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I am off to Sacramento to take the American Board of Family Practice certification exam. I will be gone until Saturday evening. I just wanted to say thank you to all who have encouraged me and to the rest for teaching me about chronic pain from the patient’s point of view. This is not a good-bye…once I start work I will still log on…you just won’t hear as much from me as before (I know some of you are sighing with relief). — Bill Work
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Dr Work I want to thank you for all your help can u answer one more question for me …I need to know why my knee is poping out of place and very painful thank you for all your help have a safe and happy trip Terry * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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GOOD LUCK! I know you’ll do fine – Thank you for all your help and compassion Dr. Work ! Take GREAT care – and hurry back : ) — Christi ~*~ Senior Stampin’ Up! Demonstrator ~*~ Exquisite Essentials http://www.eeshops.com Tell me about your PETS! http://www.trilogyonline.com/ChristiConley/ ^,,^< ^,,^< ^,,^< ^,,^<
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am off to Sacramento to take the American Board of Family Practice certification exam. I will be gone until Saturday evening. I just wanted to say thank you to all who have encouraged me and to the rest for teaching me about chronic pain from the patient’s point of view. This is not a good-bye…once I start work I will still log on…you just won’t hear as much from me as before (I know some of you are sighing with relief). — Bill Work
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Well, I’m back! Had oodles of fun! As to your knee popping out…what does your doc say? It can be anywhere from old age to a torn anterior cruciate ligament and lots of stuff in between. Need to have a doc lay his hands on you physically and do an ortho exam. — Bill Work
Dr Work I want to thank you for all your help can u answer one more question for me …I need to know why my knee is poping out of place and very painful thank you for all your help have a safe and happy trip Terry * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find
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Well did you pass – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I’m back! Had oodles of fun! As to your knee popping out…what does your doc say? It can be anywhere from old age to a torn anterior cruciate ligament and lots of stuff in between. Need to have a doc lay his hands on you physically and do an ortho exam. — Bill Work message Dr Work I want to thank you for all your help can u answer one more question for me …I need to know why my knee is poping out of place and very painful thank you for all your help have a safe and happy trip Terry * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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I’ll find out by October 1. — Bill Work
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well did you pass Well, I’m back! Had oodles of fun! As to your knee popping out…what does your doc say? It can be anywhere from old age to a torn anterior cruciate ligament and lots of stuff in between. Need to have a doc lay his hands on you physically and do an ortho exam. — Bill Work message Dr Work I want to thank you for all your help can u answer one more question for me …I need to know why my knee is poping out of place and very painful thank you for all your help have a safe and happy trip Terry * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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Geez that is too long to wait. So hmmm I guess we can still toss that coin PHIL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll find out by October 1. — Bill Work Well did you pass Well, I’m back! Had oodles of fun! As to your knee popping out…what does your doc say? It can be anywhere from old age to a torn anterior cruciate ligament and lots of stuff in between. Need to have a doc lay his hands on you physically and do an ortho exam. — Bill Work message Dr Work I want to thank you for all your help can u answer one more question for me …I need to know why my knee is poping out of place and very painful thank you for all your help have a safe and happy trip Terry * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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Newspaper article from Glasgow about the Buteyko method for curing asthma. "Breathe Easily and Learn to Live Again"
Re : Buteyko Method This subject keeps active . I have mild asthma and often feel with a small improvement I could be clear of meds. I live in Dublin Ireland. Is there anyone trained in these methods in this city? Yes I will look up the web site… but is it possible to teach oneself? I often felt that the 10 seconds or so of holding your breath after taking an inhaled med was of positive value in itself. Anne.
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"Breathe Easily and Learn to Live Again" Re : Buteyko Method This subject keeps active . I have mild asthma and often feel with a small improvement I could be clear of meds. I live in Dublin Ireland. Is there anyone trained in these methods in this city? Yes I will look up the web site… but is it possible to teach oneself? I often felt that the 10 seconds or so of holding your breath after taking an inhaled med was of positive value in itself. Anne.
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"Breathe Easily and Learn to Live Again" Re : Buteyko Method This subject keeps active . I have mild asthma and often feel with a small improvement I could be clear of meds. I live in Dublin Ireland. Is there anyone trained in these methods in this city? Yes I will look up the web site… but is it possible to teach oneself? I often felt that the 10 seconds or so of holding your breath after taking an inhaled med was of positive value in itself. Anne. test
From reading the descriptions the author posted, I suspect that you would get the same (or better results) from a well planned excercise program. 20 min a day on an excercise bicycle would imporve lung efficency more.
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Newspaper article from Glasgow about the Buteyko method for curing asthma. "Breathe Easily and Learn to Live Again" Sally Magnusson is impressed with the experience of seeing chronic asthmatics undergoing an apparently miraculous cure – The Herald, Glasgow, 12th August 1996 I have just watched a roomful of people who have suffered terribly from perhaps the most rampant disease of this generation, long thought to be incurable, begin to recover from it. Dramatically. Almost incredibly. Within five days. I am still reeling from the experience, still finding it hard to take in the possibility that my own son, whom I have been pumping full of asthma medication for five of his eight years, could soon be shot of all of his inhalers for good. Some have gone already. He woke this morning without a wheeze, able to breathe freely through his nose for the first time in ages. As I write he is out playing football without ventolin in his pocket. I honestly wouldn’t have believed it when he and I sat down last week in London’s Hale Clinic with 20 fellow asthmatics, including two other young boys. We had come, like everyone else, because I had heard that the Buteyko method of reconditioning your breathing had been producing amazing results in asthmatics, and I was willing to try anything. But we were all pretty sceptical. How, we wondered, as we sat nervously in rows waiting for the first class to begin, could five one-hour lessons in breathing achieve what a lifetime of inhalers and pills and special vacuum cleaners had failed to do? There were people in that class who need nebulizers two or three times just to get through a normal day, people who could no longer climb stairs, people with medicine cabinets like a pharmacy, people of all ages and both sexes whose whole lives were dominated and ruined by the perpetual fight for air. And how ridiculously simple it turned out to be. It wasn’t, we were told, that our bodies were fighting for air at all; they were getting too much of the stuff. The key to this theory is carbon dioxide. For oxygen to pass efficiently into the blood we need a certain amount of carbon dioxide; this is lost when we over-breathe. In other words – and this is standard textbook stuff – by breathing too much we actually get less oxygen. The radical claim made by the Russian physiologist, Professor Konstantin Buteyko, is that asthmatics are three or four times more than they should. They’re not doing it in an acute, obvious way; the crux of Buteyko’s theory is that this over-breathing is often not clearly visible in the patient; it is "hidden hyperventilation". He suggests that diseases such as asthma, hypertension, stenocardia, strokes, haemorrhoids, eczema, and a good many others are the body’s defence mechanisms against the excessive loss of CO2 through over-breathing. So an asthmatic spasm is not a message to the body to breathe more; it’s a plea to breathe less. And the more we force open the airways with bronchodilators like ventolin and take big, deep gulps of air, the more harm we do in the long run. The body simply strengthens its defences and tries to get the message across again, and again, and again. I’m no scientist; I’m certainly no doctor. I’ll leave it to those who are better qualified to assess whether Christopher Drake, the Buteyko practitioner who ran our course, is right to assert that "you can’t have shallow breathing and asthma – the two simply cannot go together". All I can say, mustering as much journalistic detachment as I can, is that it seems to work. And, if he’s right, any asthmatic with the not inconsiderable willpower required to sustain the breathing exercises could be off medications in a matter of weeks. A Multi-million pound pharmaceutical industry would feel the pinch, of course, but I dare say the country’s three million asthmatics could live with that. Sharon Cutler, a 39-year-old teacher from Kent, certainly could. Even I, who had watched her struggle with the Buteyko exercises each evening and gradually begin to master them, was taken aback by the changes she reported at the end of the week. My shorthand could hardly keep up with the outpouring of emotion when I asked her what she thought. "I feel fantastic," she said, "and extraordinarily happy. I’ve had no asthma since the second day. I feel so much more energetic. My appetite’s fallen and my weight has just dropped off. I can walk distances. I can manage stairs. "My life until this week has consisted of going to work, coming home collapsing in a chair, and wheezing. Now I feel as if I’ve got my life back. The only time I felt this good before was in the two or three minutes after I came off the nebulizer. I feel as if I’ve had a body transplant. What have I been doing this past forty years?" Angela McAnally, from Glasgow, said she felt wonderful. "I can’t say how tremendous I feel already." Gary Phillips, from Wales, said he could breathe through his nose for the first time in years. Similar responses were coming from all sides, with the most dramatic results being reported by the most seriously affected asthmatics. One lady told Drake: "Thank you for giving me my life back." Of course only time will tell whether the improvrement continues, especially once the long-term steroid inhalers, which we were urged not to discard too hastily, are reduced. But Christopher Drake claims a 97% long-term success rate, and the tributes of his former pupils certainly back him up. He showed me a letter from Nick Jacobs (34) of London, a chronic asthmatic since the age of six who was on steroids, repeated antibiotics, Serevent twice a day – and felt in a state of permanent decline. "I stopped taking the Ventolin on the third day of your course and have not taken it since", he wrote, "I am now taking no medication whatsoever and I am in control of my asthma. I am beginning to forget that I have asthma at all. "I am shocked and delighted by the efficacy of the method. ‘Miraculous’ is an emotive and non-scientific word but comes closest to describing how I view the application of this simple and logically founded method. I am grateful beyond my ability of expression." So, what happens to achieve such dramatic results so quickly? Well, remarkably little, actually. On each of the five evenings we learned to forget everything we ever imbibed at our mother’s knee about the efficacy of breathing and practiced instead how to take infinitesimal, almost suffocation breaths through the nose. And we learned to stop asthma attacks – which we’re told will happen less and less as shallow breathing becomes second nature – by holding our breath for an inordinate time to get carbon dioxide levels up. As many of the class were soon discovering, these exercises at the first hint of a wheeze will diperse it completely. Within a couple of days, the elderly man on the nebulizer had abandoned it for one puff of ventolin, and by the third day he reported that he had got through a 5am asthma attack spasm with the exercise alone. He felt he was on his way. We were told not to come of steroids too fast. We should wait until we had been clear of symptoms and breathing well for a few weeks and then reduce gradually in consultation with a GP. Christopher Drake, who has overseen the recovery of so many blighted lives in this way, is an angry man. Despite the conclusion of the chair of childhood diseases at the First Moscow Institute that "Buteyko’s method proved to be very efficient in the complex treatment of bronchial asthma", despite authoritative trials in Australia and a success rate of over 90%, Drake can’t get a hearing in Britain. The National Asthma Campaign is dismissive. "There is no medical evidence that a person with stable asthma is consistently over-breathing" it says. Christopher Drake wants to set up British trials to provide the evidence. He wants Buteyko’s reasoning assessed by independent scientists. Above all he wants open minds. Perhaps Scotland’s medical establishment, with it’s proud indepent history, could provide these. "Everyone believes asthma is a complicated, mysterious, disease", he says, "So we spend millions of pounds researching the dust mite that has been with us forever, we clean carpets, we sell the dog, we buy special bedding and afterwards – more asthma. These are only triggers. The simple fact is that asthmatics breathe three or four times more than the physiology books say they should and the medications make it worse." Next month Drake is holding Scotland’s first Buteyko course in Glasgow, preceded by an explanatory seminar that is free and open to all. Every GP, every asthma nurse, everybody who has ever looked into the asthma abyss, and despaired, ought to be there. To find out more take a look at http://www.cix.co.uk/~reardo/buteyko.htm
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Hi. I had a similar experience, so I know something about how you feel. I worked in a small office (around 25 people) where they put up a Christmas tree every year. Since I am highly allergic to mold, I react quite dramatically to Christmas trees. My doctor explained this to me by telling me that most trees that are sold are cut down in September and October, bundled up, and then shipped to be sold in December. During this time mold proliferates and can later cause many problems for those who are sensitive. Anyway, I explained this to the people that I worked with and offered to purchase a realistic looking artificial tree. They refused. Needless to say, when I came into the office the morning after they had set up the tree I had an immediate reaction. I called my doctor who asked me to come into his office right away. He was concerned that I might have suffered permanent lung damage from the experience. He wrote a letter to my boss explaining my sensitivity and the fact that I couldn’t return to work until the tree was removed. Unfortunately, they wouldn’t remove the tree. Although I was paid during my time off, I spent the next three weeks at home feeling just awful that a tree was more important than me. Since I worked for a direct marketing firm and Christmas was our busiest season, I felt even worse that I wasn’t needed. On the bright side, during this time I realized that I really didn’t enjoy my career and quit my job to return to graduate school. (In the long run, my new career wasn’t a good choice for someone with asthma, but that’s another story.) In any case, please realize that you’re not the one with the problem. They are. Good luck. Keep your chin up. Lisa in Chicago " ‘Hope’ is the thing with feathers ~ That perches in the soul ~ And sings the tune without the words ~ And never stops ~ at all." Emily Dickenson, #254, 1861.
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Such a sad story! Maybe if you explain how the cat aggravates your asthma, your employer can make some consessions for you. If you are a good employee they will want to keep you rather than train someone else. Certainly they aren’t so mean-hearted that they won’t work with you. At least you can try. (maybe the cat can be kept out of your work area or given a home with someone from the company.) Good luck. Sarah. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A big thanks to those of you that responded to my post. It does seem rather overwhelming when I think of all the changes asthma is making in my life. I feel very unsettled in some ways. Another thing I am allergic to I recently found out is cats. VERY allergic. My allergist told me there is no way I can work in a house where there is a cat. So now I will be looking for a different job because where I work they have a cat. It’s the best job I’ve ever had, my employers are wonderful and it’s very sad for me to leave. Given the choice between my job and being able to breathe with alot less struggle you all know which wins. Perhaps I’m just feeling sorry for myslef and finding life unfair at the moment but with the hope my asthma will settle down over time and life become more normal it makes it more bearable. Thanks again for your support, Vicky
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A big thanks to those of you that responded to my post. It does seem rather overwhelming when I think of all the changes asthma is making in my life. I feel very unsettled in some ways. Another thing I am allergic to I recently found out is cats. VERY allergic. My allergist told me there is no way I can work in a house where there is a cat. So now I will be looking for a different job because where I work they have a cat. It’s the best job I’ve ever had, my employers are wonderful and it’s very sad for me to leave. Given the choice between my job and being able to breathe with alot less struggle you all know which wins. Perhaps I’m just feeling sorry for myslef and finding life unfair at the moment but with the hope my asthma will settle down over time and life become more normal it makes it more bearable. Thanks again for your support, Vicky
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A big thanks to those of you that responded to my post. It does seem rather overwhelming when I think of all the changes asthma is making in my life. I feel very unsettled in some ways. Another thing I am allergic to I recently found out is cats. VERY allergic. My allergist told me there is no way I can work in a house where there is a cat. So now I will be looking for a different job because where I work they have a cat. It’s the best job I’ve ever had, my employers are wonderful and it’s very sad for me to leave. Given the choice between my job and being able to breathe with alot less struggle you all know which wins. Perhaps I’m just feeling sorry for myslef and finding life unfair at the moment but with the hope my asthma will settle down over time and life become more normal it makes it more bearable. Thanks again for your support, Vicky
Dear Vicky, I’d feel sorry for myself too if I had to leave a job I liked. However, if the cat stays and you are having big problems with asthma because of the cat, you made the right (but tough) decision. This shows great maturity on your part. congratulations to you!!! Sometimes it helps to know that others have had to make similiar choices. I had to give up my cat (a teary situation), but I know I made the right decision. You’re headed in the right direction, and I commend you for your wisdom.
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This post not CC’d by email I just had to post that Chris got his results from all his bloodwork today and after being at 17- something a year ago when he was diagnosed, he came in at 5.6 for his HbA1c. He has really been watching what he eats, lost 70 pounds, has a very physical job, and I nag the heck out of him about what he can and can’t eat.
G’day G’day Lori, IMHO anyone who says "I nag the heck out of him" must be doing it nicely. The ones to watch are those who have to admit they nag a bit. Life with them is being nagged, been nagged and about to be nagged. Obviously you are comfortable with it and so I expect is he. I have changed our eating habits to include everything he can eat and also what my kids will tolerate…and that is not salad!!!
Since "our" include yourself it is easy to see he is lucky in having someone who will walk the extra mile with him. Men aren’t as stupid as they something appear. The actions matter more than the words in setting the frame for interpreting what is said to them. Do you make salads with lettuce? We seldom do or it is a minor component. Often I dice tomatoes, cucumbers, tender courgettes, capsicum (bell peppers) and toss on some goat feta and perhaps some slice hard boiled eggs. Locally we have some white garlic source to which I add orange blossom water which for reason gets people who swear they don’t eat salads eating my salads. When I started reading this newsgroup a couple of months ago, I read up on every little idea or hint everyone posted. After his results today, I want to thank all of you for all your suggestions and help.
Hey we were just nagging …. Changing our diet is not something I dread, it is something I find as a challenge. And thankfully he is willing to try any concoction I dream up….and believe me, some of them have been horrid!!
LOL. Good to see you also laugh. Laughter changes situations faster than logic. Lori
– Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, #,#< [ / / "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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This post not CC'd by email I just had to post that Chris got his results from all his bloodwork today and after being at 17- something a year ago when he was diagnosed, he came in at 5.6 for his HbA1c.
G'day G'day Lori, If it is OK with you the ladies here will do a Snoopy dance for him. It's not quite like lap dancing but we all get a bit excited when people get their A1c below 6. Congratulations to you both. I just think it is fantastic the way you have both dealt with the problem. Somewhere in the remote corners of cyberspace is a secret printing press creating a membership card for the 5% club. In this case I think it should be a family membership. He has really been watching what he eats, lost 70 pounds, has a very physical job, and I nag the heck out of him about what he can and can't eat.
70 lbs = 32 kg. It adds a whole new meaning to vowing to stick together through thick and thin. I have changed our eating habits to include everything he can eat and also what my kids will tolerate...and that is not salad!!! When I started reading this newsgroup a couple of months ago, I read up on every little idea or hint everyone posted. After his results today, I want to thank all of you for all your suggestions and help. Changing our diet is not something I dread, it is something I find as a challenge. And thankfully he is willing to try any concoction I dream up....and believe me, some of them have been horrid!!
One thing I was really impressed with was the willingness to make mistakes in order to learn. It seems sometimes as if we live in a society where people have rather fragile egos when it comes to taking the risk of making mistakes. Such dramatic lifestyle changes as you have made need that sort of courage and the sense of humour to weather the inevitable disasters that happen along the way. He is one lucky bloke. Lori
Best wishes and heaps of further successes in whatever you do together next. -- Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, #,#< [ / / "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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i see you are in the same city as me...... hi ya! who's your endo?? i love Ross k Shaw is based in Calgary, which is why it comes across that way, but I am in BC.
good to meet you, Lori and BIG CONGRATS to Chris for his lifestyle changes (i just read the chocolate thing) kate
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I just had to post that Chris got his results from all his bloodwork today and after being at 17- something a year ago when he was diagnosed, he came in at 5.6 for his HbA1c. snoopy happy dance, congrats to Chris i see you are in the same city as me...... hi ya! who's your endo?? i love Ross k
Shaw is based in Calgary, which is why it comes across that way, but I am in BC. Lori
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I just had to post that Chris got his results from all his bloodwork today and after being at 17- something a year ago when he was diagnosed, he came in at 5.6 for his HbA1c.
snoopy happy dance, congrats to Chris i see you are in the same city as me...... hi ya! who's your endo?? i love Ross k
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I just had to post that Chris got his results from all his bloodwork today and after being at 17- something a year ago when he was diagnosed, he came in at 5.6 for his HbA1c. snoopy happy dance, congrats to Chris i see you are in the same city as me...... hi ya! who's your endo?? i love Ross k
My oh my, congratulations. If you get an earthquack it is me jumping for joy for you. IraT2
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I just had to post that Chris got his results from all his bloodwork today and after being at 17- something a year ago when he was diagnosed, he came in at 5.6 for his HbA1c. He has really been watching what he eats, lost 70 pounds, has a very physical job, and I nag the heck out of him about what he can and can't eat. I have changed our eating habits to include everything he can eat and also what my kids will tolerate...and that is not salad!!! When I started reading this newsgroup a couple of months ago, I read up on every little idea or hint everyone posted. After his results today, I want to thank all of you for all your suggestions and help. Changing our diet is not something I dread, it is something I find as a challenge. And thankfully he is willing to try any concoction I dream up....and believe me, some of them have been horrid!! Lori
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After his results today, I want to thank all of you for all your suggestions and help. Changing our diet is not something I dread, it is something I find as a challenge. And thankfully he is willing to try any concoction I dream up....and believe me, some of them have been horrid!! Lori
Tell Chris congrats on his great numbers and on having such a great better half. VBS As always YMMV and this is JMO Jeanne Type 2 Diagnosed 05/28/02 189/159/120
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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - I just had to post that Chris got his results from all his bloodwork today and after being at 17- something a year ago when he was diagnosed, he came in at 5.6 for his HbA1c. He has really been watching what he eats, lost 70 pounds, has a very physical job, and I nag the heck out of him about what he can and can't eat. I have changed our eating habits to include everything he can eat and also what my kids will tolerate...and that is not salad!!! When I started reading this newsgroup a couple of months ago, I read up on every little idea or hint everyone posted. After his results today, I want to thank all of you for all your suggestions and help. Changing our diet is not something I dread, it is something I find as a challenge. And thankfully he is willing to try any concoction I dream up....and believe me, some of them have been horrid!! Lori
Both of your deserve hearty congratulations. You, for being so supportive and challenging, and Chris for his achievement. It has been hard for both of you, and now you can reap the rewards - an easing up for you, and a better prognosis for him, not to mention how much better he must be feeling. Don't freak out if he lapses on the odd occasion, we all do, and it happens. Don't become a "diabetic police" person. I may sound a bit tough on you, but if he hasn't got the message by now, somethings not right. After 12 mths he should be well into new habits of eating, as long as the right foods are there. And I bet he never wants to go back to feling as sick and miserable as he surely did before. My concern is that if you don't start to let up, he will either become dependant on you to be his concience, or resent you for always checking up on him like a kid. Of course, I am presuming this has not already happened. In that case, ignore my remonstrances - you've done so well to date, who am I to judge? All the best to you both. Annette The best revenge is doing well.
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My concern is that if you don't start to let up, he will either become dependant on you to be his concience, or resent you for always checking up on him like a kid. Of course, I am presuming this has not already happened. In that case, ignore my remonstrances - you've done so well to date, who am I to judge?
It's you being the judges that have helped, so keep on judging! He knows only too well the consequences of not eating properly, his mom had both legs amputated, repeatedly, and died of heart complications from diabetes. The nagging I have to do is to get him to eat when he is working, seems like he gets too pre-occupied and goes too long between eating. I wrote that post on the day I had gone to work with him. I said it's lunch time, knowing he had to eat, and he said I am not hungry. I had a very long conversation with him about not getting too absorbed to eat and waiting until he felt low. Working in the woods, on top of a mountain, with no time limits, clocks, or set meal times, is the hardest part of his diet. There is no breakfast, lunch, dinner like on the weekends. It is 12 hour days, and depending on the amount of physical energy used, eating can sometimes be needed every two hours. Sometimes they consume over 4000 calories a day, due to the altitude and physical aspect. (That is not too much, or unusual, BTW) You should see the size of his lunch box!!! All the best to you both.
Thanks, I plan on growing very old with this guy. 
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I would like to thank all of the people in this group for the loving and caring support given regarding my recent stroke. What a wonderful family I have found here. Thanks so much to all of you. HUGS! and lots of warm fuzzies. Buck
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Buck that's what friends and family are for how's the song go? Lean on me when your not strong, and I'll be your friend, I'll help you lean on. Pam
- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - I would like to thank all of the people in this group for the loving and caring support given regarding my recent stroke. What a wonderful family I have found here. Thanks so much to all of you. HUGS! and lots of warm fuzzies. Buck
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I love that song. Thanks for reminding me about it. Buck - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Buck that's what friends and family are for how's the song go? Lean on me when your not strong, and I'll be your friend, I'll help you lean on. Pam I would like to thank all of the people in this group for the loving and caring support given regarding my recent stroke. What a wonderful family I have found here. Thanks so much to all of you. HUGS! and lots of warm fuzzies. Buck
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Thank ya, hope and pray you are feeling better. Buck
- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Buck I didn't answer in your other thread a sI have been rather sick this week but I was admiring you from afar anyway. Here's the warm fuzzies back at you. And some for your lovely wife. I would like to thank all of the people in this group for the loving and caring support given regarding my recent stroke. What a wonderful family I have found here. Thanks so much to all of you. HUGS! and lots of warm fuzzies. Buck
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Buck I didn't answer in your other thread a sI have been rather sick this week but I was admiring you from afar anyway. Here's the warm fuzzies back at you. And some for your lovely wife.
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No problem Buck, its one of my favorites also, has such a true meaning
- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - I love that song. Thanks for reminding me about it. Buck Buck that's what friends and family are for how's the song go? Lean on me when your not strong, and I'll be your friend, I'll help you to lean on. Pam I would like to thank all of the people in this group for the loving and caring support given regarding my recent stroke. What a wonderful family I have found here. Thanks so much to all of you. HUGS! and lots of warm fuzzies. Buck
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Back at ya, Buck! I would like to thank all of the people in this group for the loving and caring support given regarding my recent stroke. What a wonderful family I have found here. Thanks so much to all of you. HUGS! and lots of warm fuzzies. Buck
-- T2 - Glucophage, diet, and exercise - March '98 Born '47 Another Soggy Seattle Sysop! ICQ #75977612
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Thanks to those of you who answered my questions. We came here knowing more about pumping than those who live in the u.s. For so advanced a country (supposedly) you seem to be so far behind in technology and medicine. It is no wonder that Europe and the Middle East look upon the u.s. as rather mindless children with no direction other than by politician who look foolish to the rest of us. So for now shalem alekium! We go to England tomorrow for a dig for a couple of months and then on to Iraq for another dig and then back to King Faid University. This has been very interesting! Visiting prople who are so provincial is always an experience. Good luck in your various treatments for your diseases. Maris "Save the children of the Desert those not of the house of the infidel"
Ignore the troll.
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(Jmmbear) writes: Not sure if I should be insulted or just say goodbye. 
Jeanne Type 2 Diagnosed 05/28/02 189/177/120
oh well, after really looking at her post. I decided to be insulted. So Just go away. You are not even worth my time. Jeanne Type 2 Diagnosed 05/28/02 189/177/120
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Thanks to those of you who answered my questions. We came here knowing more about pumping than those who live in the u.s. For so advanced a country (supposedly) you seem to be so far behind in technology and medicine. It is no wonder that Europe and the Middle East look upon the u.s. as rather mindless children with no direction other than by politician who look foolish to the rest of us. So for now shalem alekium! We go to England tomorrow for a dig for a couple of months and then on to Iraq for another dig and then back to King Faid University. This has been very interesting! Visiting prople who are so provincial is always an experience. Good luck in your various treatments for your diseases. Maris "Save the children of the Desert those not of the house of the infidel"
I worked with a brilliant Hungarian Engineer. He admitted he had not understood the US. He had not seen the hard working people in the real US. I worked with another European and he though we were clods. The list projects he screwed up was very long. He always had an excuse and was good at excuses and buck passing. All other people see is the publicity hounds and money chasers. Behind that is a majority of good hard working people. And a group of very good scientists. They are not great at bragging. Guy
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You have a terrible attitude. I feel sad for you. Possbily you should quit messing around with "digging up bones" and start educating yourself on how to deal with the living. This is not a "provincial" country. The United States is a country that consists of many ethnic groups, and as such, we can hardly be called narrow or limited, if that is the meaning you were aiming for in your use of the word "provincial". Also, if we know so little about medicine and how to treat certain diseases, than why do many from other countries come here for their treatment? Of course, there is always room for improvement no matter where you live, but I doubt that you would admit that. Just a thought. Dot Type 2 Diag 8/2001 - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Thanks to those of you who answered my questions. We came here knowing more about pumping than those who live in the u.s. For so advanced a country (supposedly) you seem to be so far behind in technology and medicine. It is no wonder that Europe and the Middle East look upon the u.s. as rather mindless children with no direction other than by politician who look foolish to the rest of us. So for now shalem alekium! We go to England tomorrow for a dig for a couple of months and then on to Iraq for another dig and then back to King Faid University. This has been very interesting! Visiting prople who are so provincial is always an experience. Good luck in your various treatments for your diseases. Maris "Save the children of the Desert those not of the house of the infidel"
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Not to mention that this horrid country was good enough to give Maris a formal education. Maris, God loves you even with all that hatred in your heart, so don't give up hope. Love conquers all. Have a safe trip home. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -You have a terrible attitude.
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Maris said.... - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Thanks to those of you who answered my questions. We came here knowing more about pumping than those who live in the u.s. For so advanced a country (supposedly) you seem to be so far behind in technology and medicine. It is no wonder that Europe and the Middle East look upon the u.s. as rather mindless children with no direction other than by politician who look foolish to the rest of us. So for now shalem alekium! We go to England tomorrow for a dig for a couple of months and then on to Iraq for another dig and then back to King Faid University. This has been very interesting! Visiting prople who are so provincial is always an experience. Good luck in your various treatments for your diseases. Maris "Save the children of the Desert those not of the house of the infidel"
Rather than visit England for a couple of months, could you possibly just fuck off back where you came from? Britain is a broadly tolerant society. We welcome many different nationalities. People with their head shoved up their Islamic terrorist brainwashed arses are not exactly welcome here. True believers in the Koran are always welcome. Not shit like you. As for "children of the desert", the Koran says that the "people of the book" are to be cherished. Meaning Christians and Jews. Let's see your terrorist-loving sensibility worm out of that one. Ratty -- All killer no filler ratty at flyingrat.net New webthingy is www.flyingrat.net
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This has been very interesting! Visiting prople who are so provincial is always an experience. Good luck in your various treatments for your diseases. Maris "Save the children of the Desert those not of the house of the infidel"
Not sure if I should be insulted or just say goodbye. Jeanne Type 2 Diagnosed 05/28/02 189/177/120
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What country are you from, Maris??? Let something happen in Europe & the Middle East & see who they come running to for protection. The next time Iraq attacks a Middle East country I hope the U.S. stays out of it & lets them get their ass kicked. Of course I don't mean Israel, they can take on the Middle East. I do take exception to your post.
- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Thanks to those of you who answered my questions. We came here knowing more about pumping than those who live in the u.s. For so advanced a country (supposedly) you seem to be so far behind in technology and medicine. It is no wonder that Europe and the Middle East look upon the u.s. as rather mindless children with no direction other than by politician who look foolish to the rest of us. So for now shalem alekium! We go to England tomorrow for a dig for a couple of months and then on to Iraq for another dig and then back to King Faid University. This has been very interesting! Visiting prople who are so provincial is always an experience. Good luck in your various treatments for your diseases. Maris "Save the children of the Desert those not of the house of the infidel"
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Thanks to those of you who answered my questions. We came here knowing more about pumping than those who live in the u.s. For so advanced a country (supposedly) you seem to be so far behind in technology and medicine. It is no wonder that Europe and the Middle East look upon the u.s. as rather mindless children with no direction other than by politician who look foolish to the rest of us. So for now shalem alekium! We go to England tomorrow for a dig for a couple of months and then on to Iraq for another dig and then back to King Faid University. This has been very interesting! Visiting prople who are so provincial is always an experience. Good luck in your various treatments for your diseases. Maris "Save the children of the Desert those not of the house of the infidel"
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Thank you too Mary Beth. I feel blessed to be part of this group too. Sometimes it is nice just to know that there are still people in this world that 'care' about you and coming here is a bonus. The people here care about this special love we share with these companions of ours. Coming here has also afforded me the chance to learn. I am trying to learn how to be less judgemental. I am trying to learn how to listen with a more understanding heart and a less critical ear. It takes practice though and I'm not there yet. Thanks for your support MaryBeth. Thanks to everyone else too for all of their support, especially when my brave little friend and soulmate Lucky lost his long fight for more life. It was so nice to know there were others who understood that FOREVER wouldn't have been long enough. Not one person here said, "Be happy he lived so long!" That...is amazing. That...is proof of man's compassionate soul.
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But the joy was endless and so if pain is the price we must pay for the chance to share so much **magic and pure love**
Oh geeeze KP, even tho I haven't gone thru the loss of a dog, I do know what you mean here. I was laying in bed last nite, with Rudy, and we were 'talking' to each other, a lot. He does this kind of weird different inflection type moaning. Not sure how to explain it, but it seems that no matter what I say to him, his response is just like a regular conversation. He answers with different sounds to match exactly my thoughts. I TREASURE this time with him so much. While we were there last nite, I kept looking at him and just running my fingers softly down his face, (which he *loves*), and telling him just how lucky I felt having him in my life. I've had such a hard time since I've adopted him at 8 weeks old, he's been thru all of it with me, he now will be 9 in Feb. and it breaks my heart, to think ahead. But then I think of how lucky I am to have him with me, NOW. I truly believe that the powers that be, wherever, have sent him to me, to help me thru this time, and for him to have a very loving and adoring companion in me, too. I worship the ground he walks on, and I would literally give my right arm if I could keep him with me forever. I never knew such love before, and never thought I would love a dog like this. I have others, but he's my special once in a life time dog. I'm sure you and Sue know what I mean. I am so very sorry for all the losses of beloved pets, and can only try and stay in the now, and not project into the future, I'll have enough of that when that time comes. But I just get so overwhelmed by the love I have for him, and it blows me away. I feel so grateful to have this group to share with and to comfort and to just let it out. I'm really proud and honored by what you and Sue and many others have shared about your lives with your dogs. Thanks, MaryBeth
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Sue, I am sure sorry to hear about your baby "Jadee". Of course there is nothing I can say to ease this pain, and I'm living proof that the amount of time we have with these angels has no impact on the grief that comes when we lose them. My "Lucky" was old and if he lived to be 100 I'm sure I'd think we were short-changed because 100 yrs. wasn't long enough! There IS no "long enough"...just as having them for a short amount of time is no measure for that same unmeasurable grief that soaks the heart to a point that the sorrow seems like Forever. The way I look at is this: Sure the pain is horrible. But the joy was endless and so if pain is the price we must pay for the chance to share so much magic and pure love, then believe me...I will consider it worth every ounce of that sorrow FOREVER. And because of your love and the courage of the battle you waged against Jadee's illness...others, like me, will remember Jadee and already, a 'good thing' has come from this experience. Jadee; Lucky; so many other Little Angels...all off on the next leg of their own journey...all off to find their Destiny. Thanks for letting us in on a small part of it all.
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He is also still on his Rimadyl too.
There has been alot of controversy on the use of Rimadly! Just wanted to point this out to you. I had a good link for info but I think it's on another screenname. If interested, email me, and I'll try to find it. Or, just do an online search on it. Wondering if you considered the femoral head removal? Not sure how that would work in your situation but thought I'd mention it. My dog had this surgery on both sides and it did help him alot. Debbie
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I just want to say thank you to all of you who answered my posts awhile back. It was quite awhile ago. It was in regards to Desi having a hip replacement surgery for dysplasia and about the bad time he had at the vet hospital. To remind you, Desi was supposed to be at the University for only 10 days and he was there for 3 weeks. He had softer bones than they expected and they accidentally drilled the hole for the socket to big. They also broke his leg when they drilled the hole. He then developed a fever ranging from 103 to 104.5. Desi has been at home now for the past year and the hip has not compensated for the other hip like we hoped it would. He had hip dysplasia in both hips. He is still having problems with the other hip. Because of the problems from before we will not have the other hip replaced. So now he is on Glucosamine and Chronditin (sp.) 3 times a day. His attitude is great but he has his bad days too. He is also still on his Rimadyl too. I just wanted to update you and say thank you to you all. Sue E. & Desi
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last.... but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can't thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin' strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn't even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn't have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don't desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don't intend to desert it, and hope the 'experienced hands' will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." - Zen proverb
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To the many people here who are sincere in your efforts to help thank you. For those just interested in judging I'm sorry you have such a sad life with no room for compassion and understanding for others.
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I have no compassion for people who try to unload a very ill dog onto someone else because they can't or WON'T handle it, INSTEAD of having said animal put down, as it should be. A dog who has 7-8 seizures in a 24 hour period WHILE it's taking medication AND attacks people because of said disease can not and will not have a normal or happy life no matter what situation you put it in. In fact a change in its everyday routine or situation (ie; "rehoming") can potentially make the problem worse and unfortunately, probably will. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - To the many people here who are sincere in your efforts to help thank you. For those just interested in judging I'm sorry you have such a sad life with no room for compassion and understanding for others.
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Great! Gail - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - I want to thank everyone who gave me advice on how to make Shadow company in our new house. He was scared for the first two days then he finally left the bathroom and has gone back to his normal routines, and loves the screen porch. In case anyone else going to move their indoor cat what I did was. 1) on moving day I brought him over to the bathroom and put his favorite blanket, food dish, water dish, and litter box so he had something familiar and he was out of the way. 2) I put all the furnature in the living room in the exact position we had it in the apartment. He would not come out of the bathroom for day one. Day two h tired expolring but would only go in the living room on the couch then back in the bathroom. Day 3 he greated me when my alarm went off upstarirs:). He has been in everyroom and on every window sill and even wanted to play fetch. H's completly back to normal and didn't seem to mind when I moved the living room furnatto where I wanted it and then put his things where they belong. -Margaret -- \ o o |/ o o |/ / Let it snow!! http://www.oswego.edu/~es_ind04 /// "There is such a thing as a stupid question. Its the one that is never asked." - MMS
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I want to thank everyone who gave me advice on how to make Shadow company in our new house. He was scared for the first two days then he finally left the bathroom and has gone back to his normal routines, and loves the screen porch. In case anyone else going to move their indoor cat what I did was. 1) on moving day I brought him over to the bathroom and put his favorite blanket, food dish, water dish, and litter box so he had something familiar and he was out of the way. 2) I put all the furnature in the living room in the exact position we had it in the apartment. He would not come out of the bathroom for day one. Day two h tired expolring but would only go in the living room on the couch then back in the bathroom. Day 3 he greated me when my alarm went off upstarirs:). He has been in everyroom and on every window sill and even wanted to play fetch. H's completly back to normal and didn't seem to mind when I moved the living room furnatto where I wanted it and then put his things where they belong. -Margaret -- \ o o |/ o o
|/ / Let it snow!! http://www.oswego.edu/~es_ind04 /// "There is such a thing as a stupid question. Its the one that is never asked." - MMS
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Hi all, Thank you for all your great ideas to keep my cat out of the plants. Hope something will work. She is also eating the plant and putting her kittylitter out of her box. She has all the toys a cat can get(scratching post, boxes, toys...) and we play with her all day long to get her tired but she is still acting like this. She would never let me get any sleep at night. I love my cat but just dont know how to deal with her anymore. She is destroying everything she can and she is only 5 months old. Sometimes I try to convince myself that she will grow out of it but some other times I am really wondering if it will happen. That cat mean a lot to me but I also need to sleep and try to keep our apt in shape. Thanks for everything to you all... JB
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I love my cat but just dont know how to deal with her anymore. She is destroying everything she can and she is only 5 months old. Sometimes I try to convince myself that she will grow out of it but some other times I am really wondering if it will happen.
At 5 months, my younger cat did an incredible (expensive) amount of damage. She did grow out of it. Good luck! Alice
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To those who responded with caring and concern to my last post, I want to say a heartfelt thank-you. As it turned out, my cat was all right, and almost immediately stopped coughing blood after I posted. I did take her to the vet the day after, and she was given a clean bill of health. Her activity and appitite have been fine since, and I can honestly say I am clueless as to why an otherwise healthy animal was coughing blood to begin with. To those who felt the need to berate me, and my honest request in a time of great stress and anxiety, I can only say I hope you are never put in the same situation. It certainly did not help make a bad situation any better.
I'm glad your cat is alright, Jamie, but quite honestly, if I ever found myself in the same situation, I would be getting my cat to the vet, not wasting time posting to the newsgoup. I feel quite strongly that you were dead wrong and have no remorse about berating you.
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To those who responded with caring and concern to my last post, I want to say a heartfelt thank-you. As it turned out, my cat was all right, and almost immediately stopped coughing blood after I posted. I did take her to the vet the day after, and she was given a clean bill of health. Her activity and appitite have been fine since, and I can honestly say I am clueless as to why an otherwise healthy animal was coughing blood to begin with. To those who felt the need to berate me, and my honest request in a time of great stress and anxiety, I can only say I hope you are never put in the same situation. It certainly did not help make a bad situation any better. Yours sincerely, Jamie Riemersma
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Melanie....... Your search will complete itself when you least expect it. They have a way of finding us at the weirdest times. If you wish to ask any advice about Sibes, please feel free to contact us at your convenience. We have four of the little beauties and there are things you should know about them. They are the most wonderous dogs you could imagine....smart, loving, energetic (!)...but...they aren't for everyone. But on them cold nights.......can't be beat! LOL Rich and Karen Mahn Quinn, 'Kasha, Cyrrah and Junior Just remove the spamout I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here.
I am contacting rescues for Shibas, - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn't take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone.
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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone -- human, male, female, canine, whatever -- like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually -- I don't know why -- I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn't take too long. My leash hand is empty.
Melanie - Your tribute to Harley was so beautiful and touching - the special bond you shared is something that you will always treasure. They are never here long enough, but the happiness they bring and their unquestioning devotion are so enriching that we are always ready to open our hearts to another. You will know when you meet the right girl. I'll keep my eyes open - State College isn't too far away. Take care. Carla H. State College, PA Centre County PAWS http://epimedia.com/PAWS
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(Harley, forgive me.)
You'll find there's nothing that needs forgiving. Getting your next dog is a celebration of the good times you had with the last one. You never forget the first dog, because she's the one who taught you about loving and caring for dogs. Getting your next dog is just the natural process of applying what your first dog has taught you. It isn't easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare.
Don't worry about comparisons - the new dog is an addition to your life full of dogs, not a replacement. - ANDREA -- Get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BFN610 ANDROMEDA - Internet Goddess Bloodaxe's History Links: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5055/ The Loony Bin Archive: http://loonies.net800.co.uk/
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-She said that maybe Harley was a person in her -last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, -but as a dog with a nice cushy life. I love this idea. Now I have to figure out what I can do to *mess up* just enough so that I have a life like Harley's next time 'round. I'd take it over being a people any day! Good luck in your search for a new furbaby. I would suggest not ruling out males, though. My family has always had female dogs, but now that I have boys I doubt I will ever go back. I know the right dog is out there for you, and there's always the chance it might be a boy. You wouldn't want to overlook him if it is!
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Melaine, don't ever feel like you're betraying Harley by wanting another beastie, she'd want you to share the love. There are no replacements, only additions. I'm with you on meeting them again one day, am unable to believe that such pure and unconditional love is given to us and then taken away forever. Good luck on your search! Trish
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I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel.
Oh Melanie, you and Harley fought so bravely. I'm so sorry for you, but happy that you and little Harley found each other and that you have such good memories. The bad will fade but the good will be with you always. Take care of yourself now, and know that we have no control over the creator, but that you did the very best you could for her. Lois E. Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Still Only $9.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com With Servers In California, Texas And Virginia - The Worlds Uncensored News Source
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: I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn't : the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. It really does happen. You can love another dog. They are all so special and unique. A little over 5 years ago I had to put down my English Springer Spaniel of 13 years. Even though I've loved all of my dogs, he was the one that was extra special. I couldn't believe that horrible day had finally come. I was just standing there in the vet's office with an empty collar and leash in my hand and I couldn't hold back the tears. A woman who was waiting to see the vet came up to me and put her arms around me and gave me a hug. After she expressed her condolences, she whispered in my ear, "There are so many more out there that need your love." I have no idea who that woman was. I never will. But I will never forget her or her kindness or her words that ultimately rang so true. I really didn't believe her at the time. I thought my world was over. But she was right, and I'm sure you'll find that out too, if you haven't already.
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Melanie, I know I have responded to another message, but this message really has me so torn up. I hope you find your little furface soon. I can certainly feel and relate to your pain. There is little I can say or do to really comfort you, but I wish I could. I can only pray that Harley sends you another friend soon. Gwen - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn't take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone.
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Melanie - Any dog who finds you to be the owner will be very lucky. And tell your mom from me I think people who are lucky in this life get to come back as dogs belonging to good people instead of being stuck as striving humans 
This is what I'm thinking. Maybe in my next life I'll catch a break and come back as a well loved Basenji. 'Til then I gotta keep racking up that good karma. -- Andrea Stone Saorsa Basenjis "The average dog is a nicer person than the average person." -- Andrew A. Rooney
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I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open.
Refer them to old Sigmund ( a chow-person, I believe). Freud said our dog is "the one being we never, for a moment, wished dead." Melanie, please try to avoid the trap, when you think about Harley, of seeking out little lapses you can blame yourself for. I still do that about my OES who died years ago: "If only I had found the _perfect diet, if only I had, if only....."
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Melanie - Any dog who finds you to be the owner will be very lucky. And tell your mom from me I think people who are lucky in this life get to come back as dogs belonging to good people instead of being stuck as striving humans Remember the new companion to be should be carefully chosen with lots of logic and realistic consideration of circumstances and then a goodly sized addition of instinct and heart. None will be like Harley but a new friend can help you change from sorrowful thoughts only to fond and happy memories. Nancy - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone -- human, male, female, canine, whatever -- like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. Harley was my first dog. I guess I just got real lucky that I started out with such a special one. For those of you who haven't known us or heard the story, I actually found Harley on rec.pets.dogs (back when it was all one newsgroup). So, this little corner of Usenet is pretty special to me for a number of reasons. When I started looking for a dog in late 1993, I was thinking 80-pound malamute. Back then, I thought if it didn't weigh over 50 pounds, it wasn't a dog. (Isn't that funny?) I posted something to the effect of "I'm starting graduate school in the fall and want to adopt a puppy. I like [every huge spitz breed] and Border Collies. I am going to take the puppy to school with me and have it sleep under the desk while I am in class." After being roundly lambasted for my stupidity and naivete, I realized that my plan was a little bit unrealistic. What puppy was going to sleep through class? I also realized that with apartment living a smaller dog was going to be a better idea (mostly due to landlord restrictions — heh). Still committed to the spitz concept, I started looking at smaller ones. Pomeranians were a bit smaller than I had bargained for, but I liked that they were all spitz, just scaled down. And, I had to admit, they were pretty damn cute. Then, one day, I saw a post on the newsgroup: "Pomeranian needs home." "A friend of mine is caring for a one-year-old spayed Pom dog, she is a doll. She loves to cuddle, and go for rides." And it was true. And everyone thought I would never be able to train a dog to go to class with me. Well, actually, I guess I can’t really take the credit for that. I just got lucky, again. Harley came that way. (She also came with the name "Muffie," but we did something about that right away.) Harley was carrying a special soul and even my mother, a card-carrying Buddhist, agrees. (And Mom doesn’t even really like dogs. She loved Harley though. She used to say that Harley was "yangban," or high class, because everything she did was so tidy and perfect and she carried herself like a lady. It was true.) She said that maybe Harley was a person in her last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, but as a dog with a nice cushy life. And the reason she had to go so soon is that she had more than made up for whatever she did before. Even though I have never subscribed to any religion, of any flavor, I think that I will meet Harley again. My mother said Harley might even come back as my daughter. It might almost be worth having a kid for that. Right? Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare. While I was in Virginia during the weekend, I went to the animal shelter to see if I could love another dog. I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn’t the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. (Actually I am pretty certain she was a collie/BC mix. This shelter is notorious for horrifying breed misidentifications: the tag on the kennel said "German Shepherd/Cocker Spaniel mix." !!! Anyone looking for a nice BC cross in Northern Virginia? Call Fairfax County Animal Control and ask them about Emma.) What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually — I don’t know why — I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone. * By the way, if anyone wants an honest-to-God lurcher in the Philly area, they have a nice one at the Morris Animal Refuge. Her name is Nadia and she is listed as a "terrier X" which I am sure she is, but I am certain the other half is whippet or greyhound. She’s like a little golden wire-haired gazelle. I can’t adopt from this shelter because they actually do call your landlord to see if you can have a dog. But I figured someone who can might like Nadia. — Melanie Lee Chang | Repetition is the death Departments of Anthropology and Biology | of art. University of Pennsylvania |
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare. So we will bring another into our house who will fill the common physical things that the loss of Schautzie has created, but they will never fill any of the loss that is there from not having our unique loving girl here with us any longer. What they will do however is start to create another space in our lives which doesn’t exist right now that only they can fill. Gary
Oh Gary and Melanie, Both of your messages have me in tears. I know so well the pain. I am so sorry to hear about both of your dogs. You are right about never being able to replace the one and yet you have opened your heart up and your home to another who needs your love and devotion in exchange for the same. I had a terrible experience that occured in late August the pain is still very much there and will be for a lifetime. I have gone to the pet grieving group for kind support and it has helped, but it will never get me over what I did. Take care both of you and open your hearts up to another furface soon. Gwen
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Melanie, I wish I could be lucky enough to return to this earth as your dog. 
) Carol – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone — human, male, female, canine, whatever — like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. Harley was my first dog. I guess I just got real lucky that I started out with such a special one. For those of you who haven’t known us or heard the story, I actually found Harley on rec.pets.dogs (back when it was all one newsgroup). So, this little corner of Usenet is pretty special to me for a number of reasons. When I started looking for a dog in late 1993, I was thinking 80-pound malamute. Back then, I thought if it didn’t weigh over 50 pounds, it wasn’t a dog. (Isn’t that funny?) I posted something to the effect of "I’m starting graduate school in the fall and want to adopt a puppy. I like [every huge spitz breed] and Border Collies. I am going to take the puppy to school with me and have it sleep under the desk while I am in class." After being roundly lambasted for my stupidity and naivete, I realized that my plan was a little bit unrealistic. What puppy was going to sleep through class? I also realized that with apartment living a smaller dog was going to be a better idea (mostly due to landlord restrictions — heh). Still committed to the spitz concept, I started looking at smaller ones. Pomeranians were a bit smaller than I had bargained for, but I liked that they were all spitz, just scaled down. And, I had to admit, they were pretty damn cute. Then, one day, I saw a post on the newsgroup: "Pomeranian needs home." "A friend of mine is caring for a one-year-old spayed Pom dog, she is a doll. She loves to cuddle, and go for rides." And it was true. And everyone thought I would never be able to train a dog to go to class with me. Well, actually, I guess I can’t really take the credit for that. I just got lucky, again. Harley came that way. (She also came with the name "Muffie," but we did something about that right away.) Harley was carrying a special soul and even my mother, a card-carrying Buddhist, agrees. (And Mom doesn’t even really like dogs. She loved Harley though. She used to say that Harley was "yangban," or high class, because everything she did was so tidy and perfect and she carried herself like a lady. It was true.) She said that maybe Harley was a person in her last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, but as a dog with a nice cushy life. And the reason she had to go so soon is that she had more than made up for whatever she did before. Even though I have never subscribed to any religion, of any flavor, I think that I will meet Harley again. My mother said Harley might even come back as my daughter. It might almost be worth having a kid for that. Right? Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare. While I was in Virginia during the weekend, I went to the animal shelter to see if I could love another dog. I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn’t the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. (Actually I am pretty certain she was a collie/BC mix. This shelter is notorious for horrifying breed misidentifications: the tag on the kennel said "German Shepherd/Cocker Spaniel mix." !!! Anyone looking for a nice BC cross in Northern Virginia? Call Fairfax County Animal Control and ask them about Emma.) What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually — I don’t know why — I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone. * By the way, if anyone wants an honest-to-God lurcher in the Philly area, they have a nice one at the Morris Animal Refuge. Her name is Nadia and she is listed as a "terrier X" which I am sure she is, but I am certain the other half is whippet or greyhound. She’s like a little golden wire-haired gazelle. I can’t adopt from this shelter because they actually do call your landlord to see if you can have a dog. But I figured someone who can might like Nadia. — Melanie Lee Chang | Repetition is the death Departments of Anthropology and Biology | of art. University of Pennsylvania |
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Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare.
Both statements are true and separate. We had to put our Schautzie to sleep eleven days ago. There are two separate components that occur, the grieving over the unique life that has been lost, and the loss of the companionship and all the common physical things that go with having a good dog, the companionship, the areas of the house that just don’t look right without a dog lieing there, and millions of others. In getting a new dog, those are the things we replace, not the unique life we were privleged to share. I went to the shelter a couple of days ago to pick up some German Shepherd Dog mugs that they had that no place else did. In spite of the pain, I had to look at the available dogs that were there, dog after dog wagging and kissing and wanting what we had available, a home that could give them love and people to be with. So we will bring another into our house who will fill the common physical things that the loss of Schautzie has created, but they will never fill any of the loss that is there from not having our unique loving girl here with us any longer. What they will do however is start to create another space in our lives which doesn’t exist right now that only they can fill. Gary
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I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone — human, male, female, canine, whatever — like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. Harley was my first dog. I guess I just got real lucky that I started out with such a special one. For those of you who haven’t known us or heard the story, I actually found Harley on rec.pets.dogs (back when it was all one newsgroup). So, this little corner of Usenet is pretty special to me for a number of reasons. When I started looking for a dog in late 1993, I was thinking 80-pound malamute. Back then, I thought if it didn’t weigh over 50 pounds, it wasn’t a dog. (Isn’t that funny?) I posted something to the effect of "I’m starting graduate school in the fall and want to adopt a puppy. I like [every huge spitz breed] and Border Collies. I am going to take the puppy to school with me and have it sleep under the desk while I am in class." After being roundly lambasted for my stupidity and naivete, I realized that my plan was a little bit unrealistic. What puppy was going to sleep through class? I also realized that with apartment living a smaller dog was going to be a better idea (mostly due to landlord restrictions — heh). Still committed to the spitz concept, I started looking at smaller ones. Pomeranians were a bit smaller than I had bargained for, but I liked that they were all spitz, just scaled down. And, I had to admit, they were pretty damn cute. Then, one day, I saw a post on the newsgroup: "Pomeranian needs home." "A friend of mine is caring for a one-year-old spayed Pom dog, she is a doll. She loves to cuddle, and go for rides." And it was true. And everyone thought I would never be able to train a dog to go to class with me. Well, actually, I guess I can’t really take the credit for that. I just got lucky, again. Harley came that way. (She also came with the name "Muffie," but we did something about that right away.) Harley was carrying a special soul and even my mother, a card-carrying Buddhist, agrees. (And Mom doesn’t even really like dogs. She loved Harley though. She used to say that Harley was "yangban," or high class, because everything she did was so tidy and perfect and she carried herself like a lady. It was true.) She said that maybe Harley was a person in her last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, but as a dog with a nice cushy life. And the reason she had to go so soon is that she had more than made up for whatever she did before. Even though I have never subscribed to any religion, of any flavor, I think that I will meet Harley again. My mother said Harley might even come back as my daughter. It might almost be worth having a kid for that. Right? Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare. While I was in Virginia during the weekend, I went to the animal shelter to see if I could love another dog. I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn’t the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. (Actually I am pretty certain she was a collie/BC mix. This shelter is notorious for horrifying breed misidentifications: the tag on the kennel said "German Shepherd/Cocker Spaniel mix." !!! Anyone looking for a nice BC cross in Northern Virginia? Call Fairfax County Animal Control and ask them about Emma.) What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually — I don’t know why — I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone. * By the way, if anyone wants an honest-to-God lurcher in the Philly area, they have a nice one at the Morris Animal Refuge. Her name is Nadia and she is listed as a "terrier X" which I am sure she is, but I am certain the other half is whippet or greyhound. She’s like a little golden wire-haired gazelle. I can’t adopt from this shelter because they actually do call your landlord to see if you can have a dog. But I figured someone who can might like Nadia. — Melanie Lee Chang | Repetition is the death Departments of Anthropology and Biology | of art. University of Pennsylvania |
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Thank you too Mary Beth. I feel blessed to be part of this group too. Sometimes it is nice just to know that there are still people in this world that ‘care’ about you and coming here is a bonus. The people here care about this special love we share with these companions of ours. Coming here has also afforded me the chance to learn. I am trying to learn how to be less judgemental. I am trying to learn how to listen with a more understanding heart and a less critical ear. It takes practice though and I’m not there yet. Thanks for your support MaryBeth. Thanks to everyone else too for all of their support, especially when my brave little friend and soulmate Lucky lost his long fight for more life. It was so nice to know there were others who understood that FOREVER wouldn’t have been long enough. Not one person here said, "Be happy he lived so long!" That…is amazing. That…is proof of man’s compassionate soul.
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But the joy was endless and so if pain is the price we must pay for the chance to share so much **magic and pure love**
Oh geeeze KP, even tho I haven’t gone thru the loss of a dog, I do know what you mean here. I was laying in bed last nite, with Rudy, and we were ‘talking’ to each other, a lot. He does this kind of weird different inflection type moaning. Not sure how to explain it, but it seems that no matter what I say to him, his response is just like a regular conversation. He answers with different sounds to match exactly my thoughts. I TREASURE this time with him so much. While we were there last nite, I kept looking at him and just running my fingers softly down his face, (which he *loves*), and telling him just how lucky I felt having him in my life. I’ve had such a hard time since I’ve adopted him at 8 weeks old, he’s been thru all of it with me, he now will be 9 in Feb. and it breaks my heart, to think ahead. But then I think of how lucky I am to have him with me, NOW. I truly believe that the powers that be, wherever, have sent him to me, to help me thru this time, and for him to have a very loving and adoring companion in me, too. I worship the ground he walks on, and I would literally give my right arm if I could keep him with me forever. I never knew such love before, and never thought I would love a dog like this. I have others, but he’s my special once in a life time dog. I’m sure you and Sue know what I mean. I am so very sorry for all the losses of beloved pets, and can only try and stay in the now, and not project into the future, I’ll have enough of that when that time comes. But I just get so overwhelmed by the love I have for him, and it blows me away. I feel so grateful to have this group to share with and to comfort and to just let it out. I’m really proud and honored by what you and Sue and many others have shared about your lives with your dogs. Thanks, MaryBeth
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Sue, I am sure sorry to hear about your baby "Jadee". Of course there is nothing I can say to ease this pain, and I’m living proof that the amount of time we have with these angels has no impact on the grief that comes when we lose them. My "Lucky" was old and if he lived to be 100 I’m sure I’d think we were short-changed because 100 yrs. wasn’t long enough! There IS no "long enough"…just as having them for a short amount of time is no measure for that same unmeasurable grief that soaks the heart to a point that the sorrow seems like Forever. The way I look at is this: Sure the pain is horrible. But the joy was endless and so if pain is the price we must pay for the chance to share so much magic and pure love, then believe me…I will consider it worth every ounce of that sorrow FOREVER. And because of your love and the courage of the battle you waged against Jadee’s illness…others, like me, will remember Jadee and already, a ‘good thing’ has come from this experience. Jadee; Lucky; so many other Little Angels…all off on the next leg of their own journey…all off to find their Destiny. Thanks for letting us in on a small part of it all.
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He is also still on his Rimadyl too.
There has been alot of controversy on the use of Rimadly! Just wanted to point this out to you. I had a good link for info but I think it’s on another screenname. If interested, email me, and I’ll try to find it. Or, just do an online search on it. Wondering if you considered the femoral head removal? Not sure how that would work in your situation but thought I’d mention it. My dog had this surgery on both sides and it did help him alot. Debbie
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I just want to say thank you to all of you who answered my posts awhile back. It was quite awhile ago. It was in regards to Desi having a hip replacement surgery for dysplasia and about the bad time he had at the vet hospital. To remind you, Desi was supposed to be at the University for only 10 days and he was there for 3 weeks. He had softer bones than they expected and they accidentally drilled the hole for the socket to big. They also broke his leg when they drilled the hole. He then developed a fever ranging from 103 to 104.5. Desi has been at home now for the past year and the hip has not compensated for the other hip like we hoped it would. He had hip dysplasia in both hips. He is still having problems with the other hip. Because of the problems from before we will not have the other hip replaced. So now he is on Glucosamine and Chronditin (sp.) 3 times a day. His attitude is great but he has his bad days too. He is also still on his Rimadyl too. I just wanted to update you and say thank you to you all. Sue E. & Desi
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last…. but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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I am so sorry for your lost. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, I just wanted to thank you all for the numerous emails and posts that you have sent since we lost Jadee (and during the whole ordeal). I know I am not the first to have gone through this, nor will I be the last…. but it was a first for me. My first dog who you all helped me raise, and my first dog, who you all helped me say good-bye to. Thank you for letting me brag. Thank you for letting me cry. Thank you for helping me heal. We are not over the loss, nor will we ever be, I suspect. But I have been able to cope, greatly due to the incredible support we received both online and IRL. Please give your pups a hug and a kiss for me, and throw the ball a few times for Jadee. Sue missing Jadee
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can’t thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin’ strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn’t even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn’t have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don’t desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
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A few months ago I asked the NG for help in training my partially blind Shih Tzu puppy. I can’t thank you enough times for all the helpful suggestions, Bob Maida, thank you for turning me on to clicker training I am using it for the puppy and it took no time at all for the adults, I have a Std Poodle and 4 maltese, to pick it up. I use Beggin’ strips as reward and of course they have to have thier "fair" share and are training right along with Tank. Lorrie thank you for suggesting I talk to him before I pick him up it didn’t even cross my mind I was scaring him. I hope this group remembers all of us luckers who would lose so much if we didn’t have the helpful, experienced, kind people who give such needed and appreciated advice. Please don’t desert the NG those of us who care will learn to watch, and know a pile of sh*t when we see it. Anne
I echo Anne. I appreciate RPDB and I don’t intend to desert it, and hope the ‘experienced hands’ will hang in there with us newbies!!!! ****** KimBoo "After ecstacy, the laundry." – Zen proverb
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To the many people here who are sincere in your efforts to help thank you. For those just interested in judging I’m sorry you have such a sad life with no room for compassion and understanding for others.
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I have no compassion for people who try to unload a very ill dog onto someone else because they can’t or WON’T handle it, INSTEAD of having said animal put down, as it should be. A dog who has 7-8 seizures in a 24 hour period WHILE it’s taking medication AND attacks people because of said disease can not and will not have a normal or happy life no matter what situation you put it in. In fact a change in its everyday routine or situation (ie; "rehoming") can potentially make the problem worse and unfortunately, probably will. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To the many people here who are sincere in your efforts to help thank you. For those just interested in judging I’m sorry you have such a sad life with no room for compassion and understanding for others.
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
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Hello everybody! I am just back from my trip to Australia. Thanks to everybody who gave me useful hints, I received many of them! To all Australians: you are living in a really wonderful country! Corina
Where did you go and what did you do ? Only 5 weeks to go until we set off. Via Aukland (4 days) into Cairns (5 or so days) down to the Whitsundays (live aboard cruise ?) into Brisbane (3 days) then down to Sydney (4/5 days) and back via Fiji (3 days). Anything you can recommend doing ? I’d appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Dave
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Great! Gail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to thank everyone who gave me advice on how to make Shadow company in our new house. He was scared for the first two days then he finally left the bathroom and has gone back to his normal routines, and loves the screen porch. In case anyone else going to move their indoor cat what I did was. 1) on moving day I brought him over to the bathroom and put his favorite blanket, food dish, water dish, and litter box so he had something familiar and he was out of the way. 2) I put all the furnature in the living room in the exact position we had it in the apartment. He would not come out of the bathroom for day one. Day two h tired expolring but would only go in the living room on the couch then back in the bathroom. Day 3 he greated me when my alarm went off upstarirs:). He has been in everyroom and on every window sill and even wanted to play fetch. H’s completly back to normal and didn’t seem to mind when I moved the living room furnatto where I wanted it and then put his things where they belong. -Margaret — \ o o |/ o o |/ / Let it snow!! http://www.oswego.edu/~es_ind04 /// "There is such a thing as a stupid question. Its the one that is never asked." – MMS
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I want to thank everyone who gave me advice on how to make Shadow company in our new house. He was scared for the first two days then he finally left the bathroom and has gone back to his normal routines, and loves the screen porch. In case anyone else going to move their indoor cat what I did was. 1) on moving day I brought him over to the bathroom and put his favorite blanket, food dish, water dish, and litter box so he had something familiar and he was out of the way. 2) I put all the furnature in the living room in the exact position we had it in the apartment. He would not come out of the bathroom for day one. Day two h tired expolring but would only go in the living room on the couch then back in the bathroom. Day 3 he greated me when my alarm went off upstarirs:). He has been in everyroom and on every window sill and even wanted to play fetch. H’s completly back to normal and didn’t seem to mind when I moved the living room furnatto where I wanted it and then put his things where they belong. -Margaret — \ o o |/ o o
|/ / Let it snow!! http://www.oswego.edu/~es_ind04 /// "There is such a thing as a stupid question. Its the one that is never asked." – MMS
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Hi all, Thank you for all your great ideas to keep my cat out of the plants. Hope something will work. She is also eating the plant and putting her kittylitter out of her box. She has all the toys a cat can get(scratching post, boxes, toys…) and we play with her all day long to get her tired but she is still acting like this. She would never let me get any sleep at night. I love my cat but just dont know how to deal with her anymore. She is destroying everything she can and she is only 5 months old. Sometimes I try to convince myself that she will grow out of it but some other times I am really wondering if it will happen. That cat mean a lot to me but I also need to sleep and try to keep our apt in shape. Thanks for everything to you all… JB
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I love my cat but just dont know how to deal with her anymore. She is destroying everything she can and she is only 5 months old. Sometimes I try to convince myself that she will grow out of it but some other times I am really wondering if it will happen.
At 5 months, my younger cat did an incredible (expensive) amount of damage. She did grow out of it. Good luck! Alice
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To those who responded with caring and concern to my last post, I want to say a heartfelt thank-you. As it turned out, my cat was all right, and almost immediately stopped coughing blood after I posted. I did take her to the vet the day after, and she was given a clean bill of health. Her activity and appitite have been fine since, and I can honestly say I am clueless as to why an otherwise healthy animal was coughing blood to begin with. To those who felt the need to berate me, and my honest request in a time of great stress and anxiety, I can only say I hope you are never put in the same situation. It certainly did not help make a bad situation any better.
I’m glad your cat is alright, Jamie, but quite honestly, if I ever found myself in the same situation, I would be getting my cat to the vet, not wasting time posting to the newsgoup. I feel quite strongly that you were dead wrong and have no remorse about berating you.
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To those who responded with caring and concern to my last post, I want to say a heartfelt thank-you. As it turned out, my cat was all right, and almost immediately stopped coughing blood after I posted. I did take her to the vet the day after, and she was given a clean bill of health. Her activity and appitite have been fine since, and I can honestly say I am clueless as to why an otherwise healthy animal was coughing blood to begin with. To those who felt the need to berate me, and my honest request in a time of great stress and anxiety, I can only say I hope you are never put in the same situation. It certainly did not help make a bad situation any better. Yours sincerely, Jamie Riemersma
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Melanie……. Your search will complete itself when you least expect it. They have a way of finding us at the weirdest times. If you wish to ask any advice about Sibes, please feel free to contact us at your convenience. We have four of the little beauties and there are things you should know about them. They are the most wonderous dogs you could imagine….smart, loving, energetic (!)…but…they aren’t for everyone. But on them cold nights…….can’t be beat! LOL Rich and Karen Mahn Quinn, ‘Kasha, Cyrrah and Junior Just remove the spamout I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here.
I am contacting rescues for Shibas, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone — human, male, female, canine, whatever — like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually — I don’t know why — I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty.
Melanie – Your tribute to Harley was so beautiful and touching – the special bond you shared is something that you will always treasure. They are never here long enough, but the happiness they bring and their unquestioning devotion are so enriching that we are always ready to open our hearts to another. You will know when you meet the right girl. I’ll keep my eyes open – State College isn’t too far away. Take care. Carla H. State College, PA Centre County PAWS http://epimedia.com/PAWS
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(Harley, forgive me.)
You’ll find there’s nothing that needs forgiving. Getting your next dog is a celebration of the good times you had with the last one. You never forget the first dog, because she’s the one who taught you about loving and caring for dogs. Getting your next dog is just the natural process of applying what your first dog has taught you. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare.
Don’t worry about comparisons – the new dog is an addition to your life full of dogs, not a replacement. – ANDREA — Get paid to surf the Web! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BFN610 ANDROMEDA – Internet Goddess Bloodaxe’s History Links: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5055/ The Loony Bin Archive: http://loonies.net800.co.uk/
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-She said that maybe Harley was a person in her -last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, -but as a dog with a nice cushy life. I love this idea. Now I have to figure out what I can do to *mess up* just enough so that I have a life like Harley’s next time ’round. I’d take it over being a people any day! Good luck in your search for a new furbaby. I would suggest not ruling out males, though. My family has always had female dogs, but now that I have boys I doubt I will ever go back. I know the right dog is out there for you, and there’s always the chance it might be a boy. You wouldn’t want to overlook him if it is!
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Melaine, don’t ever feel like you’re betraying Harley by wanting another beastie, she’d want you to share the love. There are no replacements, only additions. I’m with you on meeting them again one day, am unable to believe that such pure and unconditional love is given to us and then taken away forever. Good luck on your search! Trish
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I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel.
Oh Melanie, you and Harley fought so bravely. I’m so sorry for you, but happy that you and little Harley found each other and that you have such good memories. The bad will fade but the good will be with you always. Take care of yourself now, and know that we have no control over the creator, but that you did the very best you could for her. Lois E. Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Still Only $9.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com With Servers In California, Texas And Virginia – The Worlds Uncensored News Source
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: I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn’t : the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. It really does happen. You can love another dog. They are all so special and unique. A little over 5 years ago I had to put down my English Springer Spaniel of 13 years. Even though I’ve loved all of my dogs, he was the one that was extra special. I couldn’t believe that horrible day had finally come. I was just standing there in the vet’s office with an empty collar and leash in my hand and I couldn’t hold back the tears. A woman who was waiting to see the vet came up to me and put her arms around me and gave me a hug. After she expressed her condolences, she whispered in my ear, "There are so many more out there that need your love." I have no idea who that woman was. I never will. But I will never forget her or her kindness or her words that ultimately rang so true. I really didn’t believe her at the time. I thought my world was over. But she was right, and I’m sure you’ll find that out too, if you haven’t already.
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Melanie, I know I have responded to another message, but this message really has me so torn up. I hope you find your little furface soon. I can certainly feel and relate to your pain. There is little I can say or do to really comfort you, but I wish I could. I can only pray that Harley sends you another friend soon. Gwen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone.
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Melanie – Any dog who finds you to be the owner will be very lucky. And tell your mom from me I think people who are lucky in this life get to come back as dogs belonging to good people instead of being stuck as striving humans
This is what I’m thinking. Maybe in my next life I’ll catch a break and come back as a well loved Basenji. ‘Til then I gotta keep racking up that good karma. — Andrea Stone Saorsa Basenjis "The average dog is a nicer person than the average person." — Andrew A. Rooney
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I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open.
Refer them to old Sigmund ( a chow-person, I believe). Freud said our dog is "the one being we never, for a moment, wished dead." Melanie, please try to avoid the trap, when you think about Harley, of seeking out little lapses you can blame yourself for. I still do that about my OES who died years ago: "If only I had found the _perfect diet, if only I had, if only….."
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Melanie – Any dog who finds you to be the owner will be very lucky. And tell your mom from me I think people who are lucky in this life get to come back as dogs belonging to good people instead of being stuck as striving humans Remember the new companion to be should be carefully chosen with lots of logic and realistic consideration of circumstances and then a goodly sized addition of instinct and heart. None will be like Harley but a new friend can help you change from sorrowful thoughts only to fond and happy memories. Nancy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone — human, male, female, canine, whatever — like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. Harley was my first dog. I guess I just got real lucky that I started out with such a special one. For those of you who haven’t known us or heard the story, I actually found Harley on rec.pets.dogs (back when it was all one newsgroup). So, this little corner of Usenet is pretty special to me for a number of reasons. When I started looking for a dog in late 1993, I was thinking 80-pound malamute. Back then, I thought if it didn’t weigh over 50 pounds, it wasn’t a dog. (Isn’t that funny?) I posted something to the effect of "I’m starting graduate school in the fall and want to adopt a puppy. I like [every huge spitz breed] and Border Collies. I am going to take the puppy to school with me and have it sleep under the desk while I am in class." After being roundly lambasted for my stupidity and naivete, I realized that my plan was a little bit unrealistic. What puppy was going to sleep through class? I also realized that with apartment living a smaller dog was going to be a better idea (mostly due to landlord restrictions — heh). Still committed to the spitz concept, I started looking at smaller ones. Pomeranians were a bit smaller than I had bargained for, but I liked that they were all spitz, just scaled down. And, I had to admit, they were pretty damn cute. Then, one day, I saw a post on the newsgroup: "Pomeranian needs home." "A friend of mine is caring for a one-year-old spayed Pom dog, she is a doll. She loves to cuddle, and go for rides." And it was true. And everyone thought I would never be able to train a dog to go to class with me. Well, actually, I guess I can’t really take the credit for that. I just got lucky, again. Harley came that way. (She also came with the name "Muffie," but we did something about that right away.) Harley was carrying a special soul and even my mother, a card-carrying Buddhist, agrees. (And Mom doesn’t even really like dogs. She loved Harley though. She used to say that Harley was "yangban," or high class, because everything she did was so tidy and perfect and she carried herself like a lady. It was true.) She said that maybe Harley was a person in her last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, but as a dog with a nice cushy life. And the reason she had to go so soon is that she had more than made up for whatever she did before. Even though I have never subscribed to any religion, of any flavor, I think that I will meet Harley again. My mother said Harley might even come back as my daughter. It might almost be worth having a kid for that. Right? Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare. While I was in Virginia during the weekend, I went to the animal shelter to see if I could love another dog. I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn’t the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. (Actually I am pretty certain she was a collie/BC mix. This shelter is notorious for horrifying breed misidentifications: the tag on the kennel said "German Shepherd/Cocker Spaniel mix." !!! Anyone looking for a nice BC cross in Northern Virginia? Call Fairfax County Animal Control and ask them about Emma.) What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually — I don’t know why — I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone. * By the way, if anyone wants an honest-to-God lurcher in the Philly area, they have a nice one at the Morris Animal Refuge. Her name is Nadia and she is listed as a "terrier X" which I am sure she is, but I am certain the other half is whippet or greyhound. She’s like a little golden wire-haired gazelle. I can’t adopt from this shelter because they actually do call your landlord to see if you can have a dog. But I figured someone who can might like Nadia. — Melanie Lee Chang | Repetition is the death Departments of Anthropology and Biology | of art. University of Pennsylvania |
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Oh Gary and Melanie, Both of your messages have me in tears. I know so well the pain. I am so sorry to hear about both of your dogs. You are right about never being able to replace the one and yet you have opened your heart up and your home to another who needs your love and devotion in exchange for the same. I had a terrible experience that occured in late August the pain is still very much there and will be for a lifetime. I have gone to the pet grieving group for kind support and it has helped, but it will never get me over what I did. Take care both of you and open your hearts up to another furface soon. Gwen
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Melanie, I wish I could be lucky enough to return to this earth as your dog. ) Carol – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone — human, male, female, canine, whatever — like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. Harley was my first dog. I guess I just got real lucky that I started out with such a special one. For those of you who haven’t known us or heard the story, I actually found Harley on rec.pets.dogs (back when it was all one newsgroup). So, this little corner of Usenet is pretty special to me for a number of reasons. When I started looking for a dog in late 1993, I was thinking 80-pound malamute. Back then, I thought if it didn’t weigh over 50 pounds, it wasn’t a dog. (Isn’t that funny?) I posted something to the effect of "I’m starting graduate school in the fall and want to adopt a puppy. I like [every huge spitz breed] and Border Collies. I am going to take the puppy to school with me and have it sleep under the desk while I am in class." After being roundly lambasted for my stupidity and naivete, I realized that my plan was a little bit unrealistic. What puppy was going to sleep through class? I also realized that with apartment living a smaller dog was going to be a better idea (mostly due to landlord restrictions — heh). Still committed to the spitz concept, I started looking at smaller ones. Pomeranians were a bit smaller than I had bargained for, but I liked that they were all spitz, just scaled down. And, I had to admit, they were pretty damn cute. Then, one day, I saw a post on the newsgroup: "Pomeranian needs home." "A friend of mine is caring for a one-year-old spayed Pom dog, she is a doll. She loves to cuddle, and go for rides." And it was true. And everyone thought I would never be able to train a dog to go to class with me. Well, actually, I guess I can’t really take the credit for that. I just got lucky, again. Harley came that way. (She also came with the name "Muffie," but we did something about that right away.) Harley was carrying a special soul and even my mother, a card-carrying Buddhist, agrees. (And Mom doesn’t even really like dogs. She loved Harley though. She used to say that Harley was "yangban," or high class, because everything she did was so tidy and perfect and she carried herself like a lady. It was true.) She said that maybe Harley was a person in her last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, but as a dog with a nice cushy life. And the reason she had to go so soon is that she had more than made up for whatever she did before. Even though I have never subscribed to any religion, of any flavor, I think that I will meet Harley again. My mother said Harley might even come back as my daughter. It might almost be worth having a kid for that. Right? Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare. While I was in Virginia during the weekend, I went to the animal shelter to see if I could love another dog. I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn’t the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. (Actually I am pretty certain she was a collie/BC mix. This shelter is notorious for horrifying breed misidentifications: the tag on the kennel said "German Shepherd/Cocker Spaniel mix." !!! Anyone looking for a nice BC cross in Northern Virginia? Call Fairfax County Animal Control and ask them about Emma.) What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually — I don’t know why — I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone. * By the way, if anyone wants an honest-to-God lurcher in the Philly area, they have a nice one at the Morris Animal Refuge. Her name is Nadia and she is listed as a "terrier X" which I am sure she is, but I am certain the other half is whippet or greyhound. She’s like a little golden wire-haired gazelle. I can’t adopt from this shelter because they actually do call your landlord to see if you can have a dog. But I figured someone who can might like Nadia. — Melanie Lee Chang | Repetition is the death Departments of Anthropology and Biology | of art. University of Pennsylvania |
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Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare.
Both statements are true and separate. We had to put our Schautzie to sleep eleven days ago. There are two separate components that occur, the grieving over the unique life that has been lost, and the loss of the companionship and all the common physical things that go with having a good dog, the companionship, the areas of the house that just don’t look right without a dog lieing there, and millions of others. In getting a new dog, those are the things we replace, not the unique life we were privleged to share. I went to the shelter a couple of days ago to pick up some German Shepherd Dog mugs that they had that no place else did. In spite of the pain, I had to look at the available dogs that were there, dog after dog wagging and kissing and wanting what we had available, a home that could give them love and people to be with. So we will bring another into our house who will fill the common physical things that the loss of Schautzie has created, but they will never fill any of the loss that is there from not having our unique loving girl here with us any longer. What they will do however is start to create another space in our lives which doesn’t exist right now that only they can fill. Gary
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I am completely overwhelmed by the kindness of everyone here. It has meant so much to me to be surrounded (even virtually) by people who know how I feel. Because, you see, I am a neophyte at losing a dog. And I had never in my life known a relationship with anyone — human, male, female, canine, whatever — like I had with Harley. Most of my memories are happy ones. I am just having a hard time dealing with other people right now because the next person who tells me she was "just a dog" is going to get her throat ripped open. Yeah, just a dog I would rescue from a burning building one million times over before I would risk singing a hair of my head over you. Harley was my first dog. I guess I just got real lucky that I started out with such a special one. For those of you who haven’t known us or heard the story, I actually found Harley on rec.pets.dogs (back when it was all one newsgroup). So, this little corner of Usenet is pretty special to me for a number of reasons. When I started looking for a dog in late 1993, I was thinking 80-pound malamute. Back then, I thought if it didn’t weigh over 50 pounds, it wasn’t a dog. (Isn’t that funny?) I posted something to the effect of "I’m starting graduate school in the fall and want to adopt a puppy. I like [every huge spitz breed] and Border Collies. I am going to take the puppy to school with me and have it sleep under the desk while I am in class." After being roundly lambasted for my stupidity and naivete, I realized that my plan was a little bit unrealistic. What puppy was going to sleep through class? I also realized that with apartment living a smaller dog was going to be a better idea (mostly due to landlord restrictions — heh). Still committed to the spitz concept, I started looking at smaller ones. Pomeranians were a bit smaller than I had bargained for, but I liked that they were all spitz, just scaled down. And, I had to admit, they were pretty damn cute. Then, one day, I saw a post on the newsgroup: "Pomeranian needs home." "A friend of mine is caring for a one-year-old spayed Pom dog, she is a doll. She loves to cuddle, and go for rides." And it was true. And everyone thought I would never be able to train a dog to go to class with me. Well, actually, I guess I can’t really take the credit for that. I just got lucky, again. Harley came that way. (She also came with the name "Muffie," but we did something about that right away.) Harley was carrying a special soul and even my mother, a card-carrying Buddhist, agrees. (And Mom doesn’t even really like dogs. She loved Harley though. She used to say that Harley was "yangban," or high class, because everything she did was so tidy and perfect and she carried herself like a lady. It was true.) She said that maybe Harley was a person in her last life, who just messed up a little bit and had to come back as a dog, but as a dog with a nice cushy life. And the reason she had to go so soon is that she had more than made up for whatever she did before. Even though I have never subscribed to any religion, of any flavor, I think that I will meet Harley again. My mother said Harley might even come back as my daughter. It might almost be worth having a kid for that. Right? Now I am starting the lonely process of finding another dog. (Harley, forgive me.) So far I have a couple of leads. It isn’t easy because half of me just wants to find any dog to fill the ache, and the other half is sure that no dog could ever compare. While I was in Virginia during the weekend, I went to the animal shelter to see if I could love another dog. I played with a border collie cross they had there and while she wasn’t the dog for me, I think that I can love another dog. (Actually I am pretty certain she was a collie/BC mix. This shelter is notorious for horrifying breed misidentifications: the tag on the kennel said "German Shepherd/Cocker Spaniel mix." !!! Anyone looking for a nice BC cross in Northern Virginia? Call Fairfax County Animal Control and ask them about Emma.) What I need to do is to find a dog (bitch, actually — I don’t know why — I like girl dogs) who has some of the qualities I loved in Harley without being anything like her. I know I could not have another Pom. After all, I already had the best one ever made. I am contacting rescues for Shibas, Basenjis, and Sibes right now and haunting the local animal shelters.* Whether it takes two weeks or two months (or longer, if I can survive that long), I am looking for the RIGHT dog, so I guess I will have to be patient. But I hope it doesn’t take too long. My leash hand is empty. Thanks, everyone. * By the way, if anyone wants an honest-to-God lurcher in the Philly area, they have a nice one at the Morris Animal Refuge. Her name is Nadia and she is listed as a "terrier X" which I am sure she is, but I am certain the other half is whippet or greyhound. She’s like a little golden wire-haired gazelle. I can’t adopt from this shelter because they actually do call your landlord to see if you can have a dog. But I figured someone who can might like Nadia. — Melanie Lee Chang | Repetition is the death Departments of Anthropology and Biology | of art. University of Pennsylvania |
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I want to thank everyone for the postings and info. It has been helpful. I see my doctor tues. and go from there. I am having to switch doctors due to new insurance and don’t know if everything will be covered. I will have to somehow open up to him and tell him all that has been going on. I don’t know if I can, but I am going to have to try. It is very hard for me to really open up to people. I have been having panic/anxiety attacks, but they have worsened the last couple of days and can’t hardly sleep due to the fact that my grandmother just passed away Friday and the funeral is Monday. I was the last person she responded to before she went into a coma. I have been taking it pretty hard. I
I am so sorry about the loss of your grandmother. I remember that pain well. regards, julie
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Hi Tammy, I am sorry for the loss of your grandmother. I grieved many years for mine as she was the one who actually raised me. I hope your appt. with your new pdoc goes well. It is hard to be trusting with another but IMO, it is essentail if you are to receive the best treatment possible. Peace, Lynda
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I would fight the whole insurance thing. Sometimes they will over right it because of special conditions. I’m having to fight my insurance company for the same thing and basically told them that I would rather jump off a tall building than change doctors. They don’t understand my illness and what it takes to keep me stable. If they keep giving me shit I will go to the news and see that it is printed and aired. Then lets see if they don’t let me switch doctors. sincerely lisa ann
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to thank everyone for the postings and info. It has been helpful. I see my doctor tues. and go from there. I am having to switch doctors due to new insurance and don’t know if everything will be covered. I will have to somehow open up to him and tell him all that has been going on. I don’t know if I can, but I am going to have to try. It is very hard for me to really open up to people. I have been having panic/anxiety attacks, but they have worsened the last couple of days and can’t hardly sleep due to the fact that my grandmother just passed away Friday and the funeral is Monday. I was the last person she responded to before she went into a coma. I have been taking it pretty hard. I am scared to sleep, so when I do, it’s not very well. The last several months I have been moody, but now it is worse. I don’t want to talk to people in person that much, but that is hard because of the job I have.
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I want to thank everyone for the postings and info. It has been helpful. I see my doctor tues. and go from there. I am having to switch doctors due to new insurance and don’t know if everything will be covered. I will have to somehow open up to him and tell him all that has been going on. I don’t know if I can, but I am going to have to try. It is very hard for me to really open up to people. I have been having panic/anxiety attacks, but they have worsened the last couple of days and can’t hardly sleep due to the fact that my grandmother just passed away Friday and the funeral is Monday. I was the last person she responded to before she went into a coma. I have been taking it pretty hard. I am scared to sleep, so when I do, it’s not very well. The last several months I have been moody, but now it is worse. I don’t want to talk to people in person that much, but that is hard because of the job I have.
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I am 48. I’ve been DXed and treated since I was 21. Been Bi-Polar since I was 8, I think, looking back at my life. On March 26, 1996 I had a manic incident followed by a long period of depression. August 6, 1996 my Ex Wife threw me out with the trash. On Dec. 23, 1998 my Divorce was final. But I digress from my point. I managed to cope with this damned illness from 1972 until March 26, 1966. But on that date, a chain reaction started that knocked over my house of cards. I have been a mess ever since. No rest for the wicked I guess. There is however, some hope, on June 17, 1999; I found a Kitty on the Beach. Ralph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes Hi all, I am Jeri and a manic depressive. Being over 40 years old now, and in treatment the last ummmmm about 24 years I hope somehow I am able to reach out to others that understand, my cycling is getting more and mroeo rapid. My fiance came home three weeks ago to discover I had take "one too many things to help me sleep…….I slept for a week LOL He is feeling guilty, and confused now. Tonight I went for an assessment (yeah right) at the local "hotel" They said I should wait till I am in true crisis before coming in. Any of you been there? Like I said, I have over and over…hope to meet friends here, and to share med advise (although each is different for the individual), and hopefull pull us one by one up…or start to notice when we forget to sleep for a few days LOL Now, yes I am being long winded, that will stop soon I promise. But first, I printed out that beautiful piece of poetry, as well as sent it to my family. I hope there is not objections to my doing so. But I know I can go to the basement and smile, I can go the (being discrete here) restroom and it is on the mirror for me to start each day with. Thank you so much for sharring it!!!! AKA uniqflwr It isn’t unusual for Bipolar Disorder to worsen when one is around 40, give or take a few years. I’m 47 and my illness has become much worse in the past several years. Fortunately, there are currently more treatment options than ever before. Struck-in-the-head
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Love it with all your heart, Ralph. :) Linda Brite – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am 48. I’ve been DXed and treated since I was 21. Been Bi-Polar since I was 8, I think, looking back at my life. On March 26, 1996 I had a manic incident followed by a long period of depression. August 6, 1996 my Ex Wife threw me out with the trash. On Dec. 23, 1998 my Divorce was final. But I digress from my point. I managed to cope with this damned illness from 1972 until March 26, 1966. But on that date, a chain reaction started that knocked over my house of cards. I have been a mess ever since. No rest for the wicked I guess. There is however, some hope, on June 17, 1999; I found a Kitty on the Beach. Ralph x-no-archive: yes Hi all, I am Jeri and a manic depressive. Being over 40 years old now, and in treatment the last ummmmm about 24 years I hope somehow I am able to reach out to others that understand, my cycling is getting more and mroeo rapid. My fiance came home three weeks ago to discover I had take "one too many things to help me sleep…….I slept for a week LOL He is feeling guilty, and confused now. Tonight I went for an assessment (yeah right) at the local "hotel" They said I should wait till I am in true crisis before coming in. Any of you been there? Like I said, I have over and over…hope to meet friends here, and to share med advise (although each is different for the individual), and hopefull pull us one by one up…or start to notice when we forget to sleep for a few days LOL Now, yes I am being long winded, that will stop soon I promise. But first, I printed out that beautiful piece of poetry, as well as sent it to my family. I hope there is not objections to my doing so. But I know I can go to the basement and smile, I can go the (being discrete here) restroom and it is on the mirror for me to start each day with. Thank you so much for sharring it!!!! AKA uniqflwr It isn’t unusual for Bipolar Disorder to worsen when one is around 40, give or take a few years. I’m 47 and my illness has become much worse in the past several years. Fortunately, there are currently more treatment options than ever before. Struck-in-the-head
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Welcome Jeri. :) We are happy to have you here. Another shoulder for you… and us. People to share your good times and your bad times. People who understand… REALLY understand. I’m glad you found us. Please feel free to be long winded. If that’s what you need to share, that’s fine. Can’t say as I ever went in for the "assessment" and was told to come back. I was invited for an extended stay. Life’s a bitch. I think its wonderful you found a poem that does that for you… which one were you referring to? We have many poets here. And they are all good. Stick around… it gets better. Hugs, Linda Briteyes
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I’ll add my welcome to those you’ve already received. I too am in my forties, and my disease has grown markedly worse in the last two years or so. You’ve found a good group here, for moral support, for information on this disease and medication. Please feel free to write whatever you need to write. You may not always get the same people to respond, but you will get someone’s response. People tend to come and go here, some lurk and some participate. We also have a Bipolar Cafe chatroom you might wish to get involved with. If so, send me an email and I will send you a link to a website which explains how to access the Cafe. You will meet alot of newsgroup regulars there. Once again, welcome aboard! LilySue
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Which piece of poetry did you print out? — *moto* – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I am Jeri and a manic depressive. Being over 40 years old now, and in treatment the last ummmmm about 24 years I hope somehow I am able to reach out to others that understand, my cycling is getting more and mroeo rapid. My fiance came home three weeks ago to discover I had take "one too many things to help me sleep…….I slept for a week LOL He is feeling guilty, and confused now. Tonight I went for an assessment (yeah right) at the local "hotel" They said I should wait till I am in true crisis before coming in. Any of you been there? Like I said, I have over and over…hope to meet friends here, and to share med advise (although each is different for the individual), and hopefull pull us one by one up…or start to notice when we forget to sleep for a few days LOL Now, yes I am being long winded, that will stop soon I promise. But first, I printed out that beautiful piece of poetry, as well as sent it to my family. I hope there is not objections to my doing so. But I know I can go to the basement and smile, I can go the (being discrete here) restroom and it is on the mirror for me to start each day with. Thank you so much for sharring it!!!! AKA uniqflwr
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Hello passionflower. Welcome. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I am Jeri and a manic depressive. Being over 40 years old now, and in treatment the last ummmmm about 24 years I hope somehow I am able to reach out to others that understand, my cycling is getting more and mroeo rapid. My fiance came home three weeks ago to discover I had take "one too many things to help me sleep…….I slept for a week LOL He is feeling guilty, and confused now. Tonight I went for an assessment (yeah right) at the local "hotel" They said I should wait till I am in true crisis before coming in. Any of you been there? Like I said, I have over and over…hope to meet friends here, and to share med advise (although each is different for the individual), and hopefull pull us one by one up…or start to notice when we forget to sleep for a few days LOL Now, yes I am being long winded, that will stop soon I promise. But first, I printed out that beautiful piece of poetry, as well as sent it to my family. I hope there is not objections to my doing so. But I know I can go to the basement and smile, I can go the (being discrete here) restroom and it is on the mirror for me to start each day with. Thank you so much for sharring it!!!! AKA uniqflwr
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Hi all, I am Jeri and a manic depressive. Being over 40 years old now, and in treatment the last ummmmm about 24 years I hope somehow I am able to reach out to others that understand, my cycling is getting more and mroeo rapid. My fiance came home three weeks ago to discover I had take "one too many things to help me sleep…….I slept for a week LOL He is feeling guilty, and confused now. Tonight I went for an assessment (yeah right) at the local "hotel" They said I should wait till I am in true crisis before coming in. Any of you been there? Like I said, I have over and over…hope to meet friends here, and to share med advise (although each is different for the individual), and hopefull pull us one by one up…or start to notice when we forget to sleep for a few days LOL Now, yes I am being long winded, that will stop soon I promise. But first, I printed out that beautiful piece of poetry, as well as sent it to my family. I hope there is not objections to my doing so. But I know I can go to the basement and smile, I can go the (being discrete here) restroom and it is on the mirror for me to start each day with. Thank you so much for sharring it!!!! AKA uniqflwr
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Hi Peter, I just wante to say thank you, to everyone who responded. Lynda, thank you for the links. It helped, when I really needed it, it helped.
I am glad that they were helpful to you. I just wish prayer and love was enough, always used to think that it
was in this world. Never give up Peter…but please take care of yourself. Peace, Lynda
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I just wante to say thank you, to everyone who responded. Lynda, thank you for the links. It helped, when I really needed it, it helped. I just wish prayer and love was enough, always used to think that it was in this world. -Peter
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Last night I was feeling really bad, ready to end it all. I want to thank everyone who responded to my post. I am feeling a little better today. My daughter and I are getting along…sort of. She is mad about some bangs that she got several months ago…blaming me for liking them, etc. I think that she looks cute, but she gets mad if I tell her that. I think that I may get her into counseling for her anger. I’m not sure yet. I’ll talk to my husband about that. Talked to my pdoc last night, and saw my therapist today. She reminded me that suicide would be the ultimate abandonment of my children…I know this, but at times like these, I just need to be reminded. I will continue to fight against this depression, and hopefully set a good example for my children. I love them very much and don’t want to hurt them. They are very supportive of me when I am feeling down, even at their young ages. I just hope that they are learning to fight against all odds, the way I feel I have to fight now. Again, thanks for the warm wishes, suggestions, and prayers. They are much needed. Marette
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I want to thank Kimberly, Daric, Roy, Morgan, Jenny and everyone else that offered their support and advice when I needed it the most. I’m sorry that it took me so long to thank you, but I went into hospital…manic, yet suicidal. I guess that’s a mixed state. For now, the cycling has stopped, my Zyprexa and Klonopin have kicked in, and I’m off to bed for (hopefully) a good night’s sleep. Again, thank you very much!!!! {{{{{{ASDM}}}}}} Marette
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I will start therapy tomorrow and then return to the doc on Dec. 2nd to see about the drugs. Last night was a very bad night…..all those nice little pills in my desk looked good. It doesn’t take mush sometimes to trigger the thoughts…..but it takes lots to make them go away. I ask myself may a time if I could really do it and I can never answer….I would never admit this to anyone outside of one of these boards because I don’t want to be thought of as crazy. I am afraid to tell the doc that the meds aren’t working. I feel guilt in doing it…..like he will think I am crazy that they should work or maybe I am just letting him down. I just want to sleep so much it is driving me crazy…..when will sleep come? Thank you Robert and Linda it is so nice to not feel alone for once in my life.
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I was afraid to tell my doctors that my meds weren’t working. Three reasons… 1) I wanted to feel better 2) I knew the drugs were supposed to work 3) I didn’t want to make the doctors feel bad about not helping me I realize that last one sounds stupid but hey it’s the truth. I’ve evolved (somewhat) and even told my (former) psychiatrist that I didn’t feel any better at each appointment, and he kept saying "effexor is a very good drug, so is lithium so we’ll just keep you on it a little while longer." Unfortunately he said the same thing at each visit and by the time had come for me to write my spring finals, I was screwed. I hadn’t been able to study all term because, well, I don’t have to explain it to you guys. I got a good psychiatrist in my home town over the summer, she immediately discontinued those drugs and switched me over to some other drugs. Acknowledging that there is a pathway of figuring out which drugs and dosages work for each person and telling me not to give up hope because we would stumble across the right combination for ME. And now I take 2000mg of Epival (sodium valproate) per day along with lamictal 100 mg per day and I’m doing much better. I still missed my midterms this year but wrote them right after that when I started feeling better (Lamictal kicked in just in the nick of time.) All that aside, just remember to put yourself first, and others be damned! At least when it comes to your health. The doctors are there to help and serve you , not the other way around. And they can’t do that if they don’t know that you’re not progressing. So do what you deserve and tell your doctor how you feel. Peace Roz
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— -judy ***To the world you might be one person, but to one person you might be the world.*** – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s gotten nice in here, /me yawns and stretches and says I’m bored. Dare I wish for it, lol j/k people. I know it’s still a shock to your system Robert. Now, you know I think you are a real good guy, and everything, so in an attempt to make you feel better, here’s a little something to make the troll withdrawal less drastic… What a Dreg you are. I am the foremost authority on bipolar disorder, and my doctor’s are world renowned specialists. They get all their information from me. When I’m not teaching at the university, I am fighting in the streets, still undefeated. My mob connections are ready to do my bidding. My 14" **** is being drained to begin a super race. My test scores are in the upper 99.99999999999999th percentile. Women cannot resist me. The FBI has tried to stop me, but have given up due to my genius ability to fool them. Blah, blah, blah, Tracy, blah, blah, Linda, blah blah, Judy, blah blah, La la, blah blah Hopper. There. I hope this makes you feel better. But one thing we will never know…."did Billy ever get his green socks back?"
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(Actually I will not have to. MOTF will run to look it up so that he can look cool for the chicks)
Could you blame me? I’m single, tall, healthy, of means, and doggone it, it gets lonely in the forest. Anyway, coolness is an art form.
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Me too!!! And I really needed it too. Looking forward to more as I wade my way through over 500 posts. Geez, go away for a few days… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You guys are cracking me up!!! Thanks…I really need a good hearty laugh! Love, Lynda ROFLO Good post Mark I feel so much better! Next time I’ll tell you how I accidentally invented Lamictal while making a new fat-free banana bread mixture. It would never have happened, had the Pope not called me for spiritual advice right as I was mixing the batter too close to my hardware shelf of miscellaneous chemicals. Mark "The new leader of ASDM, for the next 5 minutes" AMEN!!! You are so kewl Mark!!! Actually I think all our ASDM ans SSDM BP brothers are pretty special guys… (trolls excluded). You all have a great sense of humor and are able to laugh with us and you really do care…see, it shows :)
– Peace, Gina "Feats don’t fail me now" -Barrere, George, Martin
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<The story I heard second hand was that there was a infantry division <in the civil war that had stripes that looked like the indentations on <a bastard file, the division was made up from bastards hence the name. <Could be urban legend though so your mileage may vary. It is. I learned the origin of the name some time ago and can’t remember exactly what that was. I’ll see if I can find it again. (Actually I will not have to. MOTF will run to look it up so that he can look cool for the chicks). It has to do with the type of teeth the file has.
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Ever think of that one? I mean, why else would a hardware item be given a profanity title? Someday you should stop by Ace hardware and ask them if they carry bastard files? They will say yes. Then, ask them where they keep the motherfucking hammers and the goddamn screwdrivers. LOLOL!
The story I heard second hand was that there was a infantry division in the civil war that had stripes that looked like the indentations on a bastard file, the division was made up from bastards hence the name. Could be urban legend though so your mileage may vary. For email replies remove the **** from my email address.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mark "The new leader of ASDM, for the next 5 minutes" I accidentally invented Lamictal while making a new fat-free banana bread mixture. Oranjkaat BOWS I am not worthy!!! LOL but only bows for five minutes. You know that would be really good if we could invent a milkshake drink like a health food shake or bar with our meds we could take on the run with us. The ingredients would list all our daily nutrients, vitamin A, B, C, D, E, Iron Protein etc., and depakote(fill-in-med-of choice)—fat free of course. Okaat
(In my best John Wayne voice) Weeell little missy, all ya need to do is get yourself a blender and a couple-uh eggs. Then just toss all that stuff in with some of old bessies 2% milk, and let er rip. After that, you’re ready to saddle up and hit the trail. ;^) El Marko
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Warning! This post contains obscene language and is not suitable for children or sensitive adults. In response: Hmm, as far as the m-w link, I have it right here available with one click already. I set it up cause i’m a dictionary junkie. And, I have to first, think how it must be spelled, and that really sharpens my spelling abilliatty.<g And speaking of bastards, the dictionary says: Main Entry: 2bastard Function: adjective 1 : ILLEGITIMATE 2 : of mixed or ill-conceived origin <known for coining bastard words 3 : of abnormal shape or irregular size 4 : of a kind similar to but inferior to or less typical than some standard <bastard measles 5 : lacking genuineness or authority : FALSE But to me, I was thinking in the hardware store the other day while looking at a bastard file. It is flat on one side, and rough on the other. So I thought, hmm, the reason it is called a bastard file is because it is lacking definition on one side, same as the offspring of an unwed couple. Ever think of that one? I mean, why else would a hardware item be given a profanity title? Someday you should stop by Ace hardware and ask them if they carry bastard files? They will say yes. Then, ask them where they keep the motherfucking hammers and the goddamn screwdrivers. LOLOL!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (special credit to Webster’s dictionary) ‘Tis a wonderful reference.. It’s fun to bastardize the definitions, isn’t it? BTW – Have you used QuickClick (http://www.nbci.com/quickclick). With it installed, if you hold the alt key, then click with both mouse buttons at the same time on any word, you can bring up a quick link to the dictionary definition of any word on your screen (links to m-w.com site). It’s a nifty little tool. -Rob
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To be honest, I used my intellect, charm, wit, and most importantly – my good looks. -Rob
I have just read your response. I hope this anti-nausea med will be compatible with my neurontin, and these rubber hip waders won’t cause chafing. Main Entry: 1chafe Pronunciation: ‘chAf Function: verb Inflected Form(s): chafed; chaf
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