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admin — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Hello Felix, I read all of your rather dark autobiography, and it was no trouble at all. Your prose is eloquent, in spite of its discouraged and bitter tone, and I was further impressed when you said that English is your second language. You and I share a love of solitary pursuits, appreciation of the same music, interests in nature’s smaller species, and we share a history of hepatitis C and liver damage. Here our similarity ends: I have had success with treatment; you have not. I believe that I contracted hepatitis c in 1982 (maybe before you were even conceived!), at 28, and spent most of the next 20+ years being told that my debilitating symptoms were "all in my head," because no doctor thought to test for hep c. So, I well know the depression, anger, frustration and despair that the illness causes. I understand that, in Oriental medicine, the liver is considered to be the source of emotion, rather than the western world’s saying that it is the heart, and this makes far more sense to me. It seems that your disease progressed unusually rapidly, if you are in end-stage after only ten years, but then HCV is unpredictible. What are your options for treatment at this point, or are you looking at transplant? Has you discussed interferon maintenance therapy? At this point I would like to point out that everyone here on alt.support.hepatitis-c has or has had hepatitis c. Some of us have had success, others have not. Some are in a far worse situation that yours. This place is a good resource for medical information, for emotional support and for friendship based on the interest in hep c that we all share. You’ll see. I really liked the way you ended your post, with the advice to others about cherishing the simple pleasures in life. I hope that you can make more of an effort to do the same. Life is short and you’re a long time dead. Too long not to look, right now, and discover a wonderful insect to admire in some corner of your world. I wish you the best, and sincerely hope that we will hear more from you. Waterspider "felixxx" wrote in message

news:1b06b1233daa9b3bd5032d1a50098ce4@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am a cirrhosis of liver (caused by HCV, ended stage) sufferer, Chinese, > at the age of 24, this is a brief autobiography of me. > When I was young, I resided in countryside, and my best friend is the > nature. Maybe merely due to my suffering from bronchial asthma which made > me weak and susceptible, or maybe truly like what Nietzsche said, "This > world-is a portal to numerous deserts of dreariness and desolation." I > spent most of my time isolated from other children, drawing pictures, > folding paper, collecting insects, which is my favorite. I love the vivid, > spectacular, and mysterious nature. At that time, nature hadn’t been > overly > exploited and seriously destructed. In the woods, at the fields, by the > rivers’ banks, thousands species of insects and other creatures formed a > wondrous realm that engrossed me enormously. And, the tropic rain-forests > of Amazon drainage area which I acquainted with from TV programs had > always been a magnet to my young heart. The determination of being an > entomologist in the future had firmly rooted in my young heart. Even > underwent the rigescent and insipid school education which resembled > nothing but a task that meant to mould individuals into machines of trite > discipline, I steered towards my dream. > When I was nine-year-old once in hospital inasmuch suffered pneumonia, a > disaster almost perish my life. A medical blunder made by an inexperienced > intern caused severe allergic-reaction to me. Heart-failure struck me into > stupor, in a state of which I fought against Dead for 6 days. Though I > escaped the narrow squeak, from that time on, an inexpressible trepidation > of sudden death had been gleamingly lingering in the depth of my soul. > One year later, another calamity befell on me. My mother deceased of > intracerebral hemorrhage. Once again, the urgent treatment had been > delayed by an inexperienced physician whose diagnosis was another minor > ailment. I was mercilessly thrown into an abyss of despair and anguish, > which tremendously strengthened the terror that had always been haunting > me. Death, the impalpable and unpredictable death! Some people’s lives are > no more than wither leaves in a wintry tree at the mercy of a raging wind. > It was just the same time I began to remodel my long-formed views and > attitudes towards doctors. > My father had to work two jobs to afford the whole family. For me, Most of > my leisure time had to be taken up by cooking, washing clothes, > cleaning..But I never abandoned my dream even though I often did felt > helpless and precarious. > I loathed school life: tedious, weariful atmosphere of classes; > endlessly tiresome , compulsive homework; barbaric punishments from some > teachers; mockery and bullying from some ill-natured classmates. > Especially after my only pal’s death of Hodgkin disease, I found it almost > meaningless intolerable. But there was no option, no escape. Silently, I > bore this destiny, as sung by Tracy Chapman in one of her songs "I sit and > rot behind these padded-walls, hoping one day they would fall, and set me > free." However, it wasn’t until years later did I fully comprehend the > meaning of the "fall" here for me. > At the second semester of 11 Grade when I was 17, my father, who had been > working exceedingly toilsome, finally knocked down by heart disease. I was > awaken by cold, cruel reality-unfathomed fate, durative penury, a family > full of tribulations, a victim of traditional education-mode .I had to > plan myself a future career which would be more practical and > bread-and-butter. My mother’s and friend’s tragical death, my father’s > suffering, the disbelief in doctors and the insecurity and dread I’d > desperately tried to vanquish, at length rendered me to make up my mind to > be a doctor. The sweet dreams, the almost unshakable ambition, which had > accompanied me for so many springs and falls, finally shattered into > nothingness. I felt the exact sorrow tinted by self-derision in Allen > Poe’s Dreams".I have been happy, though in a dream/ I have been happy, and > I love the theme/ ..which brings/ to a delirious eye more lovely > things/.than young Hope in his sunniest hour has known." > At the same period, the lethal disease, the fiendish, had begun to display > his domineer. I suffered indigestion, frequent insomnia, fatigue, > dizziness, etc. But because assumedly attributing those malaises to the > heavy load of study, endless examinations and dreary daily trifles and > sundries, I didn’t give it too much thought. Once or two when it got > serious, I had to go to see the doctors. Without suggesting any farther > examinations, they concluded the diagnoses which varied from GERD to > colitis, and prescribed me various expensive medicines. (These "panaceas", > which are only of allopathy and had nothing to with treating hepatitis C, > are no more than means for many doctors to squeeze banknotes. I gradually > saw through all of this afterward.) Being unable to afford the expenses, I > just took some cheap types when urgent and kept on undergoing it with the > random and naive idea that the condition wouldn’t get worse for I was > young. > Most of my relaxation and recreations had been devoted to the painstaking > study. I must succeed if I was desirous to completely transform the > situation of my life. Putting all my eggs in one basket, I was prepared to > lay myself out in order to done well in the last > National-College-Entrance-Exam. (In China, there’s only one opportunity > per year. And the failed ones who resume Grade 12 will encounter certain > disadvantages. ) Finally, I got a relatively high mark, and was > matriculated by a medical college. > My father’s illness didn’t deteriorate at that time, and I had achieved my > short-term goal. Life seemed to appear looking up. In the campus, I kept > on > my industrious study. Having been resolved, I endeavored to actualize a > brilliant future, to fulfill self-value, which would be the compensation > for my perished dreams. My efforts were soon paid-I won a first-class > scholarship, and with the pay of my part-time jobs, I could manage to > continue my clinic-medicine studies. However, I was then too blindfoldly > optimistic to apperceive T. Hardy’s apothegms in his Mayor of Casterbidge > and Jude obscure. > Most of the time, I was alone. It’s by no means that I was excessively > arrogant, or favored solitude particularly. Deep down this lonely soul of > mine, an inaudible voice buried with emptiness and distress had never > ceased its helpless cry for an intimate company. However, the circumstance > I was in made it almost impossible to find true friendship. Bronchial > asthma and arthritis had always kept me from sports; I enriched my life, > gained my jocundities from reading novels and short stories, enjoying > music of L. McKennitt, J. Mitchell, P. Simon, B. Joel, etc, while others > were fond of soccer, surfing the Net, listening to pop, chatting > monotonously. It’s an unalterable law that people loathe "Different > Persons". Indeed I Wasn’t granted the prerogative to make critiques and > judgment, but it is violently against my nature to compel myself to suit > favor what are so-called "popular". I had no least intention of joining > their chatting about network games which are time-squandering and > addiction-inducing; it was rather immature-minded for majority of them to > tirelessly admire certain superficial movie-stars; I detested to cheat in > exams, but it had been accepted by most undergraduates as a reproachless > mean of passing exams or getting high marks.. All of which rendered me > unsocial, odd, and even annoying in other’s eyes. It’s a fact that on most > occasions in such a complicated, inexplicable and absurd

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I am a cirrhosis of liver (caused by HCV, ended stage) sufferer, Chinese, at the age of 24, this is a brief autobiography of me. When I was young, I resided in countryside, and my best friend is the nature. Maybe merely due to my suffering from bronchial asthma which made me weak and susceptible, or maybe truly like what Nietzsche said,

A genuine fear

admin — Thu, 06 Oct 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet

Andre’s fear of water is rather un-amusing. Ken Wilson "Goodnight Andre Jute, wherever you are. Jesus loves you."

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The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world’s largest manufacturer of ethical EEG feedback equipment. We’d have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead on an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their progress. "Well, what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there was some garlic in my salad dressing!" So we had them sign things that they wouldn’t touch garlic before classes or we were wasting their time, their money and my time. I guess some of you who are pilots or have been in flight tests…I was in flight test engineering in Doc Hallan’s group in the 1950’s. The flight surgeon would come around every month and remind all of us: "Don’t you dare touch any garlic 72 hours before you fly one of our airplanes, because it’ll double or triple your reaction time. You’re three times slower than you would be if you’d not had a few drops of garlic." Well, we didn’t know why for 20 years later, until I owned the Alpha-Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves. So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that it’s a poison. You can rub a clove of garlic on your foot – a you can smell it shortly later on your wrists. So it penetrates the body. This is why DMSO smells a lot like garlic: that sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates all the barriers including the corpus callosum in the brain. Any of you who are organic gardeners know that if you don’t want to use DDT, garlic will kill anything in the way of insects. Now, most people have heard most of their lives garlic is good for you, and we put those people in the same class of ignorance as the mothers who at the turn of the century would buy morphine sulphate in the drugstore and give it to their babies to put’em to sleep. If you have any patients who have low-grade headaches or attention deficit disorder, they can’t quite focus on the computer in the after-noon, just do an experiment – you owe it to yourselves. Take these people off garlic and see how much better they get, very very shortly. And then let them eat a little garlic after about three weeks. They’ll say "My God, I had no idea that this was the cause of our problems." And this includes the de-skunked garlic’s, Kyolic, some of the other products. Very unpopular, but I’ve got to tell you the truth. http://www.relfe.com/health_benefits_of_garlic.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet

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Away to cook with garlic immediately. Halloween is coming. –AJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world’s largest manufacturer of ethical EEG feedback equipment. We’d have people come back from lunch that looked clinically dead on an encephalograph, which we used to calibrate their progress. "Well, what happened?" "Well, I went to an Italian restaurant and there was some garlic in my salad dressing!" So we had them sign things that they wouldn’t touch garlic before classes or we were wasting their time, their money and my time. I guess some of you who are pilots or have been in flight tests…I was in flight test engineering in Doc Hallan’s group in the 1950’s. The flight surgeon would come around every month and remind all of us: "Don’t you dare touch any garlic 72 hours before you fly one of our airplanes, because it’ll double or triple your reaction time. You’re three times slower than you would be if you’d not had a few drops of garlic." Well, we didn’t know why for 20 years later, until I owned the Alpha-Metrics Corporation. We were building biofeed-back equipment and found out that garlic usually desynchronises your brain waves. So I funded a study at Stanford and, sure enough, they found that it’s a poison. You can rub a clove of garlic on your foot – a you can smell it shortly later on your wrists. So it penetrates the body. This is why DMSO smells a lot like garlic: that sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates all the barriers including the corpus callosum in the brain. Any of you who are organic gardeners know that if you don’t want to use DDT, garlic will kill anything in the way of insects. Now, most people have heard most of their lives garlic is good for you, and we put those people in the same class of ignorance as the mothers who at the turn of the century would buy morphine sulphate in the drugstore and give it to their babies to put’em to sleep. If you have any patients who have low-grade headaches or attention deficit disorder, they can’t quite focus on the computer in the after-noon, just do an experiment – you owe it to yourselves. Take these people off garlic and see how much better they get, very very shortly. And then let them eat a little garlic after about three weeks. They’ll say "My God, I had no idea that this was the cause of our problems." And this includes the de-skunked garlic’s, Kyolic, some of the other products. Very unpopular, but I’ve got to tell you the truth. http://www.relfe.com/health_benefits_of_garlic.html I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet

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The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells I’m interested – I’ve been eating a lot of garlic recently and find slight memory glitches I didn’t expect (may be growing old – at 58) . I can cut out garlic quite easily if it’s useful. My question is what about related stuff like onions and leeks?

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Enough is enough. I’ve already given up superglue, acapulco red, amphiinks, ddt, amino whatsismacallit what I call paracetamol, nicotine, tannin, caffein and sanguinary products. I’m not giving up garlic, onion and leek as well just because some Green moonbat wants it. I’ll give up moonbats instead. — Andre Jute – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells I’m interested – I’ve been eating a lot of garlic recently and find slight memory glitches I didn’t expect (may be growing old – at 58) . I can cut out garlic quite easily if it’s useful. My question is what about related stuff like onions and leeks?

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water – high school.

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ROFLMBFAO! ;-) LV – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet

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Thank God for Coca Cola company which had found a way to distribute DHMO in safe and biodegradable formats. I used to take mine right out of the tap, but now Coca Cola puts it is a can for me–scientifically proven to remove all harmful side effects of DHMO for the next 12 hours.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet

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It’s simple, Andre. Dubya hasn’t outlawed DHMO because he figures Halliburton can corner the market on the stuff, thereby making a mint for G. Dipshit Bush and his cronies. He’s probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani sales. Of course, that may fall through if W decides to blame the stuff for global warming. –E

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Global warming has been the primary cause of the increase in atmospheric DMHO emissions, not to say the additional quantities which are now found to be lingering on the surface and not being reabsorbed by the atmosphere or surrounding surface materials. Ken Wilson "Goodnight Andre Jute, wherever you are. Jesus loves you."

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Thank God for Coca Cola company which had found a way to distribute DHMO in safe and biodegradable formats.

Dubya [is] probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani

Gee, Ether, after Vinyl *gave* you the joke, you still took another 4 hours 41 minutes to come up with your own dud copy. Shit man, haven’t you heard of the cheap imagination transplants you can now get in Mexico? I guess some people are born with brains and others are me-tutus. Andre Jute Ban DHMO *before* it Drowns Mankind and Rusts the Planet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet It’s simple, Andre. Dubya hasn’t outlawed DHMO because he figures Halliburton can corner the market on the stuff, thereby making a mint for G. Dipshit Bush and his cronies. He’s probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani sales. Of course, that may fall through if W decides to blame the stuff for global warming. –E

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One particularly dangerous aspect of DHMO is that it is hydrophilic. In ecosystems where it is known to have been introduced, it can be found in every plant and animal. That’s scary. And, it promotes food spoilage…in fact, even the ancients knew of this, and they recognized that if they rid certain crops of DHMO they would not spoil. How did they do this? With RADIATION. That’s right, RADIATION. Even they knew the danger of DHMO, and would rather take their chances with RADIATION than DHMO.

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank God for Coca Cola company which had found a way to distribute DHMO in safe and biodegradable formats. Dubya [is] probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani Gee, Ether, after Vinyl *gave* you the joke, you still took another 4 hours 41 minutes to come up with your own dud copy. Shit man, haven’t you heard of the cheap imagination transplants you can now get in Mexico? I guess some people are born with brains and others are me-tutus. Andre Jute Ban DHMO *before* it Drowns Mankind and Rusts the Planet I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet It’s simple, Andre. Dubya hasn’t outlawed DHMO because he figures Halliburton can corner the market on the stuff, thereby making a mint for G. Dipshit Bush and his cronies. He’s probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani sales. Of course, that may fall through if W decides to blame the stuff for global warming. –E

It took LV 12 hours. Ken Wilson "Goodnight Andre Jute, wherever you are. Jesus loves you."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet It’s simple, Andre. Dubya hasn’t outlawed DHMO because he figures Halliburton can corner the market on the stuff, thereby making a mint for G. Dipshit Bush and his cronies. He’s probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani sales. Of course, that may fall through if W decides to blame the stuff for global warming. –E Thank God for Coca Cola company which had found a way to distribute DHMO in safe and biodegradable formats. Dubya [is] probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani Gee, Ether, after Vinyl *gave* you the joke, you still took another 4 hours 41 minutes to come up with your own dud copy. Shit man, haven’t you heard of the cheap imagination transplants you can now get in Mexico?

Poor Andre. Unlike you, I don’t spend every waking hour poring over every crappy little post (like yours) as it comes down the pike. And just to spell it out for your wee little brain: my post both played off of and was an extension of vinyl’s. I wouldn’t expect you to get it. Too subtle for your crude sensibilities. (Not that any four-year-old wouldn’t have picked it up right away.) Or maybe your worship of G. Dipshit just clouded your vision. I guess some people are born with brains and others are me-tutus.

You should know. As Zoot said, this is the oldest schoolboy joke in the book. I believe I first heard it in about the sixth grade. Very mature of you. How funny, too. Really. Soooo funny! Clever boy! For your next act, are you going to call us up and ask if our refrigerators are running? And learn how not to top-post, asswipe. –E

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet One particularly dangerous aspect of DHMO is that it is hydrophilic. In ecosystems where it is known to have been introduced, it can be found in every plant and animal. That’s scary. And, it promotes food spoilage…in fact, even the ancients knew of this, and they recognized that if they rid certain crops of DHMO they would not spoil. How did they do this? With RADIATION. That’s right, RADIATION. Even they knew the danger of DHMO, and would rather take their chances with RADIATION than DHMO.

WTF?

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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet It’s simple, Andre. Dubya hasn’t outlawed DHMO because he figures Halliburton can corner the market on the stuff, thereby making a mint for G. Dipshit Bush and his cronies. He’s probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani sales. Of course, that may fall through if W decides to blame the stuff for global warming. –E Thank God for Coca Cola company which had found a way to distribute DHMO in safe and biodegradable formats. Dubya [is] probably making a deal with Coca Cola to get a cut of Dasani Gee, Ether, after Vinyl *gave* you the joke, you still took another 4 hours 41 minutes to come up with your own dud copy. Shit man, haven’t you heard of the cheap imagination transplants you can now get in Mexico? Poor Andre. Unlike you, I don’t spend every waking hour poring over every crappy little post (like yours) as it comes down the pike. And just to spell it out for your wee little brain: my post both played off of and was an extension of vinyl’s. I wouldn’t expect you to get it. Too subtle for your crude sensibilities. (Not that any four-year-old wouldn’t have picked it up right away.) Or maybe your worship of G. Dipshit just clouded your vision. I guess some people are born with brains and others are me-tutus. You should know. As Zoot said, this is the oldest schoolboy joke in the book. I believe I first heard it in about the sixth grade. Very mature of you. How funny, too. Really. Soooo funny! Clever boy! For your next act, are you going to call us up and ask if our refrigerators are running? And learn how not to top-post, asswipe. –E

His next joke will probably be more subtle, something like "Have you got Prince Albert in a can?" Maybe he needs a can of that turd polish in case he missed the purchasing opportunity you provided someone else earlier. http://www.squeem.com/Pics/turd-polish2.gif Ken Wilson "Goodnight Andre Jute, wherever you are. Jesus loves you."

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet One particularly dangerous aspect of DHMO is that it is hydrophilic. In ecosystems where it is known to have been introduced, it can be found in every plant and animal. That’s scary. And, it promotes food spoilage…in fact, even the ancients knew of this, and they recognized that if they rid certain crops of DHMO they would not spoil. How did they do this? With RADIATION. That’s right, RADIATION. Even they knew the danger of DHMO, and would rather take their chances with RADIATION than DHMO. WTF?

It was just ‘floater speak’. What fishhead was trying to say was that he didn’t have a clue. Your ‘WTF’ probably sums up what he was thinking at the time quite nicely. Ken Wilson "Goodnight Andre Jute, wherever you are. Jesus loves you."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet One particularly dangerous aspect of DHMO is that it is hydrophilic. In ecosystems where it is known to have been introduced, it can be found in every plant and animal. That’s scary. And, it promotes food spoilage…in fact, even the ancients knew of this, and they recognized that if they rid certain crops of DHMO they would not spoil. How did they do this? With RADIATION. That’s right, RADIATION. Even they knew the danger of DHMO, and would rather take their chances with RADIATION than DHMO. WTF?

The kind of radiation they used originated in a nuclear process so dangerous, you’d have to be 90 million miles away to be relatively safe, but even if you were, you’d be wise to wear protective clothing, and not look directly at the nuclear process.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t understand, especially after the example of Katrina, why the leader of the free world, George Bush, isn’t doing something about dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), a threat that could drown us all, especially given that DHMO is more pervasive than DDT and that we have always known about it: http://www.dhmo.org/ Check out especially the wriggling of the EPA, who knows all about DHMO, on the conspiracy page, and what FEMA admits it didn’t know about DHMO on another page. If you’re fed up with environmental threats and just want a quick glance, a quick look at the pic near the top of this page will horrify you: http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html: Thanks for the reminder, Flipper. Andre Jute Chemists will be discreet One particularly dangerous aspect of DHMO is that it is hydrophilic. In ecosystems where it is known to have been introduced, it can be found in every plant and animal. That’s scary. And, it promotes food spoilage…in fact, even the ancients knew of this, and they recognized that if they rid certain crops of DHMO they would not spoil. How did they do this? With RADIATION. That’s right, RADIATION. Even they knew the danger of DHMO, and would rather take their chances with RADIATION than DHMO. WTF? The kind of radiation they used originated in a nuclear process so dangerous, you’d have to be 90 million miles away to be relatively safe, but even if you were, you’d be wise to wear protective clothing, and not look directly at the nuclear process.

way out, brother.

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Ken doll model, Kitty-kook Kenny, Likes to lick balls, But he doesn’t have any. Get a clue, you stupid fuck.

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hmmm..

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Old joke, lame too.

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My grandfather used to eat onions like apples. He swore they along with a daily wal kept him alive for an additional 20 years after he was diagnosed with hear disease. Eating Garlic and onions probably help you heart but if your date isn’t eating them as well it may cause more heart damage than it’s worth. http://www.smheart.net/healthy.html http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4722 Flavonoids Flavonoids (FLAV’oh-noidz) are compounds with varied chemical structures present in fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. The major flavonoid categories are flavonols (FLAV’oh-nolz), flavones (FLAV’onz), catechins (KAT’eh-kinz), flavanones (FLAV’ah-nonz) and anthocyanins (an"tho-SI’ah-ninz). The main dietary sources of these compounds are tea, onions, soy and wine. The main flavonoid in onions is quercetin glucoside (KER’seh-tin GLU’ko-s?d) and the main flavonoid in tea is quercetin rutinoside (KER’seh-tin roo-TIN’o-syd). Flavonoid intake has been inversely linked with coronary heart disease in the Zutphen Elderly Study, the Seven Countries Study and a cohort study in Finland. That is, people with a low intake of flavonoid had a higher death rate from coronary heart disease than did those who consumed more flavonoid (about five to six cups of tea per day). It should be pointed out that some flavonoids have toxic effects (gastrointestinal or allergic), especially if taken in large amounts. Systematic work is needed on the major classes of flavonoids to study their structure, effectiveness and potential harmful effects. The link between flavonoids and atherosclerosis is based partly on the evidence that some flavonoids have antioxidant (an"tih-OK’sih-dant) properties. For example, the phenolic (fen-OL’ik) substances in red wine inhibit oxidation of human LDL. Flavonoids also have been shown to inhibit the aggregation and adhesion of platelets in blood, which may be another way they lower the risk of heart disease. Isoflavones (i"so-FLAV’-onz) in soy foods have been reported to lower plasma cholesterol and also to have effects similar to estrogen. Plant sulfur compounds Naturally occurring sulfur-containing compounds (the allium family) are found especially in garlic, onions and leeks, the most prominent of these being garlic. In 2000, the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) published an evidence-based "Report on Garlic: Effects on Cardiovascular Risks and Disease, Protective Effects Against Cancer, and Clinical Adverse Effects." Here are the main findings: * Thirty-six randomized trials, all but one in adults, consistently showed that, compared with placebo, various garlic preparations led to small, statistically significant reductions in total cholesterol at one month (range of average pooled reductions 1.1 to 15.8 milligrams per deciliter [mg/dL]) and three months (range of 11.6 to 24.3 mg/dL). Eight trials with outcomes at six months showed no significant reductions of garlic compared with placebo. Changes in low-density lipoprotein levels (LDL) and triglycerides mirrored total cholesterol results; no significant changes in high-density lipoprotein levels (HDL) were found. * Twenty-six small, randomized, placebo-controlled trials, all but one in adults, reported mixed, but never large, effects of various garlic preparations on blood pressure outcomes. * Twelve small, randomized trials suggested various garlic preparations had no clinically significant effects on glucose in persons with or without diabetes. Two small short trials reported no statistically significant effects of garlic compared with placebo on serum insulin or C peptide levels. * Ten small, short-duration trials, all but one in adults, showed effects of various garlic preparations on platelet aggregation and mixed effects on plasma viscosity (vis-KOS’ih-te) and fibrinolytic (fi-brin"o-LIT’ik) activity. * There were insufficient data to confirm or refute garlic’s effects on clinical outcomes such as myocardial infarction and claudication. * Scant data, primarily from case-control studies, suggest, but do not prove, that dietary garlic consumption is associated with decreased odds of laryngeal, gastric, colorectal, and endometrial cancer and adenomatous (ad-eh-NOM’ah-tus) colorectal polyps. * Adverse effects of oral ingestion of garlic are "smelly" breath and body odor. Other possible, but not proven, adverse effects include flatulence, esophageal and abdominal pain, small intestinal obstruction, dermatitis, rhinitis, asthma and bleeding. What are the conclusions? Trials show several promising, modest, short-term effects of garlic supplements on lipid and antithrombotic factors. Effects on clinical outcomes are not established, and effects on glucose and blood pressure are none to minimal. High dietary intake of garlic may be associated with decreased risks of multiple cancers. Our ability to interpret existing data is limited by marked variability in types of garlic preparations that have been studied and inadequate definition of active constituents in the various preparations.

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Ping Howard B.

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Got a question for you. Background: I’ve had asthma in the past, but haven’t needed an inhaler in about 5 – 6 years. Lately, since the weight loss, I’ve been in excellent health. Last Wednesday I had a check-up with the doctor and my BP was 110 over 70. Lungs and heart sounded great. I had more lab work which I haven’t got the results of yet, but just in April had lab work done and triglycerides were 103 (<150 is normal), total cholesterol was 136 (<200 is normal), HDL cholesterol was 40 ( or = 40 is normal), LDL cholesterol was 75 (< 130 is normal), and cholesterol/HDLC ratio was 3.4 (< 4.4 is normal). All this to say that, although I do have right branch bunch blockage, I think my heart is absolutely sound. I normally bicycle, very vigorously, for 2 hours every day! (The only thing that has changed lately is that I started taking Maxide, a diuretic, last Friday because I’ve had some swelling in my hands – but, because of below – haven’t taken one today.) But for the last three days I’ve been having trouble breathing, last night to the point that I had to cut my ride short after 15 minutes, and today to the point that I’m feeling weak and dizzy (and have some tingling in both arms) just sitting in my desk chair. I’ve made an appointment with my doctor, but couldn’t get in until tomorrow morning. I don’t feel any pain, so haven’t thought about going to the ER. My question is, even though I’m not wheezing, do you think this could be an asthma attack? Would swollen sinuses from allergies cause something similar? I know you can’t diagnose anything over the ‘net, but I just wanted to be reassured that not rushing to the ER and waiting to see the doctor tomorrow was OK – or whether this could be something that *should* be seen to immediately. Hugs, CatNipped

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Catnipped sorry to intrude on a Ping But yes it could be an asthma attack you should go and get checked out. My daughter has asthma and has had symptoms EXACTLEY like yours, it was an attack. Even the swelling could come from the attack. Please get it looked at. Skritches and purrs, KittyLady

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Thanks, that’s what I thought. I’m seeing the doctor tomorrow morning. Hugs, CatNipped

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got a question for you. Background: I’ve had asthma in the past, but haven’t needed an inhaler in about 5 – 6 years. Lately, since the weight loss, I’ve been in excellent health. Last Wednesday I had a check-up with the doctor and my BP was 110 over 70. Lungs and heart sounded great. I had more lab work which I haven’t got the results of yet, but just in April had lab work done and triglycerides were 103 (<150 is normal), total cholesterol was 136 (<200 is normal), HDL cholesterol was 40 ( or = 40 is normal), LDL cholesterol was 75 (< 130 is normal), and cholesterol/HDLC ratio was 3.4 (< 4.4 is normal).

Translation: you will die of something other than atherosclerotic heart disease! A 3.4 ratio is quite good; unless there’s been a recent change, I’d think a 5.0 was normal. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All this to say that, although I do have right branch bunch blockage, I think my heart is absolutely sound. I normally bicycle, very vigorously, for 2 hours every day! (The only thing that has changed lately is that I started taking Maxide, a diuretic, last Friday because I’ve had some swelling in my hands – but, because of below – haven’t taken one today.) But for the last three days I’ve been having trouble breathing, last night to the point that I had to cut my ride short after 15 minutes, and today to the point that I’m feeling weak and dizzy (and have some tingling in both arms) just sitting in my desk chair. I’ve made an appointment with my doctor, but couldn’t get in until tomorrow morning. I don’t feel any pain, so haven’t thought about going to the ER.

My first thought is that it’s metabolic — oxygen demand, or possibly electrolytes. Hyperventilation comes more to mind than a cardiac cause. Maxzide is a combination drug with one drug intended to limit potassium loss — otherwise I’d think more likely low potassium. My question is, even though I’m not wheezing, do you think this could be an asthma attack? Would swollen sinuses from allergies cause something similar?

Either your not getting enough air, or your hyperventilating to get air. Were you aware of breathing faster than usual? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know you can’t diagnose anything over the ‘net, but I just wanted to be reassured that not rushing to the ER and waiting to see the doctor tomorrow was OK – or whether this could be something that *should* be seen to immediately. Hugs, CatNipped

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Either your not getting enough air, or your hyperventilating to get air. Were you aware of breathing faster than usual?

What would hyperventilating to get air indicate? I just did a google search on that phrase and found references to asthma. And also a surprising one, gastro-intestinal problems? This particular term you’ve used interests me because I’ve seen my cat do this and since it isn’t coughing, and it almost seems like sneezing, but could now be considered "hyperventilating for air", I’m concerned. Based on my description to the vet, she didn’t find any indication of asthma or heart trouble, but said it could be early signs of asthma. Now that I have your term of "hyperventilating to get air" it might indicate to the vet something else?

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Either your not getting enough air, or your hyperventilating to get air. Were you aware of breathing faster than usual? What would hyperventilating to get air indicate?

In this context, "to get air" was added for some clarity, which I made more confusing. The correct term is just hyperventilation. In people, hyperventilation can be caused by physical or emotional reasons. A lack of oxygen doesn’t as much cause fast breathing but gasping. Excitement can lead to hyperventilation. I just did a google search on that phrase and found references to asthma. And also a surprising one, gastro-intestinal problems? This particular term you’ve used interests me because I’ve seen my cat do this and since it isn’t coughing, and it almost seems like sneezing, but could now be considered "hyperventilating for air", I’m concerned. Based on my description to the vet, she didn’t find any indication of asthma or heart trouble, but said it could be early signs of asthma. Now that I have your term of "hyperventilating to get air" it might indicate to the vet something else?

Hyperventilation can be due to a very wide range of causes. Paradoxically, a high carbon dioxide (technically, bicarbonate ion) in the blood will stimulate fast respiration, but fast enough respiration will wash out much of the bicarbonate. The resulting state can leave one dizzy, tingling, etc. At some point in explaining this, things get fairly complicated, in that you need to understand the acid-base balance of the body. Let me merely suggest that the stomach has a good deal of acid, but the acidity can change. Unfortunately, I can’t picture any way to give a cat some of the screening tests for asthma. Does anyone have an idea how to put a mask over a cat’s face and tell the cat to blow out as hard as possible? I think not!

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A note of practicality here: I’m not as learned as Howard but 30 years of seeing and hearing things in ER’s adds up to a few things sticking in your mind: hyperventilating can produce – yes – tingling in extremities, "gasping" rapid breathing and the next thing possible is dizziness and/or PASSING OUT! If I were ‘Nipped I’d stay the h*** off that bike till informed doc gives okay to ride it….or in spite of doing so good on a "health test" it may not matter a rat’s *** how you did or how "good" you feel, if your I don’t need to take tests to see how my health is: 2 cardiologists and 1 internal med doc tell me all I need to know. I live more than a mile above sea level, have mild COPD (smoked 21 years) and do not "hyperventilate"because of it. If the temps in Houston are anything like what’s been going on here, you couldn’t pay me to get on a bike in this heat. Duh. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Either your not getting enough air, or your hyperventilating to get air. Were you aware of breathing faster than usual? What would hyperventilating to get air indicate? In this context, "to get air" was added for some clarity, which I made more confusing. The correct term is just hyperventilation. In people, hyperventilation can be caused by physical or emotional reasons. A lack of oxygen doesn’t as much cause fast breathing but gasping. Excitement can lead to hyperventilation. I just did a google search on that phrase and found references to asthma. And also a surprising one, gastro-intestinal problems? This particular term you’ve used interests me because I’ve seen my cat do this and since it isn’t coughing, and it almost seems like sneezing, but could now be considered "hyperventilating for air", I’m concerned. Based on my description to the vet, she didn’t find any indication of asthma or heart trouble, but said it could be early signs of asthma. Now that I have your term of "hyperventilating to get air" it might indicate to the vet something else? Hyperventilation can be due to a very wide range of causes. Paradoxically, a high carbon dioxide (technically, bicarbonate ion) in the blood will stimulate fast respiration, but fast enough respiration will wash out much of the bicarbonate. The resulting state can leave one dizzy, tingling, etc. At some point in explaining this, things get fairly complicated, in that you need to understand the acid-base balance of the body. Let me merely suggest that the stomach has a good deal of acid, but the acidity can change. Unfortunately, I can’t picture any way to give a cat some of the screening tests for asthma. Does anyone have an idea how to put a mask over a cat’s face and tell the cat to blow out as hard as possible? I think not!

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Sorry, just now got back from a business dinner. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got a question for you. Background: I’ve had asthma in the past, but haven’t needed an inhaler in about 5 – 6 years. Lately, since the weight loss, I’ve been in excellent health. Last Wednesday I had a check-up with the doctor and my BP was 110 over 70. Lungs and heart sounded great. I had more lab work which I haven’t got the results of yet, but just in April had lab work done and triglycerides were 103 (<150 is normal), total cholesterol was 136 (<200 is normal), HDL cholesterol was 40 ( or = 40 is normal), LDL cholesterol was 75 (< 130 is normal), and cholesterol/HDLC ratio was 3.4 (< 4.4 is normal). Translation: you will die of something other than atherosclerotic heart disease! A 3.4 ratio is quite good; unless there’s been a recent change, I’d think a 5.0 was normal.

Yep, thank you mom for the good genes! ; – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All this to say that, although I do have right branch bunch blockage, I think my heart is absolutely sound. I normally bicycle, very vigorously, for 2 hours every day! (The only thing that has changed lately is that I started taking Maxide, a diuretic, last Friday because I’ve had some swelling in my hands – but, because of below – haven’t taken one today.) But for the last three days I’ve been having trouble breathing, last night to the point that I had to cut my ride short after 15 minutes, and today to the point that I’m feeling weak and dizzy (and have some tingling in both arms) just sitting in my desk chair. I’ve made an appointment with my doctor, but couldn’t get in until tomorrow morning. I don’t feel any pain, so haven’t thought about going to the ER. My first thought is that it’s metabolic — oxygen demand, or possibly electrolytes. Hyperventilation comes more to mind than a cardiac cause. Maxzide is a combination drug with one drug intended to limit potassium loss — otherwise I’d think more likely low potassium.

I thought hyperventilation also – since I feel like I’m not getting enough oxygen I keep breathing heavier and faster. I just don’t know why I feel like I can’t get enough oxygen. Could that be caused by the asthma? The only reason I didn’t think that is because I thought with asthma you really weren’t getting enough oxygen so breathing harder/faster would just make up for the oxygen you’re not getting. I’m also having a bad allergy attack, my sinuses are swollen, so that could contribute to me feeling like I can’t get enough air. Hugs, CatNipped – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My question is, even though I’m not wheezing, do you think this could be an asthma attack? Would swollen sinuses from allergies cause something similar? Either your not getting enough air, or your hyperventilating to get air. Were you aware of breathing faster than usual? I know you can’t diagnose anything over the ‘net, but I just wanted to be reassured that not rushing to the ER and waiting to see the doctor tomorrow was OK – or whether this could be something that *should* be seen to immediately. Hugs, CatNipped

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Well now I feel silly. Of course I was having trouble breathing – not only do a have a sever sinus infection, I have a touch of pneumonia! I spent the whole morning at the doctor’s office – they did a pulmonary test, got chest x-rays, gave me a respiratory treatment, and got sent home with Augmentin, Albuterol, a respiratory therapy thingy and a bunch of other meds. In my defense, however, I never run a fever no matter how sick I get (my "normal" temp is 96.8F – I joke that this is because I’m dyslexic) – and with the fibromyalgia, the aches and pains are SOP, so I didn’t realize I was this sick. I’m just bummed ’cause they told me I couldn’t ride my bike for a week!!!! Hugs, CatNipped

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On 2005-07-20, CatNipped penned: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well now I feel silly. Of course I was having trouble breathing – not only do a have a sever sinus infection, I have a touch of pneumonia! I spent the whole morning at the doctor’s office – they did a pulmonary test, got chest x-rays, gave me a respiratory treatment, and got sent home with Augmentin, Albuterol, a respiratory therapy thingy and a bunch of other meds. In my defense, however, I never run a fever no matter how sick I get (my "normal" temp is 96.8F – I joke that this is because I’m dyslexic) – and with the fibromyalgia, the aches and pains are SOP, so I didn’t realize I was this sick. I’m just bummed ’cause they told me I couldn’t ride my bike for a week!!!!

Doh! That sucks, but at least it’s not a long-term condition. Take care of yourself and don’t hop on that bike until your body is ready! — monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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On 2005-07-20, Hopitus penned: Please sneak up on Oscar w/socks in paws (don’t you have a camera phone?) I would like to see that!

I had to get going this morning and didn’t snap a picture of her … I’ll try to do better in the future. — monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On 2005-07-20, CatNipped penned: Well now I feel silly. Of course I was having trouble breathing – not only do a have a sever sinus infection, I have a touch of pneumonia! I spent the whole morning at the doctor’s office – they did a pulmonary test, got chest x-rays, gave me a respiratory treatment, and got sent home with Augmentin, Albuterol, a respiratory therapy thingy and a bunch of other meds. In my defense, however, I never run a fever no matter how sick I get (my "normal" temp is 96.8F – I joke that this is because I’m dyslexic) – and with the fibromyalgia, the aches and pains are SOP, so I didn’t realize I was this sick. I’m just bummed ’cause they told me I couldn’t ride my bike for a week!!!! Doh! That sucks, but at least it’s not a long-term condition. Take care of yourself and don’t hop on that bike until your body is ready!

Yeah, but it’s going to be hard – I have a serious endorphin addiction! Tell, me, why do they call it "walking pneumonia when they want you to stay in bed when you have it? ; Hugs, CatNipped – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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Please take care of yourself, CN, this is serious! Lots of purrs and best wishes, — Polonca & Soncek

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well now I feel silly. Of course I was having trouble breathing – not only do a have a sever sinus infection, I have a touch of pneumonia! I spent the whole morning at the doctor’s office – they did a pulmonary test, got chest x-rays, gave me a respiratory treatment, and got sent home with Augmentin, Albuterol, a respiratory therapy thingy and a bunch of other meds. In my defense, however, I never run a fever no matter how sick I get (my "normal" temp is 96.8F – I joke that this is because I’m dyslexic) – and with the fibromyalgia, the aches and pains are SOP, so I didn’t realize I was this sick. I’m just bummed ’cause they told me I couldn’t ride my bike for a week!!!! Hugs, CatNipped

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Ack! Now REST! Lesson – if you feel like you’re having trouble breathing, it’s because you ARE having trouble breathing! You’re not prone to panic attacks, so take those sort of symptoms seriously. — ~Karen aka Kajikit Crafts, cats, and chocolate – the three essentials of life http://www.kajikitscorner.com

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Please sneak up on Oscar w/socks in paws (don’t you have a camera phone?) I would like to see that! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On 2005-07-20, Hopitus penned: That explains a lot. Also, at work, my area hasn’t had proper A/C — the sun shines right on us and apparently, the A/C is only operating at 50%. They’re trying to get it fixed ASAP; in the meantime, it’s almost impossible to get any real work done in the afternoon. I guess I’m spoiled. We have A/C at home, but I keep asking DH when we can get a second A/C unit for the upstairs. On the plus side, if it ever gets truly awful, our basement is always cool. Not really suitable as a living area, though. OMG — Oscar the Sock Cat is double-fisting — she has two socks in her paws, not just one, and is taking turns licking both! If I get up to get a camera, she’ll freak out =/ — monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A note of practicality here: I’m not as learned as Howard but 30 years of seeing and hearing things in ER’s adds up to a few things sticking in your mind: hyperventilating can produce – yes – tingling in extremities, "gasping" rapid breathing and the next thing possible is dizziness and/or PASSING OUT! If I were ‘Nipped I’d stay the h*** off that bike till informed doc gives okay to ride it….or in spite of doing so good on a "health test" it may not matter a rat’s *** how you did or how "good" you feel, if your I don’t need to take tests to see how my health is: 2 cardiologists and 1 internal med doc tell me all I need to know. I live more than a mile above sea level, have mild COPD (smoked 21 years) and do not "hyperventilate"because of it. If the temps in Houston are anything like what’s been going on here, you couldn’t pay me to get on a bike in this heat. Duh.

Well, temps are over 100F and humidity is about 10000000%. But I only bike in the evenings after it has cooled off a bit, and this is also happening inside my air-conditioned house just sitting at my desk. I’m seeing the doctor tomorrow and won’t be riding my bike until after that. However, having lived on the gulf coast all of my life, I dont’ think the weather would suddenly cause something like this out of the blue. I’m thinking probably asthma since I’ve had that in the past and it feels the same (but strangely, I don’t have any "wheezing" that’s normally associated with asthma, just a feeling like I’m not getting enough oxygen). Hugs, CatNipped – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Either your not getting enough air, or your hyperventilating to get air. Were you aware of breathing faster than usual? What would hyperventilating to get air indicate? In this context, "to get air" was added for some clarity, which I made more confusing. The correct term is just hyperventilation. In people, hyperventilation can be caused by physical or emotional reasons. A lack of oxygen doesn’t as much cause fast breathing but gasping. Excitement can lead to hyperventilation. I just did a google search on that phrase and found references to asthma. And also a surprising one, gastro-intestinal problems? This particular term you’ve used interests me because I’ve seen my cat do this and since it isn’t coughing, and it almost seems like sneezing, but could now be considered "hyperventilating for air", I’m concerned. Based on my description to the vet, she didn’t find any indication of asthma or heart trouble, but said it could be early signs of asthma. Now that I have your term of "hyperventilating to get air" it might indicate to the vet something else? Hyperventilation can be due to a very wide range of causes. Paradoxically, a high carbon dioxide (technically, bicarbonate ion) in the blood will stimulate fast respiration, but fast enough respiration will wash out much of the bicarbonate. The resulting state can leave one dizzy, tingling, etc. At some point in explaining this, things get fairly complicated, in that you need to understand the acid-base balance of the body. Let me merely suggest that the stomach has a good deal of acid, but the acidity can change. Unfortunately, I can’t picture any way to give a cat some of the screening tests for asthma. Does anyone have an idea how to put a mask over a cat’s face and tell the cat to blow out as hard as possible? I think not!

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Any dietary changes? Coffee, tea, chocolate? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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On 2005-07-20, Hopitus penned:

That explains a lot. Also, at work, my area hasn’t had proper A/C — the sun shines right on us and apparently, the A/C is only operating at 50%. They’re trying to get it fixed ASAP; in the meantime, it’s almost impossible to get any real work done in the afternoon. I guess I’m spoiled. We have A/C at home, but I keep asking DH when we can get a second A/C unit for the upstairs. On the plus side, if it ever gets truly awful, our basement is always cool. Not really suitable as a living area, though. OMG — Oscar the Sock Cat is double-fisting — she has two socks in her paws, not just one, and is taking turns licking both! If I get up to get a camera, she’ll freak out =/ — monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On 2005-07-20, CatNipped penned: Well, temps are over 100F and humidity is about 10000000%. But I only bike in the evenings after it has cooled off a bit, and this is also happening inside my air-conditioned house just sitting at my desk. I’m seeing the doctor tomorrow and won’t be riding my bike until after that. However, having lived on the gulf coast all of my life, I dont’ think the weather would suddenly cause something like this out of the blue. I’m thinking probably asthma since I’ve had that in the past and it feels the same (but strangely, I don’t have any "wheezing" that’s normally associated with asthma, just a feeling like I’m not getting enough oxygen). It sure is ungodly hot here in Colorado, but that wouldn’t keep me from being active if my wrist weren’t sprained … Anyway, I had a thought, and the symptoms don’t really match up, but I’ll mention it anyway. There’s a condition called overtraining that can occur when you push your body too hard for an extended period of time. Didn’t you only recently (last few months) start biking regularly? I overtrained last year, riding my bike every day in addition to some other stuff, and got all the classic symptoms — poor sleep, weakness, increased chance of illness and injury. Again, it doesn’t sound like this is what you’re experiencing at all, but here’s a link anyway: http://www.exrx.net/ExInfo/Overtraining.html

Yeah, I just got my bike for Mother’s day this past May. And being the little obsessive/compulsive that I am I tend to push myself further and further (one day I’ll do 10 miles – then the next day I *have* to do at least ten miles and preferrably 15 miles, and so on and so on). So in just a few months I went from not biking at all to biking 2 hours a day. I’ll have a look at the link and I’ll be sure to mention this to my doctor tomorrow – thanks! Hugs, CatNipped – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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One….more…..time: *how* are you *getting* to your doc tomorrow?! Because of what is going on (*not* because of *why*!) I’m concerned that your problem *might* cause you to lose consciousness if you *drive* – especially *alone*. I used to xray these extremity "tingling" mimic those of an acute M.I. (heart attack). Heat here, unlike FL, where a/c is not a given, is making me very grouchy (cats are bellyup all day & night, once in awhile I poke one just to see if they’re ok! – in Please don’t drive alone tomorrow till you get checked out by doc!!!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Catnipped, I am not a doctor or medical professional, but I live with an asthmatic. We have an agreement, based on experience – any difficulty breathing means an immediate trip to the emergency room. We were told by nurses at the Urgent Care center (kind of a not-so-emergency room) to tell the triage nurse at the emergency room that Carol had difficulty breathing. That would get us in IMMEDIATELY. Difficulty breathing and chest pains are two of the conditions that are taken very seriously at emergency rooms. I don’t know you, or your situation. But please take a good look at what is happening to you, and decide if you are really OK to wait until tomorrow. If you have any doubt, please consider a trip to the emergency room. We really want to keep getting Sammy-the-huge-kittencat stories Kalynnda, who gets really nervous when someone is having trouble breathing. Thank you! I’m OK, and I really think it’s just that I’ve been hyperventilating – I just need to find out *why* I’m hyperventilating (I’m not under stress at *all* – in fact I’ve been really happy lately). If I hadn’t seen a doctor just last Wednesday I would have gone to the ER. But my heart and lungs were fine just 6 days ago, so I don’t think I need immediate treatment. BTW, I’ve written the first two paragraphs of "Working at Home With Mommy" but RL keeps getting in the way of me finishing it. ; Hugs, CatNipped I thought hyperventilation also – since I feel like I’m not getting enough oxygen I keep breathing heavier and faster. I just don’t know why I feel like I can’t get enough oxygen. Could that be caused by the asthma? The only reason I didn’t think that is because I thought with asthma you really weren’t getting enough oxygen so breathing harder/faster would just make up for the oxygen you’re not getting. I’m also having a bad allergy attack, my sinuses are swollen, so that could contribute to me feeling like I can’t get enough air. Hugs, CatNipped

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One….more…..time: *how* are you *getting* to your doc tomorrow?! Because of what is going on (*not* because of *why*!) I’m concerned that your problem *might* cause you to lose consciousness if you *drive* – especially *alone*. I used to xray these extremity "tingling" mimic those of an acute M.I. (heart attack). Heat here, unlike FL, where a/c is not a given, is making me very grouchy (cats are bellyup all day & night, once in awhile I poke one just to see if they’re ok! – in 101o Please don’t drive alone tomorrow till you get checked out by doc!!!!!

Oh, sorry, I didn’t get that, I thought you were just fussing at me about biking. ; I *am* going to drive – I don’t have any other way to get there – but I’m not dizzy to the point of passing out or losing control or anything that would affect my driving – just to to point that it’s bothering me and I feel like I can’t catch my breath and making me feel nauseous. Hugs, CatNipped – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Catnipped, I am not a doctor or medical professional, but I live with an asthmatic. We have an agreement, based on experience – any difficulty breathing means an immediate trip to the emergency room. We were told by nurses at the Urgent Care center (kind of a not-so-emergency room) to tell the triage nurse at the emergency room that Carol had difficulty breathing. That would get us in IMMEDIATELY. Difficulty breathing and chest pains are two of the conditions that are taken very seriously at emergency rooms. I don’t know you, or your situation. But please take a good look at what is happening to you, and decide if you are really OK to wait until tomorrow. If you have any doubt, please consider a trip to the emergency room. We really want to keep getting Sammy-the-huge-kittencat stories Kalynnda, who gets really nervous when someone is having trouble breathing. Thank you! I’m OK, and I really think it’s just that I’ve been hyperventilating – I just need to find out *why* I’m hyperventilating (I’m not under stress at *all* – in fact I’ve been really happy lately). If I hadn’t seen a doctor just last Wednesday I would have gone to the ER. But my heart and lungs were fine just 6 days ago, so I don’t think I need immediate treatment. BTW, I’ve written the first two paragraphs of "Working at Home With Mommy" but RL keeps getting in the way of me finishing it. ; Hugs, CatNipped I thought hyperventilation also – since I feel like I’m not getting enough oxygen I keep breathing heavier and faster. I just don’t know why I feel like I can’t get enough oxygen. Could that be caused by the asthma? The only reason I didn’t think that is because I thought with asthma you really weren’t getting enough oxygen so breathing harder/faster would just make up for the oxygen you’re not getting. I’m also having a bad allergy attack, my sinuses are swollen, so that could contribute to me feeling like I can’t get enough air. Hugs, CatNipped

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Catnipped, I am not a doctor or medical professional, but I live with an asthmatic. We have an agreement, based on experience – any difficulty breathing means an immediate trip to the emergency room. We were told by nurses at the Urgent Care center (kind of a not-so-emergency room) to tell the triage nurse at the emergency room that Carol had difficulty breathing. That would get us in IMMEDIATELY. Difficulty breathing and chest pains are two of the conditions that are taken very seriously at emergency rooms. I don’t know you, or your situation. But please take a good look at what is happening to you, and decide if you are really OK to wait until tomorrow. If you have any doubt, please consider a trip to the emergency room. We really want to keep getting Sammy-the-huge-kittencat stories Kalynnda, who gets really nervous when someone is having trouble breathing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I thought hyperventilation also – since I feel like I’m not getting enough oxygen I keep breathing heavier and faster. I just don’t know why I feel like I can’t get enough oxygen. Could that be caused by the asthma? The only reason I didn’t think that is because I thought with asthma you really weren’t getting enough oxygen so breathing harder/faster would just make up for the oxygen you’re not getting. I’m also having a bad allergy attack, my sinuses are swollen, so that could contribute to me feeling like I can’t get enough air. Hugs, CatNipped

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On 2005-07-20, CatNipped penned: Well, temps are over 100F and humidity is about 10000000%. But I only bike in the evenings after it has cooled off a bit, and this is also happening inside my air-conditioned house just sitting at my desk. I’m seeing the doctor tomorrow and won’t be riding my bike until after that. However, having lived on the gulf coast all of my life, I dont’ think the weather would suddenly cause something like this out of the blue. I’m thinking probably asthma since I’ve had that in the past and it feels the same (but strangely, I don’t have any "wheezing" that’s normally associated with asthma, just a feeling like I’m not getting enough oxygen).

It sure is ungodly hot here in Colorado, but that wouldn’t keep me from being active if my wrist weren’t sprained … Anyway, I had a thought, and the symptoms don’t really match up, but I’ll mention it anyway. There’s a condition called overtraining that can occur when you push your body too hard for an extended period of time. Didn’t you only recently (last few months) start biking regularly? I overtrained last year, riding my bike every day in addition to some other stuff, and got all the classic symptoms — poor sleep, weakness, increased chance of illness and injury. Again, it doesn’t sound like this is what you’re experiencing at all, but here’s a link anyway: http://www.exrx.net/ExInfo/Overtraining.html — monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

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breathing. Thank you! I’m OK, and I really think it’s just that I’ve been hyperventilating – I just need to find out *why* I’m hyperventilating (I’m not under stress at *all* – in fact I’ve been really happy lately). If I hadn’t seen a doctor just last Wednesday I would have gone to the ER. But my heart and lungs were fine just 6 days ago, so I don’t think I need immediate treatment. BTW, I’ve written the first two paragraphs of "Working at Home With Mommy" but RL keeps getting in the way of me finishing it. ; Hugs, CatNipped – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I thought hyperventilation also – since I feel like I’m not getting enough oxygen I keep breathing heavier and faster. I just don’t know why I feel like I can’t get enough oxygen. Could that be caused by the asthma? The only reason I didn’t think that is because I thought with asthma you really weren’t getting enough oxygen so breathing harder/faster would just make up for the oxygen you’re not getting. I’m also having a bad allergy attack, my sinuses are swollen, so that could contribute to me feeling like I can’t get enough air. Hugs, CatNipped

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My first thought is that it’s metabolic — oxygen demand, or possibly electrolytes. Hyperventilation comes more to mind than a cardiac cause. Maxzide is a combination drug with one drug intended to limit potassium loss — otherwise I’d think more likely low potassium. I thought hyperventilation also – since I feel like I’m not getting enough oxygen I keep breathing heavier and faster. I just don’t know why I feel like I can’t get enough oxygen. Could that be caused by the asthma?

Asthma certainly can cause lack of oxygen. I’ve never heard an asthmatic having an attack serious enough to reduce oxygen not say that they feel "tight" or can’t get enough air. To me, the clue is the tingling in both arms, following exercise. That sounds like hyperventilation. If it happens again, try rebreathing into a paper, not plastic bag, which will raise your carbon dioxide levels. If the tingling stops quickly, that’s the likely cause. It’s still an open issue why you are hyperventilating. The tingling, however, doesn’t go with asthma, because asthmatic breathing isn’t moving a lot of air and getting rid of CO2. The only reason I didn’t think that is because I thought with asthma you really weren’t getting enough oxygen so breathing harder/faster would just make up for the oxygen you’re not getting.

this isn’t all that scientific, but I’d say that the work of breathing in a significant asthmatic attack would be too great to sustain hyperventilation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m also having a bad allergy attack, my sinuses are swollen, so that could contribute to me feeling like I can’t get enough air.

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Thinking of relocating to help your respiratory problems?

admin — Sat, 04 Jun 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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I also live in East Tennessee and I agree with you. I believe it is because of the mountains and the continuous weather changes and humidity; I’m sure pollen and mold contribute also. We have some pollution, but not much compared to other areas. It’s beautiful though. I live near Bristol. Where do you live? Kathyw

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On 4 Jun 2005 15:32:48 -0700, "Woody Long" wrote: >Bermuda, a small island in the middle of the Ocean. No heavy industry, >very few cars. HVAC is not needed most of the year as simply opening >the windows provides a comfortable temperature much of the year, and >the ocean breezes will blow out all those new carpet smells. Would >moving there help? In a word, No.

Pollution is a problem there. See http://www.bermuda-online.org/environ.htm Pollution problems with resident population over 3,370 per square mile "Bermuda today is the third most densely populated place on earth" "Pollution has increased. The number of animals with cancer has increased significantly in recent years and was the main front page topic in the local Mid Ocean News newspaper of May 5, 2000. It has also caused severe mutation in and virtual extinction of some other small species of animals once common in Bermuda." http://www.bnt.bm/Environmental_and_Conservation/environmental_platfo… " Atmospheric pollution levels are gradually increasing in Bermuda, a portion of that increase is an unavoidable side effect of our burgeoning population" See http://www-as.harvard.edu/chemistry/trop/oldpictures/may2001.html A lot of surface ozone is blown in from North America.

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We are basically in a valley here (between Smokies and Cumberlands), so a lot of the pollen, mold, and pollution gets trapped here. Pollution is a biggie (Smokies are one of the most frequently visited National Parks–lots of car and natural pollution from them). Very lush and green here–with high pollen and mold counts. Rapidly growing area–lots of construction, road building, etc. Car pollution from the interstates. And I think we get a lot of pollution blowing up from Atlanta, Georgia. In spite of it all, this is one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever lived (along with Hawaii…lol…..)

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I live in East Tennessee–which is one of the worst places to live if you’ve got sinus and asthma problems. Probably the worst place I’ve lived (where my asthma became life-threatening) was Oahu, Hawaii.

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tsr3 wrote: > I live in East Tennessee–which is one of the worst places to live if > you’ve got sinus and asthma problems.

What’s the problem in East Tennessee? Pollution? Pollen? Mold? > Probably the worst place I’ve > lived (where my asthma became life-threatening) was Oahu, Hawaii.

Volcanic ash is Mother Nature’s smog. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

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I’ve always felt that vehicle exhaust is a major cause of health problems, including asthma. Bermuda is overrun and badly congested by motor vehicles. Even though it is an island, the constant fumes are probably behind the increase in health problems. "Woody Long" wrote in message

news:1117924368.551394.26400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com… Bermuda, a small island in the middle of the Ocean. No heavy industry, very few cars. HVAC is not needed most of the year as simply opening the windows provides a comfortable temperature much of the year, and the ocean breezes will blow out all those new carpet smells. Would moving there help? In a word, No. Hamilton, Bermuda, Mar 21 (Prensa Latina) Bermuda health officials say that asthma is reaching epidemic levels on the island, according to a Caribbean Media Corporation (CMC) report. Health professionals have formed a team to counter the asthma, which now affects about one in six of the population. Experts say they are puzzled as to the sudden increase in the cases of asthma here after a decade of decline. The disease, which can kill, affects one in four pre-schoolers and cannot be cured, although the symptoms can be dramatically reduced with careful handling. Registered nurse Liz Boden, founder of Asthma Charity Open Airways, said the disease is reaching epidemic levels in Bermuda. "We have seen a decline in hospital admissions for 10 years now the numbers are rising again. Why? We are not sure. This year we have seen an unusually large number of viruses, which have caused coughing, and wheezing even in people who have never had asthma." "Others who have had their asthma symptoms well controlled for years have been struggling. Many, many people have been visiting the emergency room (of the hospital) with acute asthma episodes," she said. Boden said March, April and May were the worst months in Bermuda for asthma because of the changeable weather and the flowers

ADV-NEWS, Near "The Shoestring Hamburger Stand"…, LA's San Fernando Valley kids try to control their asthma.

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Struggling to breathe Valley kids try to control their asthma By Jennifer Radcliffe Staff Writer Sunday, May 15, 2005 – PACOIMA — Wendy Valenzuela raises six children in a federally subsidized apartment in the East San Fernando Valley, working two part-time jobs to supplement her husband’s income as a house painter. But even on their shoestring budget, the couple scrimped to buy a $1,300 vacuum cleaner and $595 breathing machine to stave off their 5-year-old son’s asthma attacks — fits of coughing and wheezing that have landed Johnny in the emergency room several times. Johnny’s asthma has turned the family’s life upside down. It costs them extra money, keeps them awake at night and forces them to rethink even simple trips. "It affects everything. I don’t sleep at night. I get up every day wondering whether my son will have an asthma attack," Valenzuela said. The family is not alone. Asthma is the most common chronic childhood disease, affecting roughly 6 million U.S. youngsters and costing taxpayers $12.7 billion a year. An estimated 63,000 Los Angeles Unified School District students have asthma — prompting the nation’s second-largest district to create a $400,000-a-year program to try to keep youngsters healthy. Grass-roots efforts paint an even bleaker picture in the East San Fernando Valley. In a pocket of Pacoima, for example, 28 percent of residents report having asthma, and, in a nearby Sun Valley school, about 14 percent of children have been diagnosed. Surrounded by landfills, highways and other pollutants, many of Valenzuela’s East Valley neighbors are plagued by a condition that steals their babies’ breath and can turn their children shades of blue. "We’re the trash can for L.A. County," said Maria Sesma Sooy, outreach consultant for Fernangeles Elementary School in Sun Valley. "This is landfill heaven." While the actual causes of asthma are unknown, studies show that genetics, lung development and the environment can lead to its development. Triggers found in sub-par, overcrowded housing exacerbate the symptoms. "Asthma is an epidemic. We know the (triggers) and we have to eradicate them," said Jim Mangia, CEO of St. John’s Well Child and Family Center in Los Angeles. Even though asthma is a manageable condition, children of the area’s mostly poor and immigrant population usually are not properly diagnosed or treated. They’re also often uninsured or lack access to quality health care, experts said. "Although it is a chronic illness, you can manage it and can have a completely normal life," said Roberta Villanueva, an LAUSD nurse practitioner. "There’s just tons of kids out there that are completely mismanaged." Mismanaged asthma After a few frightening visits to the emergency room, 13-year-old Demi Williams was diagnosed with asthma. Her mother, North Hollywood resident Shari Holiday, left the hospital unsure of what the condition meant and how to help her daughter. "It’s so sad. She was uncomfortable and it seemed like there was nothing we could do," said Holiday, who was staying in a homeless shelter with three of her children. Children in the United States miss more than 10 million days of school a year because of asthma. Disrupted sleep leaves them with poor memory recall, problems concentrating and mood swings. After Demi was flagged for missing too many classes at Sun Valley Middle School, LAUSD’s Villanueva came to Holiday’s dormitory-style room to explain the condition. Holiday also learned that her daughter’s moderate asthma requires two medications — a daily treatment, such as a steroid, to keep the airways from becoming inflamed, and a quick-relief medicine to relax the muscles in an emergency. Only 55 percent of children in California with moderate or severe asthma regularly take the much-needed medicine for maintenance, according to a 2004 study, Children and Asthma in America. It’s among the mounting evidence that many asthma cases are mishandled. Some families — many of whom are poor, uneducated and speak a language other than English — also confuse the medicines or overuse the emergency formula. "These families require a lot more than just ‘here’s a prescription’ and send them out the door," Villanueva said. But because the East Valley is considered "medically underserved," hospitals and clinics are often overcrowded. Caregivers have little time to properly advise patients on how to use the medicines or how to asthma-proof their homes. Others lack current information on the condition or aren’t familiar with modern treatment goals. Some doctors are still reluctant to call it asthma, relying instead on more generic labels like "bronchitis" or "restrictive airway disease," which don’t require the same level of treatment. "There’s some people, because of fear of asthma and what it meant in the past, they don’t want to call it asthma," said Ana Saravia, a pediatrician at the Northeast Valley Health Corp. "People used to die from asthma." Finding triggers When Kevin Ayelan, 10, was diagnosed with asthma, he had to throw out his stuffed animals — sparing only a favorite bunny. The confident, athletic boy, who dreams of being president — or maybe just a lawyer — blames garbage for his asthma. "It’s the dump over there," he said, pointing from his house in Sun Valley. "A lot of people in my school have asthma too because of the dump." On top of throwing out dust-attracting toys, the Ayelans spent $10,000 tearing out their carpet, repainting their house and cutting back flowers in their yard to help calm Kevin’s condition. "The minute we changed everything, he got better," Kevin’s mom, Alma Ayelan said, adding that he’s down to one or two attacks a year. Many families like the Ayelans are at the mercy of social workers who are trying to spread the word about controlling asthma one East Valley house at a time. The workers explain how families can clean their house and change their lifestyles to reduce triggers. Doctors may diagnose the problem, but "they never go to the source and find out what’s causing it," said Liseth Romero-Martinez, director of programs for Pacoima Beautiful. Still, many renters have a tough time convincing their landlords to make even basic repairs, such as fixing leaky plumbing that can cause mold or attract cockroaches. Property owners need to be held responsible for meeting city and state codes. In addition, penalties need to be stiffer for companies that violate air quality laws, especially near schools, advocates said. "Kids need to be protected," said Martha Dina Arguello, director of health and environmental programs for Physicians for Social Responsibility in Los Angeles. The Asthma Collaborative, a collection of 40 groups from across the county, is supporting legislation that would tighten laws and drafting an asthma action plan that will address the area’s growing health problem. But even when asthma is seemingly under control, it still weighs heavily on parents’ minds. Ayelan was initially so concerned about Kevin’s well-being that she decided to study to become a certified nursing assistant and now works at the pediatric unit of All Saint’s Health Care. With her newfound education, she’s confident that Kevin’s asthma will not keep him from being an active little boy who plays sports, swims and studies hard enough in school to become an attorney. "He’s going to get better," she said. "He’s going to have a normal life. We don’t have to be scared all the time." —

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The Cassandra Complex – the ability to know the future but unable to be believed by others and impotent to do anything about it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "12 Monkeys" (1995)

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"Cymbal Man Freq." wrote in message news:Szfie.25427$3b4.10417@twister.nyroc.rr.com… > "12 Monkeys" (1995)

And they never resolve how and why he hears that voice. Beautiful. A troubling, unsettling movie, but well worth the price of admission. Miki

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"12 Monkeys" (1995)

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ADV-NEWS, "There are to be children that could die if they don't have the school nurses." Many of the budget cuts to staff and services will start to take effect today.

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(Buffalo, NY, March 7, 2005) – - It is a new week of change for residents across Erie County. Many of the budget cuts to staff and services will start to take effect Monday. Parents will feel the loss of school nurses who will no longer be in Buffalo schools as of Monday morning. The doors are now shut and locked for good at the Amherst and Orchard Park auto bureaus. A final round of pink slips will go out to county employees whose jobs went on the chopping block, including those from the district attorney’s and comptroller’s office. For parents of Buffalo school children, one hardship is the loss of school nurses. Monday marks the first school day without them. Nancy Rodriguez said, "We’re talking about innocent kids that are put in harm’s way because of this budget. I think it’s a shame. I think it’s appalling, and I think all these parents should step up." Buffalo Teachers Federation President Phil Rumore said, "There are to be children that could die if they don’t have the nurses. They should be our number one priority." Justice Joseph Makowski says residents have no legal standing to stop the county from laying off Buffalo school nurses. Makowski will be hearing more county budget issues later Monday morning in city court.

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Irate motorists causing concerns for county clerk Mar 08, 2005 – NORTH TONAWANDA, N.Y. (AP) -You’ve heard of road rage. How about ‘DMV rage’? That’s what the Niagara County Clerk says he fears now that some of the satellite offices for the Department of Motor Vehicles have closed down in neighboring Erie County. The Buffalo-area is seeing many county services reduced or shut down because of a budget crunch. Erie County has closed two of hits suburban DMV offices and laid off more than 100 workers. That has forced some Erie County residents to head north, where they’re doing their DMV business with Niagara County. The county clerk says disgruntled residents are streaming in the North Tonawanda office just north of Buffalo

Anyone with personal Wound Vac Experiences??

admin — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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I am scheduled to start wound vac therapy next Tuesday. I am an active and otherwise healthy T3 paraplegic with a surgical incision on the thigh/buttock that just won’t heal. Yesterday, after two months of little or no healing, my doc recommended I try the wound vac. He doesn’t know a lot about it, other than he has heard it can significantly speed healing. I dread the thought of being tethered to a buzzing, bulky contraption, but if it will help I think I need to give it a try. I would love to hear from anyone who has experience with this device. Thanks! Dan

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Dan: Good news!! I only needed to be tethered for three weeks. The VAC makes some noise but not a lot… Watch the tubes and cords though – I used twist ties when possible to hold everything together but one night it came undone causing me to break my big toe trying to catch my balance after tripping on the cord… ergh! At least the pain was manageable. Best of luck to you!! Let me know if you have any other questions. — ~Lisa S. Quinn "Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet…."

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am scheduled to start wound vac therapy next Tuesday. I am an active and otherwise healthy T3 paraplegic with a surgical incision on the thigh/buttock that just won’t heal. Yesterday, after two months of little or no healing, my doc recommended I try the wound vac. He doesn’t know a lot about it, other than he has heard it can significantly speed healing. I dread the thought of being tethered to a buzzing, bulky contraption, but if it will help I think I need to give it a try. I would love to hear from anyone who has experience with this device. Thanks! Dan

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I have had my wound vac for a month now. Im getting very depressed. Healing seems to be taking forever. Lisa is right about the tubes tripping you up. It can be hard in the middle of the night to remember them. Dr says it may be another month before Im done. Im still using the black sponges, I guess white is the next step??

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YW. I hope today went well for you. We need to keep our sense of humor about us, as someone once said here, it is sometimes the only sense (or cents) we have left. mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanx so much for the smile – I really needed that!! I Got the "Vac" installed today so I can’t go see Queensryche tonight – whaaaaa! I’ll get over it and I hope that this "slight discomfort" they advertised lessens overnight cuz I would hate to experience more than slight… Anyway, I just wanted to take a sec to say thanx!! More when I feel up to sitting for a while… Take care all and thank you for the nice thoughts!! — ~Lisa S. Quinn "Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet…." Pssst….. Lisa, I found your paddle, Ken and Navid hid it out of your reach, the nerve! LOL mgbio Thanx anyway… I am just so upset this time that I can’t even find the up disease and way beyond tired of having it take away my life in little pieces… Butchers bill for the last 12 months: Severe infection caused acute asthma attack and subsequent heart attack. - No other known causes available… (Missed over a month of work) My daughter chose to live with her dad due to the all around stress of having her mom in and out of the hospital… One and one half month after returning to work at about 80% effective, I notified my superior that I may need additional leave time prior to the end of 2004 for surgery… My employment was terminated two weeks later. Claim with EEOC pending… Mediation probable so the bastards won’t even have to admit what they did… Complete end of this career path and over fifteen years of invested time, energy, and effort – not to mention access to affordable insurance and pension options… My son chose to join my daughter in living with their dad. A total of FOUR hospital admissions, two surgeries and now this!! My sex life has already been obliterated to less than a third of where we used to be just one short year ago not to mention that an open fistula limits most activities anyway… Sometimes I wonder how my husband keeps finding the strength to help me through all of this without loosing it too! Here I am boo hooing when he is still mourning the death of his parents within the same year… Oy Vey! What a mess!! Oy Vey!! I want this to stop! ENOUGH already!! I get it!! I’m sick, I don’t get to have a life!! Ok, message received!! Thank you all for listening. While I know there is nothing that anyone can do, it is nice knowing that there are other people rowing the same boat up the same river… Wait a minute!! Which one of you stole my paddle??? — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet…. No advice, just hugs. mgbio HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!!

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Always!! Rebecca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – GMTA Rebecca mgbio (((((((((((Lisa)))))))))))) Can’t offer any wound information but figured you could at least use a few hugs. Rebecca HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!! — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet….

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Pssst….. Lisa, I found your paddle, Ken and Navid hid it out of your reach, the nerve! LOL mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanx anyway… I am just so upset this time that I can’t even find the up disease and way beyond tired of having it take away my life in little pieces… Butchers bill for the last 12 months: Severe infection caused acute asthma attack and subsequent heart attack. - No other known causes available… (Missed over a month of work) My daughter chose to live with her dad due to the all around stress of having her mom in and out of the hospital… One and one half month after returning to work at about 80% effective, I notified my superior that I may need additional leave time prior to the end of 2004 for surgery… My employment was terminated two weeks later. Claim with EEOC pending… Mediation probable so the bastards won’t even have to admit what they did… Complete end of this career path and over fifteen years of invested time, energy, and effort – not to mention access to affordable insurance and pension options… My son chose to join my daughter in living with their dad. A total of FOUR hospital admissions, two surgeries and now this!! My sex life has already been obliterated to less than a third of where we used to be just one short year ago not to mention that an open fistula limits most activities anyway… Sometimes I wonder how my husband keeps finding the strength to help me through all of this without loosing it too! Here I am boo hooing when he is still mourning the death of his parents within the same year… Oy Vey! What a mess!! Oy Vey!! I want this to stop! ENOUGH already!! I get it!! I’m sick, I don’t get to have a life!! Ok, message received!! Thank you all for listening. While I know there is nothing that anyone can do, it is nice knowing that there are other people rowing the same boat up the same river… Wait a minute!! Which one of you stole my paddle??? — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet…. No advice, just hugs. mgbio HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!!

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Thanx so much for the smile – I really needed that!! I Got the "Vac" installed today so I can’t go see Queensryche tonight – whaaaaa! I’ll get over it and I hope that this "slight discomfort" they advertised lessens overnight cuz I would hate to experience more than slight… Anyway, I just wanted to take a sec to say thanx!! More when I feel up to sitting for a while… Take care all and thank you for the nice thoughts!! — ~Lisa S. Quinn "Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet…." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Pssst….. Lisa, I found your paddle, Ken and Navid hid it out of your reach, the nerve! LOL mgbio Thanx anyway… I am just so upset this time that I can’t even find the up disease and way beyond tired of having it take away my life in little pieces… Butchers bill for the last 12 months: Severe infection caused acute asthma attack and subsequent heart attack. - No other known causes available… (Missed over a month of work) My daughter chose to live with her dad due to the all around stress of having her mom in and out of the hospital… One and one half month after returning to work at about 80% effective, I notified my superior that I may need additional leave time prior to the end of 2004 for surgery… My employment was terminated two weeks later. Claim with EEOC pending… Mediation probable so the bastards won’t even have to admit what they did… Complete end of this career path and over fifteen years of invested time, energy, and effort – not to mention access to affordable insurance and pension options… My son chose to join my daughter in living with their dad. A total of FOUR hospital admissions, two surgeries and now this!! My sex life has already been obliterated to less than a third of where we used to be just one short year ago not to mention that an open fistula limits most activities anyway… Sometimes I wonder how my husband keeps finding the strength to help me through all of this without loosing it too! Here I am boo hooing when he is still mourning the death of his parents within the same year… Oy Vey! What a mess!! Oy Vey!! I want this to stop! ENOUGH already!! I get it!! I’m sick, I don’t get to have a life!! Ok, message received!! Thank you all for listening. While I know there is nothing that anyone can do, it is nice knowing that there are other people rowing the same boat up the same river… Wait a minute!! Which one of you stole my paddle??? — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet…. No advice, just hugs. mgbio HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!!

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GMTA Rebecca mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (((((((((((Lisa)))))))))))) Can’t offer any wound information but figured you could at least use a few hugs. Rebecca HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!! — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet….

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Butchers bill for the last 12 months: Severe infection caused acute asthma attack and subsequent heart attack. - No other known causes available… (Missed over a month of work) My daughter chose to live with her dad due to the all around stress of having her mom in and out of the hospital… One and one half month after returning to work at about 80% effective, I notified my superior that I may need additional leave time prior to the end of 2004 for surgery… My employment was terminated two weeks later. Claim with EEOC pending… Mediation probable so the bastards won’t even have to admit what they did… Complete end of this career path and over fifteen years of invested time, energy, and effort – not to mention access to affordable insurance and pension options… My son chose to join my daughter in living with their dad. A total of FOUR hospital admissions, two surgeries and now this!! My sex life has already been obliterated to less than a third of where we used to be just one short year ago not to mention that an open fistula limits most activities anyway… Sometimes I wonder how my husband keeps finding the strength to help me through all of this without loosing it too! Here I am boo hooing when he is still mourning the death of his parents within the same year… Oy Vey! What a mess!! Oy Vey!! I want this to stop! ENOUGH already!! I get it!! I’m sick, I don’t get to have a life!! Ok, message received!! Thank you all for listening. While I know there is nothing that anyone can do, it is nice knowing that there are other people rowing the same boat up the same river… Wait a minute!! Which one of you stole my paddle??? — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No advice, just hugs. mgbio HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!!

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I had problems years ago. I wasn’t getting well after my op and the redivac jar kept filling up. An Indian doc thought my bladder must have perforated. Eventually they remembered I had been on hydrocortisones and they hadn’t maintained any doseage. Meanwhile I had become delirious. They openend my wound and white pus went everywhere. After a while I got better. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!! — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet….

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No advice, just hugs. mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!!

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HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!! — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet….

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Lisa, I’m not much help in this area I think…. Is it a type of drain? Is it a tube that goes into the wound attached to an accordian like vacume? If it is then, from my experience of putting these into people, it stays in place for as long as there is significant drainage of the wound. That could be a day, a week or (unlikely) more. Rant away, I’m recently off a rant myself and have gleened much useful info from Jeff (of Jeff and Mary) as a result. Take care and stay positive… Nina

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(((((((((((Lisa)))))))))))) Can’t offer any wound information but figured you could at least use a few hugs. Rebecca – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HELP!!! My surgical wound is STILL not healing correctly and the while hydro-therapy is starting to work a little bit, the wound is still healing from the top and NOT the bottom. They are now going to be putting me on this Wound Vacuum machine (tomorrow) which I need to remain connected to at all times. It is "portable" in that it comes with a carrying case with a long over-the-shoulder strap like a small purse but I absolutely abhor the thought of having to give up ONE more thing to this disease!!! Sorry for the rant!! Anyway, does ANYONE have personal experience with this process? Any ideas of just how long I will have to remain on this device? Thanx, in advance!!! — ~Lisa S. Quinn Criticize the words they’re selling – Think for yourself and feel the walls become like sand beneath your feet….

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Smoking

admin — Mon, 09 Aug 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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"Bill in Co." wrote in message news:RqtSc.17661$9Y6.1280@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> JWB wrote: > > "Tony Miller" wrote in message > > news:slrnchkjpa.snp.tony@home.cigardiary.com… > >> Then if this is so harmful, name three people who have second hand smoke > >> listed on their death certificate as the cause of death. > > C’mon Tony, you honestly aren’t dragging out the tired "pro-smoking" > > arguments, are you? > > Going by that logic, drinking bleach is perfectly safe (hey, no death > > certificate will say ‘he drank bleach’), so is drunk driving, so is > > unprotected sex with a person who has aids, etc etc > I guess I can’t argue with Tony anymore. He’s become too irrational for > me, and I hold rationality close to my heart, as you know.

Captain Rationality to the rescue!!

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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:36:23 GMT, JWB – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - wrote: > "Bill in Co." wrote in message > news:RqtSc.17661$9Y6.1280@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net… >> JWB wrote: >> > "Tony Miller" wrote in message >> > news:slrnchkjpa.snp.tony@home.cigardiary.com… >> >> Then if this is so harmful, name three people who have second hand > smoke >> >> listed on their death certificate as the cause of death. >> > C’mon Tony, you honestly aren’t dragging out the tired "pro-smoking" >> > arguments, are you? >> > Going by that logic, drinking bleach is perfectly safe (hey, no death >> > certificate will say ‘he drank bleach’), so is drunk driving, so is >> > unprotected sex with a person who has aids, etc etc >> I guess I can’t argue with Tony anymore. He’s become too irrational for >> me, and I hold rationality close to my heart, as you know. > Captain Rationality to the rescue!!

If he’s been arguing with me, he’s been talking to himself. I’ve had him killfiled for months. -Tony — "If the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence, it’s time to fertilize your lawn!" Want to jump start your marriage? Consider a Marriage Encounter weekend. Check out http://www.wwme.org for more information.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tony Miller wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:36:23 GMT, JWB > wrote: >> "Bill in Co." wrote in message >> news:RqtSc.17661$9Y6.1280@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net… >>> JWB wrote: >>>> "Tony Miller" wrote in message >>>> news:slrnchkjpa.snp.tony@home.cigardiary.com… >>>>> Then if this is so harmful, name three people who have second hand smoke >>>>> listed on their death certificate as the cause of death. >>>> C’mon Tony, you honestly aren’t dragging out the tired "pro-smoking" >>>> arguments, are you? >>>> Going by that logic, drinking bleach is perfectly safe (hey, no death >>>> certificate will say ‘he drank bleach’), so is drunk driving, so is >>>> unprotected sex with a person who has aids, etc etc >>> I guess I can’t argue with Tony anymore. He’s become too irrational for >>> me, and I hold rationality close to my heart, as you know. >> Captain Rationality to the rescue!! > If he’s been arguing with me, he’s been talking to himself. I’ve had him > killfiled for months.

I’m not arguing with you, as there is no point, Tony. (It’s like talking to a brick wall). But unlike you, I don’t need to rely on a crutch to protect my sanity! But then again, "I grew up in the Bronx" (well, not really, but..), and don’t need such protection.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tony Miller wrote in message … > On 11 Aug 2004 11:03:30 -0700, Caren > wrote: > > Tony Miller wrote in message … > >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:20:04 +1000, Doug Laidlaw > >> wrote: > >> > A man wrote: > >> >> Having a no smoking section in a restaurant is like having a no peeing > >> >> section in a pool. > >> > That comment is too puerile to comment on. Peeing doesn’t kill people. > >> Neither does second hand smoke. > >> -Tony > > And not wearing seatbelts doesn’t save lives. > > > "Setting the Record Straight: Secondhand Smoke is a Preventable > > Health Risk" > > You can order this publication by phone, fax, e-mail, and online. > > Find out how to order this and any EPA publication > Name 3 people who have died of second hand smoke related disease. > > > *************************************************************************** **** > > I’m sure you’ll dispute it, but as I see it, it’s indisputable. The > > facts are out and you can ignore them and deny that second hand smoke > > does damage or you can listen to facts. It’s quite easy to find > > information about the damage, even I found it in 2 seconds. > Of course you will find it. The smoke nannies are legion. The folks who > just want to be left alone are few. Repeating the same lies over and over > again in multiple websites does not make it true. > ## > "The fact is, there have been 40 epidemiological studies of second-hand > smoke, almost all of them based on the experience of non-smokers married > to smokers. Thirty-two of them found no evidence of second-hand smoke > causing any disease at all. The other eight showed "weak association"–but > in some of the studies there was actually a negative result, indicating > that non-smoking spouses of smokers are less likely to get a serious > disease." > http://www.joebobbriggs.com/specialreports/20020816.html > ## > This is not science. This is politics. > ## > "The second-hand smoke scare is a political farce. It was invented in the > mid-nineties by the Clinton administration–it has Hillary’s hands all > over it–because anti-smoking radicals, who tend to be like anti-abortion > radicals in their zealous devotion to the cause, actually convinced the > Environmental Protection Agency to change its "conventional standard for > statistical significance" so that second-hand smoke could be proven to be > a killer." > http://www.joebobbriggs.com/specialreports/20020816.html > ## > The books were cooked. > -Tony > PS: If you were REALLY concerned about people’s health, you’d be > advocating the banning of automobiles. But that would gore your own ox, > wouldn’t it. Much better to attack those people who do something you > don’t like to do.

I drive a small car and make as few trips as possible and carpool whenever possible. I save up as many errands to do in one trip. I do my share of trying not to pollute the environment. I rarely fill up our trash can, due to extensive recycling and using our worm bin for food. We don’t have air conditioning and I rarely use our dishwasher. My kids are major recyclers as a result. My son drives small car too. I do more what I can and clearly more than most of my neighbors who can’t be bothered by recycling. They just bought a new SUV though and guess what? They both smoke. But they both smoke outside so that they don’t smell up their house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go figure I smell it come into my house so that their house doesn’t have to smell. Ahhhhh, whatver happened to consideration!!! Back in my day, oh wait, that’s Bill’s job. You can’t be serious that you are supportive of smoke Tony. Did or do you smoke in your house when your girls were little or now that they’re older? Would you mind if they came to you and told you that they smoke cigarettes? would you be supportive? How about if they’re pregnant and smoking…or parenting and smoking? All that’s okay with you? I think you’re just trying to yank all of our chains. You are actually a little funny Here ya go honey: BE Aware and Beware Short-term consequences to exposure to second-hand smoke. Toxins in the Air Every year, approximately 110 non-smokers in B.C. die from diseases brought on by second-hand smoke (sometimes called environmental tobacco smoke or "ETS"). Thousands more become sick. Second-hand smoke consists of mainstream smoke, the smoke inhaled and exhaled by the smoker, and side stream smoke, the smoke released directly from the end of a burning cigarette. Smoke does a lot of damage

I'm here for you Chloe!

admin — Tue, 18 May 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:53:04 -0700, the world was enlightented by Carl Propst, unto whom the words are attributed: > Yes, after I submitted my last post, I realized I forgot to answer > Chloe’s question about Farscape. It was a TV series on the SCI FI > Channel in the United States. Commander John Creighton gets shot

Well, glad I know more of how it starts – I missed the first couple of episodes. So it’s a US series, not Brit or Aussie as I thought, then? Monster — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster (r…@localhost.localdomain) writes: > On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:23:11 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore > Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: >> Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, >> but I think I never heard of it:? > British space opera (though now I think about it, could be Aussie) – guy > get’s washed up in a living space ship with a bunch of alien refugees > after falling through a wormhole while piloting an experimental craft – > they all go wizzing off all over space running from super-bad guys, gets > chip implanted in brain by super-bad guys, who use it to follow them > everywhere, meet lots of different alien characters, add some to crew > ship. Watched it avidly for many episodes, missed a few and then last I > saw was only about 30 seconds of an episode where guy had top of his skull > cut off and a plastic dome there, super bad-guy in chief gloating very > gloatingly. Don’t know any after that. Anyone want to fill me in? It was > pretty good, though.

Odd I never ehard of it. Must have been in the decade I coudl not even follow anything, the rbain flyign in all directions… C > > Mosnter > — > I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy > All the girls love me > And I will never grow Ooollldd > I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! > http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Little Monster wrote in message … > On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:23:11 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore > Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: > > Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, > > but I think I never heard of it:? > British space opera (though now I think about it, could be Aussie) – guy > get’s washed up in a living space ship with a bunch of alien refugees > after falling through a wormhole while piloting an experimental craft – > they all go wizzing off all over space running from super-bad guys, gets > chip implanted in brain by super-bad guys, who use it to follow them > everywhere, meet lots of different alien characters, add some to crew > ship. Watched it avidly for many episodes, missed a few and then last I > saw was only about 30 seconds of an episode where guy had top of his skull > cut off and a plastic dome there, super bad-guy in chief gloating very > gloatingly. Don’t know any after that. Anyone want to fill me in? It was > pretty good, though. > Mosnter

Yes, after I submitted my last post, I realized I forgot to answer Chloe’s question about Farscape. It was a TV series on the SCI FI Channel in the United States. Commander John Creighton gets shot through a wormhole while conducting experiments about wormholes. His craft is named Farscape. His ship accidentally strikes an alien ship and destroys it. The ship is commanded by the brother of Creis who seeks revenge for the death of his brother. Creighton is pulled into the living ship "Moya" which carries escaped prisoners aboard. That’s how the series began. The plot continues where Creighton is looking for a way home. Others learn of his wormhole technology and literally gets into his head for information. This is done by "Scorpius". There are numerous other characters that end up on "Moya" and come and go. I haven’t watched all the episodes myself. I’m just now starting to become interested in Farscape. There is a fan club following that wants to bring back the series on the SCI FI Channel here in the states. Carl

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On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:23:11 +0000, the world was enlightented by Eleonore Beaudoin, unto whom the words are attributed: > Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, > but I think I never heard of it:?

British space opera (though now I think about it, could be Aussie) – guy get’s washed up in a living space ship with a bunch of alien refugees after falling through a wormhole while piloting an experimental craft – they all go wizzing off all over space running from super-bad guys, gets chip implanted in brain by super-bad guys, who use it to follow them everywhere, meet lots of different alien characters, add some to crew ship. Watched it avidly for many episodes, missed a few and then last I saw was only about 30 seconds of an episode where guy had top of his skull cut off and a plastic dome there, super bad-guy in chief gloating very gloatingly. Don’t know any after that. Anyone want to fill me in? It was pretty good, though. Mosnter — I am the sexiest man in the UuuuKaaaayy All the girls love me And I will never grow Ooollldd I am the sexiest man in the UuuKaaaay! http://www.the-monstruum.co.uk

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Hi Carl! I am falling asleep by the second tonight…..Ad I donlt want to asnwer you with my sleepy brain on again, nah! So will try and do later, after I get some shut eye….’K? Later, Chloe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: > bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in message … >> Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: >> > I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try >> > to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did >> > wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things >> > together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a >> > few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be >> > done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, >> > hurt, and other painful emotions. >> Yeah…Complicated stuff. >> I smetimes think the other wants to give it a year break as he does >> sporadically with friends. However, I’m an odd one. Things unresolved of >> *that* nature leave me with …things unresolved of that nature. >> There was a year break in the past for soemthign other but yet similar. >> And while I thought he ahd resolved that one episode during four of the >> five eyars, the fifth made me see more and more things tagged on me that >> stemmed from the first tag of years ago. >> From seing me a certain way in his mind, he built more and more around it, >> until it was less and less me anymore he exchange with. >> I shoudl have listened to ntuition and just make myself more rare at the >> time where obviously he lived things outside the friendship that affected >> his judgement by affecting his emotions….An iffy relating with a female >> friend of his, namely, creating ups and downs and tensions in him that >> woudl end up splattered on me. And through that again, he went on building >> and building and building, like a brain washed one. >> Try as one may, the word that try will be read through the filter and >> moods related to the outside stuff affecting the other, and well, yeah, it >> gets to be useless… >> > At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having >> > bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just >> > gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love >> > very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced >> > me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of >> > this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 >> > disaster which severely affected any work with computers. >> Hm. all those events that coincided makes one wonder if you were wrongly >> diagnosed? I mean, with all that happeneing to me at once, I;d be >> diagnozed much worse stuff I am sure!! That is a LOT to face all at once… >> > I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I >> > believe I am around your age. >> Did the asthma start about that time or was it there before? >> I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. >> When in September? I am the nineth. >> My >> > hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI >> > FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits >> > from the 1960’s. >> I used to watch the outer limits as a kid, but then…forgot all of it. I >> sometimes now catch a remake episode or one of the old ones, as I switch >> tv channels to find something…. >> Can’t say I know it well though. >> Stargate even less, if I saw the movie of course. >> Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, >> but I think I never heard of it:? >> I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her >> > movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" >> > in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never >> > able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. >> > She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance >> > drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There >> > were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. >> > However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was >> > more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could >> > not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive >> > as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to >> > Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I >> > believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting >> > being a mother now. >> I tjink I never saw dirty dancing, or caught a part of it only, maybe, as >> rings a very faint bell, if the name of it of course stayed. >> But I coudl not remember a thing of it for the life of me. Sorry, bad >> memory with stories of movies and books….:( on top of the title. All >> that remains is the feelign I lived as I watched or read them…which can >> have nothign to do with the movie or book itself. >> Eg: Dirty dancing. I thik it was raining that day…I was bored and >> switching statiosn to find somethign to watch and fell on soemthign I >> watched caught in the middle. At the end I caught it had been dirty >> dancing. But what was in it? Not one clue… >> Must be nice to have some actress/actor one is fond of and follows this way… >> I never really had a favorite actor, if I for a whiel thougyht I woudl in >> Harrisson Ford. But he lost his aura when he started his midlife crisis a >> la so childish, leavign his wife and tryign desperately to look and sound >> 20ish…The sort of innocence image he ahd took a dive…The "mystic" was >> broken. The lil carpenter he managed to be remembered he had been suddenly >> was a holliwood star like so mnay others… >> Posh life, fast lane and gosip papers front page with a young babe… >> Some men really make fools of themself when image was all they lived by >> until they started losing the looks. >> To hear him talk about another Indiana Jones with him in it in interviews >> feels odd….Almost feels sad. >> But what do I know. Maybe he endured a witchy wife for decades. >> Just the same…What can I say, he lost his interest, and feel right in >> with many others of the Holliwood kind… >> Eeek! 7:21!! Must hit the shower soon, 20 mins ago!! >> Have a great day, Carl, and catch ya later, >> Chloe >> > Carl >> Hi Chloe, My birthday is September 24th. So we were born pretty > close together. I don’t know about the age part though. About the > bipolar disorder, previously I was diagnosed with just depression. I > was treated for that and then I would then swing to being mania. I > have heard that it takes many years to come up with the proper > diagnosis. Once you treat depression, then the mania may surface. > Which of course, happened to me. Just something that I live with. I am > being treated for it and I’m much better than I was almost 3 years > ago. > I know what you mean about actors and actresses wanting to stay in the > limelight. Take Jennifer Grey for example. The reason she got the nose > job was because she has a Jewish nose. She wanted to change her plain > appearance (in her eyes) and become more Hollywood. Unfortunately, > that plan failed. I do have pictures of her before and after her > operation and she is still very attractive I believe. > Carl

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I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, hurt, and other painful emotions. At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 disaster which severely affected any work with computers. I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I believe I am around your age. I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. My hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits from the 1960’s. I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting being a mother now. Carl

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In article , carlp…@sbcglobal.net says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try >to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did >wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things >together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a >few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be >done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, >hurt, and other painful emotions. >At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having >bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just >gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love >very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced >me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of >this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 >disaster which severely affected any work with computers. >I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I >believe I am around your age. I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. My >hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI >FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits >from the 1960’s. I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her >movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" >in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never >able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. >She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance >drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There >were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. >However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was >more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could >not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive >as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to >Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I >believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting >being a mother now. >Carl

For asthma – try Oralmat, which is a herbal asthma treatment, from ryegrass? Some people have had great results with it. It was in the news – via Australia, maybe it’s available in your drugstore? Harvey

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in message … > Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: > > I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try > > to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did > > wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things > > together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a > > few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be > > done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, > > hurt, and other painful emotions. > Yeah…Complicated stuff. > I smetimes think the other wants to give it a year break as he does > sporadically with friends. However, I’m an odd one. Things unresolved of > *that* nature leave me with …things unresolved of that nature. > There was a year break in the past for soemthign other but yet similar. > And while I thought he ahd resolved that one episode during four of the > five eyars, the fifth made me see more and more things tagged on me that > stemmed from the first tag of years ago. > From seing me a certain way in his mind, he built more and more around it, > until it was less and less me anymore he exchange with. > I shoudl have listened to ntuition and just make myself more rare at the > time where obviously he lived things outside the friendship that affected > his judgement by affecting his emotions….An iffy relating with a female > friend of his, namely, creating ups and downs and tensions in him that > woudl end up splattered on me. And through that again, he went on building > and building and building, like a brain washed one. > Try as one may, the word that try will be read through the filter and > moods related to the outside stuff affecting the other, and well, yeah, it > gets to be useless… > > At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having > > bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just > > gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love > > very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced > > me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of > > this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 > > disaster which severely affected any work with computers. > Hm. all those events that coincided makes one wonder if you were wrongly > diagnosed? I mean, with all that happeneing to me at once, I;d be > diagnozed much worse stuff I am sure!! That is a LOT to face all at once… > > I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I > > believe I am around your age. > Did the asthma start about that time or was it there before? > I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. > When in September? I am the nineth. > My > > hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI > > FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits > > from the 1960’s. > I used to watch the outer limits as a kid, but then…forgot all of it. I > sometimes now catch a remake episode or one of the old ones, as I switch > tv channels to find something…. > Can’t say I know it well though. > Stargate even less, if I saw the movie of course. > Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, > but I think I never heard of it:? > I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her > > movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" > > in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never > > able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. > > She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance > > drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There > > were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. > > However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was > > more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could > > not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive > > as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to > > Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I > > believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting > > being a mother now. > I tjink I never saw dirty dancing, or caught a part of it only, maybe, as > rings a very faint bell, if the name of it of course stayed. > But I coudl not remember a thing of it for the life of me. Sorry, bad > memory with stories of movies and books….:( on top of the title. All > that remains is the feelign I lived as I watched or read them…which can > have nothign to do with the movie or book itself. > Eg: Dirty dancing. I thik it was raining that day…I was bored and > switching statiosn to find somethign to watch and fell on soemthign I > watched caught in the middle. At the end I caught it had been dirty > dancing. But what was in it? Not one clue… > Must be nice to have some actress/actor one is fond of and follows this way… > I never really had a favorite actor, if I for a whiel thougyht I woudl in > Harrisson Ford. But he lost his aura when he started his midlife crisis a > la so childish, leavign his wife and tryign desperately to look and sound > 20ish…The sort of innocence image he ahd took a dive…The "mystic" was > broken. The lil carpenter he managed to be remembered he had been suddenly > was a holliwood star like so mnay others… > Posh life, fast lane and gosip papers front page with a young babe… > Some men really make fools of themself when image was all they lived by > until they started losing the looks. > To hear him talk about another Indiana Jones with him in it in interviews > feels odd….Almost feels sad. > But what do I know. Maybe he endured a witchy wife for decades. > Just the same…What can I say, he lost his interest, and feel right in > with many others of the Holliwood kind… > Eeek! 7:21!! Must hit the shower soon, 20 mins ago!! > Have a great day, Carl, and catch ya later, > Chloe > > Carl > Hi Chloe, My birthday is September 24th. So we were born pretty

close together. I don’t know about the age part though. About the bipolar disorder, previously I was diagnosed with just depression. I was treated for that and then I would then swing to being mania. I have heard that it takes many years to come up with the proper diagnosis. Once you treat depression, then the mania may surface. Which of course, happened to me. Just something that I live with. I am being treated for it and I’m much better than I was almost 3 years ago. I know what you mean about actors and actresses wanting to stay in the limelight. Take Jennifer Grey for example. The reason she got the nose job was because she has a Jewish nose. She wanted to change her plain appearance (in her eyes) and become more Hollywood. Unfortunately, that plan failed. I do have pictures of her before and after her operation and she is still very attractive I believe. Carl

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Carl Propst (carlp…@sbcglobal.net) writes: > I know what you mean about friendships and how they go sour. You try > to figure it all out and wonder if there was something that you did > wrong to cause all that. And then you want to try and patch things > together. Sometimes it works for awhile. After you have done this a > few times, then you come to the realization that nothing more can be > done. And then you go through sadness, the grieving process, anger, > hurt, and other painful emotions.

Yeah…Complicated stuff. I smetimes think the other wants to give it a year break as he does sporadically with friends. However, I’m an odd one. Things unresolved of *that* nature leave me with …things unresolved of that nature. There was a year break in the past for soemthign other but yet similar. And while I thought he ahd resolved that one episode during four of the five eyars, the fifth made me see more and more things tagged on me that stemmed from the first tag of years ago. From seing me a certain way in his mind, he built more and more around it, until it was less and less me anymore he exchange with. I shoudl have listened to ntuition and just make myself more rare at the time where obviously he lived things outside the friendship that affected his judgement by affecting his emotions….An iffy relating with a female friend of his, namely, creating ups and downs and tensions in him that woudl end up splattered on me. And through that again, he went on building and building and building, like a brain washed one. Try as one may, the word that try will be read through the filter and moods related to the outside stuff affecting the other, and well, yeah, it gets to be useless… > > At the time of your decloaking post, I was just diagnosed as having > bipolar disorder. Not a very good time in my life then. I had just > gotten over a divorce and missed having my two daughters that I love > very much. They live with their Mom. And high support payments forced > me to move in with my parents and still live with them. On top of > this, I had lost my job in the computer field after the 9/11 2001 > disaster which severely affected any work with computers.

Hm. all those events that coincided makes one wonder if you were wrongly diagnosed? I mean, with all that happeneing to me at once, I;d be diagnozed much worse stuff I am sure!! That is a LOT to face all at once… > > I’m now on disability for bipolar disorder along with severe asthma. I > believe I am around your age.

Did the asthma start about that time or was it there before? I am 43. Approaching 44 in September. When in September? I am the nineth. My > hobbies are computers of course. Also I have been collecting DVD SCI > FI TV series such as Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and the Outer Limits > from the 1960’s.

I used to watch the outer limits as a kid, but then…forgot all of it. I sometimes now catch a remake episode or one of the old ones, as I switch tv channels to find something…. Can’t say I know it well though. Stargate even less, if I saw the movie of course. Farscape? Does not ring a bell….Maybe just the title of it looses me, but I think I never heard of it:? I am a fan of Jennifer Grey. I have many of her > movies as a young actress. Her big hit of course was "Dirty Dancing" > in 1987. However, after that, her career went downhill. She was never > able to get good acting roles and had to take parts in small movies. > She underwent nose surgery in 1992 that changed her facial appearance > drastically. Even her closest friends did not recognize her. There > were two operations. The first one was to do a minor nose job. > However, a collapsed cartillage forced a second operation that was > more extensive. When she woke up and the bandages removed, she could > not recognize herself. Even so, I still think she is very attractive > as she is only 6 months older than me. But she is taken and married to > Clark Gregg. They have a daughter that is around 3 years old I > believe. So I don’t think that she will be doing that much more acting > being a mother now.

I tjink I never saw dirty dancing, or caught a part of it only, maybe, as rings a very faint bell, if the name of it of course stayed. But I coudl not remember a thing of it for the life of me. Sorry, bad memory with stories of movies and books….:( on top of the title. All that remains is the feelign I lived as I watched or read them…which can have nothign to do with the movie or book itself. Eg: Dirty dancing. I thik it was raining that day…I was bored and switching statiosn to find somethign to watch and fell on soemthign I watched caught in the middle. At the end I caught it had been dirty dancing. But what was in it? Not one clue… Must be nice to have some actress/actor one is fond of and follows this way… I never really had a favorite actor, if I for a whiel thougyht I woudl in Harrisson Ford. But he lost his aura when he started his midlife crisis a la so childish, leavign his wife and tryign desperately to look and sound 20ish…The sort of innocence image he ahd took a dive…The "mystic" was broken. The lil carpenter he managed to be remembered he had been suddenly was a holliwood star like so mnay others… Posh life, fast lane and gosip papers front page with a young babe… Some men really make fools of themself when image was all they lived by until they started losing the looks. To hear him talk about another Indiana Jones with him in it in interviews feels odd….Almost feels sad. But what do I know. Maybe he endured a witchy wife for decades. Just the same…What can I say, he lost his interest, and feel right in with many others of the Holliwood kind… Eeek! 7:21!! Must hit the shower soon, 20 mins ago!! Have a great day, Carl, and catch ya later, Chloe > > Carl

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Grace Casselman wrote: > Heh. Did I mention that I’m hyped up on prednisone (40 mg, from none — a > treatment for an asthma attack)? We’ll look at tapering off at my appt. Wed. > "If it’s not working, you’ll come off more quickly." > And my inlaws are here. > And it’s 2 a.m. > I’m prednisone-manic. > > G. > p.s. I was horrified to hear they were trying prednisone; all-the-while the > addict in me was going "yes, yes, give me the drugs…." > p.p.s. I’m eating, eating — because I want to, because I can — I want to > weigh in at 100 pounds Wednesday…. (I never thought I’d be here… I’m back > to a childhood weight)

Eat then get to bed ..that’s an order OR how to gain weight the easy way. Hugs Grace, I just woke up and you’re not even in bed? Yikes pred-manic is right. J

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Grace Casselman wrote: > Hi guys: > First, I did an interview for the local daily paper this week, about A > Hole in the Hedge, the shortlisting, being a Big Sister…. They also > interviewed my Little Sister; and we’re supposed to get photographed > Monday. > A city TV news program has booked a 4-minute interview with me on June > 1. Aiiieee. I expressed my concern about a live coughing fit. They > agreed to tape it ahead of time, which makes me more comfortable. > Assuming my breathing/coughing doesn’t get so bad I can’t talk (that > happens!) > Best yet, my publisher is going to publish A Walk in the Park, sequel to > A Hole in the Hedge. (Don’t rush out to buy it… it’s a long process!) > Book 3 will be about a teen who’s suddenly struck with Lupus….so we’ll > talk…. > ….and talk…. > Grace. > p.s. I see my rheumatologist Monday. My lungs are terrible, but we’re > going with that NOT being rheumatological… so it will be interesting > what he thinks of my Lupus post-transplant. I think the conservative > answer is I’m in remission and we’ll see….anyhow, I’ll tell you what > he ACTUALLY says. > I see the cancer doctor on Wed., re. my MRI, and lungs….I see the lung > specialist at the end of the month….but the cancer doctor pages > him…and they talk….

Busy gal, get some rest in between the fun. Hope all goes well with the doctor appointments. Hugs J

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Congratulations Grace! You are our star! Let us know what to look out for to find your interviews re papers and tv channel….. BC is different than Alta. I believe? Keep us updated on those doc appts. too! Good luck with everything! hugs from Shelagh – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Grace Casselman" wrote in message > Hi guys: > First, I did an interview for the local daily paper this week, about A > Hole in the Hedge, the shortlisting, being a Big Sister…. They also > interviewed my Little Sister; and we’re supposed to get photographed > Monday. > A city TV news program has booked a 4-minute interview with me on June > 1. Aiiieee. I expressed my concern about a live coughing fit. They > agreed to tape it ahead of time, which makes me more comfortable. > Assuming my breathing/coughing doesn’t get so bad I can’t talk (that > happens!) > Best yet, my publisher is going to publish A Walk in the Park, sequel to > A Hole in the Hedge. (Don’t rush out to buy it… it’s a long process!) > Book 3 will be about a teen who’s suddenly struck with Lupus….so we’ll > talk…. ….and talk…. > Grace. > p.s. I see my rheumatologist Monday. My lungs are terrible, but we’re > going with that NOT being rheumatological… so it will be interesting > what he thinks of my Lupus post-transplant. I think the conservative > answer is I’m in remission and we’ll see….anyhow, I’ll tell you what > he ACTUALLY says. > I see the cancer doctor on Wed., re. my MRI, and lungs….I see the lung > specialist at the end of the month….but the cancer doctor pages > him…and they talk….

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Hi guys: First, I did an interview for the local daily paper this week, about A Hole in the Hedge, the shortlisting, being a Big Sister…. They also interviewed my Little Sister; and we’re supposed to get photographed Monday. A city TV news program has booked a 4-minute interview with me on June 1. Aiiieee. I expressed my concern about a live coughing fit. They agreed to tape it ahead of time, which makes me more comfortable. Assuming my breathing/coughing doesn’t get so bad I can’t talk (that happens!) Best yet, my publisher is going to publish A Walk in the Park, sequel to A Hole in the Hedge. (Don’t rush out to buy it… it’s a long process!) Book 3 will be about a teen who’s suddenly struck with Lupus….so we’ll talk…. ….and talk…. Grace. p.s. I see my rheumatologist Monday. My lungs are terrible, but we’re going with that NOT being rheumatological… so it will be interesting what he thinks of my Lupus post-transplant. I think the conservative answer is I’m in remission and we’ll see….anyhow, I’ll tell you what he ACTUALLY says. I see the cancer doctor on Wed., re. my MRI, and lungs….I see the lung specialist at the end of the month….but the cancer doctor pages him…and they talk….