sister, who lives in the Midlands developed asthma at the age of 48. I know your feeling about too many medicines.  I had loads of inhalers and nasal drops from 1975 to 1983, and had a course of desensitizing injections (these are no longer available in the UK as they can be dangerous to life).  Then I had a severe attack which resulted in being rushed to intensive care in hospital where I was for 12 days.   After that I was put on 2 inhalers – Bricanyl and Becotide.  Since then the Becotide has been replaced with Becotide 100, and then Becloforte (equivalent to a becotide 250), and more recently Filair Forte – which is the same stuff made by a different pharmaceutical company.  Also I now have Serervent capsules inhaled twice a day, and use a nebulizer at my docors’ surgery when there’s a need ( about 3 times a year).  I use a peak flow meter daily to monitor Since my major attack in 1983 I also take short courses of prednisolone when I have attacks.  Up to February of this year my asthma was controlled.  Since then I’ve had 3 attacks – the last for no apparent reason.  I’m  now back on prednisolone for a fortnight, plus atrovent, and an anti-biotic for a week.   I don’t understand the medical situation in the US bit I advise that you read up about asthma from your public library.  Ask your doctors if you don’t understand.  Join your Asthma Society – I know there is a "Mothers of Asthmatics" society or something similar – they have much nformation on their W3 pages.  Also do a Lycos or other net search. Kind regards – wishing you and your wife well Clive Richardson.  

Clive, You’re in good hands over there. Your athmsa has been treated very properly. The States is very behind in many preventative therapies and this is especially true for asthma treatment. We in Canada are further ahead of the States in the area of asthma care but not reached the level of the UK as yet (but we are headed in the right direction). You still have asthma symptoms from time to time but if you weren’t getting the good care that you are you would be much sicker I assure you. John Byggdin, RRT President Home Oxygen Services Ltd. Regina, SK   Canada

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 I was wondering if there are any of you who had a diagnosis of asthma  later in life??  My wife was 22 when the doctors told us she was  asthmatic.  I thought this to be rather strange.  Her symptoms have  gotten worse also.  She started out with only one inhaler and now she  has  proventil,  intal,  azmacort,  and she has to take seldane,  theo-dur,  and prednisone.  Every time she goes to see about her  wheezing they put her on something else.  Doesn’t it make sence to get  her off all these things and see if some of her problem is too many  medicines???

I was in my early twenties when my asthma was positively diagnosed, although I clearly had undiagnosed mild-to-moderate asthma as a child. It did get worse in adulthood due to a variety of factors that occurred in my early 20’s: adult-onset dairy allergy, living in a polluted area, living with cats. There is never "too much medication" if "just the right amount of medication" doesn’t control the illness. But if there are this many medications and not enough control of the illness, the thing to do though is to go on a comprehensive mission to find out if there are any eliminatable triggers to her active asthma. Read the asthma FAQ to learn what they might be, and be Sherlock about anything that might have changed in her life. She should clearly get tested for allergies. She should consider changing things that are under her control, including being around cats, dogs, smokers, molds, dust and dust mites. She should also look into the possibility that some fragrance, food or food additive is triggering her asthma. There may be other possible triggers as well, such as chronic sinusitis. Learn, learn, learn. Good luck Mark — Mark Feblowitz,   GTE Laboratories Inc., 40 Sylvan Rd.  Waltham, MA 02254

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I read somewhere that 10% of asthmatics develop their first symptoms after age 40 (47, in my case).  I think my source was the Merck Manual of General Medicine, but I’m not sure. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was wondering if there are any of you who had a diagnosis of asthma later in life??  My wife was 22 when the doctors told us she was asthmatic.  I thought this to be rather strange.  Her symptoms have gotten worse also.  She started out with only one inhaler and now she has  proventil,  intal,  azmacort,  and she has to take seldane, theo-dur,  and prednisone.  Every time she goes to see about her wheezing they put her on something else.  Doesn’t it make sence to get her off all these things and see if some of her problem is too many medicines???

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Right.  And suppose you’re wrong.  Perhaps she dies from an attack.  I don’t think there’s any evidence to suggest too many medicines are a trigger for, or cause of, asthma.  Maybe with time she will stabilize on a useful medicine regime.  Until then, I am sure she is grateful for every new medicine that is prescribed.  Doesn’t it make sence to get – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -her off all these things and see if some of her problem is too many medicines???

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I was wondering if there are any of you who had a diagnosis of asthma later in life??  My wife was 22 when the doctors told us she was asthmatic.  I thought this to be rather strange.  Her symptoms have gotten worse also.  She started out with only one inhaler and now she has  proventil,  intal,  azmacort,  and she has to take seldane, theo-dur,  and prednisone.  Every time she goes to see about her wheezing they put her on something else.  Doesn’t it make sence to get her off all these things and see if some of her problem is too many medicines???

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I developed asthma at the age of 30 –  a year after moving from the south of England to the north, in 1975. My sister, who lives in the Midlands developed asthma at the age of 48. I know your feeling about too many medicines.  I had loads of inhalers and nasal drops from 1975 to 1983, and had a course of desensitizing injections (these are no longer available in the UK as they can be dangerous to life).  Then I had a severe attack which resulted in being rushed to intensive care in hospital where I was for 12 days.   After that I was put on 2 inhalers – Bricanyl and Becotide.  Since then the Becotide has been replaced with Becotide 100, and then Becloforte (equivalent to a becotide 250), and more recently Filair Forte – which is the same stuff made by a different pharmaceutical company.  Also I now have Serervent capsules inhaled twice a day, and use a nebulizer at my docors’ surgery when there’s a need ( about 3 times a year).  I use a peak flow meter daily to monitor Since my major attack in 1983 I also take short courses of prednisolone when I have attacks.  Up to February of this year my asthma was controlled.  Since then I’ve had 3 attacks – the last for no apparent reason.  I’m  now back on prednisolone for a fortnight, plus atrovent, and an anti-biotic for a week.   I don’t understand the medical situation in the US bit I advise that you read up about asthma from your public library.  Ask your doctors if you don’t understand.  Join your Asthma Society – I know there is a "Mothers of Asthmatics" society or something similar – they have much nformation on their W3 pages.  Also do a Lycos or other net search. Kind regards – wishing you and your wife well Clive Richardson.  

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